Diamondglass rods

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2007/07/02 18:14:17 (permalink)

Diamondglass rods

Anyone own a diamondback diamondglass rod?
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    beerman
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    RE: Diamondglass rods 2007/07/02 22:17:25 (permalink)
    I never knew about this model until I Googled it. 

    http://www.troutbound.com/mods/prodView.asp?idproduct=379

    $300, what is the advantage of fiberglass over graphite?
    post edited by beerman - 2007/07/03 08:38:20

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    thedrake
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    RE: Diamondglass rods 2007/07/02 23:39:50 (permalink)
    I think fiberglass is a good material to make a short soft action small stream rods. Most manufacturers gave up on glass and bamboo with the idea that graphite is superior in all ways. This is not entirely true. I realized this recently when fishing an old 6.5' 4wt that a friend of mine found in the basement of a house he just bought. This rod fished so well, I decided to buy a glass rod of my own. After casting the 7' 3wt diamondglass, I decided it was hard to beat for a small stream rod.
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    RE: Diamondglass rods 2007/07/03 17:25:54 (permalink)
    Drake,
        You are very correct.  Also, glass rods are more expensive to make.  (true)  Glass can be a little more forgiving than graphite and easier to maintain.  My favorite rod is a 8.5 foot 6 weight Shakespeare Presidential.  It is a dream.  Graphite may be lighter, and cast farther but I like the touch of Glass.  But then I also love to fish bamboo for it's slower, softer feel.   The diamondglass rods appear to be a VERY nice rod with a moderate feel and quality construction throughout.
          Also glass will take more abuse than graphite, from trees and rocks and the trunk or cars.   I believe graphite has become so popular due to it's cost and the fact that it is the latest shiny thing that has come down the pipe. It is superior to other materials in weight and tensile strength though.

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    RE: Diamondglass rods 2007/07/29 17:26:05 (permalink)
    I just put one on hold that I'm going to buy.  It's a 7'6" 3wt. that I caught on sale, like big time sale.  I will write a post to tell you how I like it once I get it.  From what I can tell it is very smooth and has a nice progressive action.  I'm going to use it on "smallish", like under 30ft, streams.  Like I said, I'll have more to write about once I fish with it. 
     
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    RE: Diamondglass rods 2007/07/29 20:25:49 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: mgolf92

    I just put one on hold that I'm going to buy.  It's a 7'6" 3wt. that I caught on sale, like big time sale.  I will write a post to tell you how I like it once I get it.  From what I can tell it is very smooth and has a nice progressive action.  I'm going to use it on "smallish", like under 30ft, streams.  Like I said, I'll have more to write about once I fish with it. 

    Mike

     
    I bought the 7' 3wt, and must say its the best small stream rod I have ever fished. Even turns over 12' 7x leaders with no problem. Put a teton classic on it with a trangle taper line. It didnt want to cast a DT very well.
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    RE: Diamondglass rods 2007/07/30 16:44:57 (permalink)
    I picked it up today and it's a sweetie.  I have NOTHING bad to say about the rod.  I still have to pick out the reel and line.  I'll cast some lines another day, and fish it this weekend hopefully.
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    RE: Diamondglass rods 2007/07/30 17:19:46 (permalink)
    I read an article in Mid Atlantic Flyfishing that Cortland Line Co. is relocating Diamondback Rods to Corltand, New York. I hope the rods are not going off shore too.
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    RE: Diamondglass rods 2007/07/30 18:38:04 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: chrisrowboat

    I read an article in Mid Atlantic Flyfishing that Cortland Line Co. is relocating Diamondback Rods to Corltand, New York. I hope the rods are not going off shore too.
    Chris



    I talked to a dealer this week that said they are still going to build the rods in the US.

    I cast the classic trout and western series a few weeks ago, and I must say, they are just as good as any other high end rod out there. The action of the classic trout model is very similar to the Winston WT, and it has spiqot ferrules... Not quite as pretty though.
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    RE: Diamondglass rods 2007/07/30 19:50:38 (permalink)
    I would really consider buying another if there was something I needed.  I think the company is extremely underrated as far as quality and value.
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    RE: Diamondglass rods 2007/07/30 20:23:07 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: mgolf92

    I would really consider buying another if there was something I needed.  I think the company is extremely underrated as far as quality and value.

     
    I agree.
     
    I also have a 8.5' 5wt VSR. It is a little fast for my tastes, but it will shoot 90ft of line easier than any other rod I own.
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    RE: Diamondglass rods 2007/08/01 18:48:11 (permalink)
    I put a Battenkill Bar-Stock reel on with a Cortland 333 line(nice for the price).  Now I just have to go fishing...   I should come down your way.  There's nothing going on here.
     
    Mike
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    RE: Diamondglass rods 2007/08/03 18:44:26 (permalink)
    I cast the Drake's 3-weight and except for it wanting to put the fly in a tree on the backcast on occasion, I come to the same conclusion that he did -- it is a fine rod.  It was able to deliver a Trico on a 7X 12-foot leader the width of the section of Spring Creek that we were fishing with ease.  Surprisingly, it could even punch the tiny fly with that long of a leader under limbs and into tight spots.  It didn't catch any fish, though.
     
    I do have a question concerning the 8.5 5-weight VSR -- Is it really necessary, given the waters that we fish, to have the need to punch a fly 90 feet for suckers?

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    RE: Diamondglass rods 2007/08/27 21:38:38 (permalink)
    i have an old eagle claw glass rod . great for small streams .  sometimes i forget about it with all the high-tech, high-price stuff i have. 
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    RE: Diamondglass rods 2007/08/27 23:12:59 (permalink)
    I got a couple of oldies, too that I fish.
    Both 5 wt.  but both are exceptional with 4 wt. lines.
    One is an old Fenwick Feralite 8 footer.
    The one I'm most impressed with is this old 6ft. Conolon Rod that seems to be indestructible. I got it cheap at a garage sale. The label has the old silk line designation of HEH & H which would equal a modern DT5 and level 5. This rod gets banged around quite a bit fishing some of the small streams in the ANF. Trees, boulders, ect... And still, only a few hardly detectable surface scratches in the finish.
    One rod that impressed me was an old 8 1/2 ft 6wt. Shakespeare Wonderod that I got to cast. It could really fire some line.
    Long live glass.

    There' a couple of Diamondglass rods up on a forum that I visit. A 6 1/2'  3wt. and an 8' 4wt. if anyone is interested.

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    post edited by dano - 2007/08/27 23:15:39
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    RE: Diamondglass rods 2007/09/02 09:36:02 (permalink)
    This thread has hit on one of my soap box issues...  Fast...  Super FAST...  This rod is a cannon...  Light...  This rod is super light...  This rod is so light that it floats...
     
    The way we market fly rods today has rendered the line wt rating on most rods almost useless.  To get noticed today a rod has to keep 60 feet of line in the air, cast into the backing in a parking lot or punch a fluffy fly through a hurricane.  Then it has to be so light you have to add a reel and line to make sure it doesn't float away.  Are there guys that can use that kind of rod?  Yes.  Are there guys that can own that kind of rod and not break them like uncooked spaghetti?  Yes.  Does that mean they are for everyone?  NOOOOOO.
     
    The average fly guy doesn't care for his equipment well enough to own a GLX.  Just look at the number of guys that blow them up and the reputation they have gotten.  If a rod doesn't break in the first five fishing trips any breaks after that are almost always user error.  A bead head nick, high sticking, snapping a fly out of a tree...  Lighter can only come from less material based on current technology and less material means reduced hoop strength and reduced durability.  Most fly guys would do better with a touch more weight on the blank to give them a more durable and more realistic tool to trudge thought the brush with, whack with a micro shot and drop stream side.
     
    All of this fast action, fast action and more fast action has really jacked up the industry.  Most 5 wt rods can keep 50 or 60 feet of 5wt fly line in the air and guys wonder why they feel like a broom stick at 20 to 30 feet.  Fly rods should be rated for two or three line weights since what makes up that rating is the needed line weight needed to keep 30 feet of line in the air and load the rod to 30% to 40%.  A properly rated 5wt should load with 40 to 50 ft of 4wt line in the air, 30 ft of 5wt line and 20 or less of 6wt line.  This is a system that would allow the customer to evaluate and select a rod or blank with intelligence and not based on the best marketing hype and slickest paper used in a brochure.
     
    Glass is an excellent materials to roll a blank out of and with modern glass materials may even be superior in many key ways especially in the lower line weight rods.  I guess it is easier to market than educate and inform...
     
    OK I'm off my soap box...  Sorry for the whine...
     
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    RE: Diamondglass rods 2007/10/01 19:03:09 (permalink)
    We own Diamondback Glass Rods they are very strong rods and very rarely will you break off while fighting a fish. They are also fun to fish with.
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    RE: Diamondglass rods 2007/10/01 19:29:37 (permalink)




    "They are also fun to fish with"
     
    I'll second that.  Whenever I don't have much going on and can't get a ride to a respectable fishing spot, I take my 3 wt. Diamondglass rod right down the street to Upper Elk and go Chub fishing for a few hours.  I catch them on little dry ants and small nymphs, and this rod is great for this, unweighted type of fishing.  It is alot of fun to play around with, and hopefully I'll put it to some real use during spring on some wild browns hidden in a little stream that I know of...


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    RE: Diamondglass rods 2007/10/02 00:52:31 (permalink)
    Hello, I am a dealer for the Diamondglass S glass rods. The difference between these and a graphite rod is these are actually fun to fish with. Graphite gives us high line speed, tight loops, and consequently, long distance, but they are not as fun as glass. Although the glass rods are great on short casts, I've seen many people easily cast them 60 feet. The 7 - 7 1/2' models are very nice. The rods have a following that will fish nothing else for trout. The best way to describe them is they are for those who want to have fun and enjoy the casting.
    If you are ever looking for graphite, the new Wright & McGill rods got outstanding reveiws and I've sent them all over the country. The case alone is worth the price. www.contented-angler.com
    thank you,
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    RE: Diamondglass rods 2007/10/02 08:30:54 (permalink)
    Joe can not find your web site, I tried all
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    RE: Diamondglass rods 2007/10/02 09:15:10 (permalink)
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    RE: Diamondglass rods 2007/10/02 20:39:26 (permalink)
    Thank you it worked tonight
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