Spider Elk?

Dude invested $170,000 into that hunt?
 
Sheesh.
 

I have hunted fully guided, drop camp, and hunt on your own many times over the years and will have to agree with Silvers post. My best success has come from the drop camps where the outfitter packed us in and out, had us set up with a tent and cots and we hunted strictly on our own. It becomes a bit boring for an experienced hunter trailing behind a guide all day long.

just goes to show us what money can buy..my oppinion is,the elk was farm raised.........my friend raises deer and recently sold one of his bigger bucks to a game farm for $5000.00.(later scored in the 190,s non typ b &c).the "hunter" payed 50,000 bucks for the hunt.flew in on a chopper,and in less than an hour was back on the chopper after shooting that deer.not much sport there.i cant say for sure that this was the case with the elk,but it sure looks odd to me...wonder if anyone saw the elk before the hunter shot it?

ORIGINAL: Colburn

How could someone look at that amazing animal and think to themselves, I am going to shoot this and kill this creature so I can hang it on my wall.  Some animals should not be shot for "game."  And paying a bunch of people to scout out this amazing elk so all he had to do was walk a little ways with an outrageous gun point and shoot.  What a bastard.  Where's the hunt?  I would be ashamed to hang this animal on my wall.  This isn't f-ing art.  I am not against hunting.  This guy should be shot.  That elk was a much better then that pathetic wuss.

You should tell me how you really feel.

I'm not a hunter...I fish.  My grandpa brought me up fishing and I never really thought about hunting, don't have a gun either, he also taught me about respect for all types of life.  I would go fish in an area that would be known to have a greater population of large fish.  I wouldn't, on the other hand, pay money to fish in a swimming pool for large fish that someone else has caught, or "farm rasied."  Where is the adventure to that???  It is the same thing.  Someone has done the work in finding the species, and all you have to do is catch it or in this case, shoot it.  That just sounds really stupid to me.  I spent a lot of money towards fishing, no where close to 170000 or anything, but just on equipment, I still had to go and find the fish.  Sometimes I get skunked, oh well, sometimes I score like no other.  Both ways still make you feel good because I learned something on each trip, what to do and what not to do, where to go and where not to go.  All that pansey learned is how to write a check, and that good sirs makes him a wuss.

ORIGINAL: Colburn

I'm not a hunter...I fish.  My grandpa brought me up fishing and I never really thought about hunting, don't have a gun either, he also taught me about respect for all types of life.  I would go fish in an area that would be known to have a greater population of large fish.  I wouldn't, on the other hand, pay money to fish in a swimming pool for large fish that someone else has caught, or "farm rasied."  Where is the adventure to that???  It is the same thing.  Someone has done the work in finding the species, and all you have to do is catch it or in this case, shoot it.  That just sounds really stupid to me.  I spent a lot of money towards fishing, no where close to 170000 or anything, but just on equipment, I still had to go and find the fish.  Sometimes I get skunked, oh well, sometimes I score like no other.  Both ways still make you feel good because I learned something on each trip, what to do and what not to do, where to go and where not to go.  All that pansey learned is how to write a check, and that good sirs makes him a wuss.

 
If you fish for Erie Steelhead or other PA stocked trout you are fishing for farm raised fish.  Your license and stamp is the fee for raising and stocking them.

ORIGINAL: duncsdad

ORIGINAL: Colburn

I'm not a hunter...I fish.  My grandpa brought me up fishing and I never really thought about hunting, don't have a gun either, he also taught me about respect for all types of life.  I would go fish in an area that would be known to have a greater population of large fish.  I wouldn't, on the other hand, pay money to fish in a swimming pool for large fish that someone else has caught, or "farm rasied."  Where is the adventure to that???  It is the same thing.  Someone has done the work in finding the species, and all you have to do is catch it or in this case, shoot it.  That just sounds really stupid to me.  I spent a lot of money towards fishing, no where close to 170000 or anything, but just on equipment, I still had to go and find the fish.  Sometimes I get skunked, oh well, sometimes I score like no other.  Both ways still make you feel good because I learned something on each trip, what to do and what not to do, where to go and where not to go.  All that pansey learned is how to write a check, and that good sirs makes him a wuss.

If you fish for Erie Steelhead or other PA stocked trout you are fishing for farm raised fish.  Your license and stamp is the fee for raising and stocking them.

Duncsdad,yes they were raised in a "farm" to smolt size,but then they are released into the wild to fend for themselves and swim free for a couple years before we play with them there is a difference.Talking about Steel not pelletheads.
So called "hunting preserves" are a joke,where is there any "sport" in killing a farm raised animal in a fenced area.
 
 

Maybe I didn't notice, but I never saw anywhere in the article that said he shot that elk on a preserve or that it had been raised on a farm.  What I got out of it was that, because the guy put out a ridiculous amount of cash, he was given access to some exclusive property and allowed to use a superior firearm.  The reason the spider bull got to the size it did was because it lived in an area of light hunting pressure, where (presumably) only primitive weapons were allowed.  If any schlub had drawn a tag for that area and shot that bull with the weapons prescribed for that area, I wouldn't have the slightest problem with it.  If I was the hunter, I would be happy that I'd shot such an exceptional animal, but I would also realize that it was my money that got me that opportunity, not any great hunting feat on my part.  Hell, you put out 170 grr, you aint going home with a raghorn!  But, at the same time, if I had it entered for a world record, I'd expect an asterisk to be put beside my name, like Bonds home run record (should be).