French Creek!

Time to hit the creek again! Last night was slow a few Walleye, but things should get better as the creek levels off.

ORIGINAL: rapala11

getting my non-rez license next week.  after a trip to the tribs, that will be my next stop.  never realized how long that creek is.  you pa guyz got it all

French is a river but since it drains into the Allegheny its called a creek

Fish mostly in between Waterford and Cambridge Springs, but everytime i turn around somebody is posting the land that you have to cross to get to the holes......what method do you use i'm strictly 1/4 oz lead head with a plastic jig body

French is a river but since it drains into the Allegheny its called a creek

 
 
It might be big enough to be called a river, but is a creek according this
definition. River is a large natural stream. Creek is a small to medium sized natural stream. Also by it's ranking. When two first-order streams come together, they form a second-order stream. When two second-order streams come together, they form a third-order stream. Streams of lower order joining a higher order stream do not change the order of the higher stream. Thus, if a first-order stream joins a second-order stream, it remains a second-order stream. It is not until a second-order stream combines with another second-order stream that it becomes a third-order stream.

If my memory serves me right there can be up to a 12th order stream. I think the Ohio is an 8th order, so that would make the Alleghney and the Mon 7th orders. So French would be a 6 or lower?




I found this on Wikipedia, but since it is Wikipedia take it with a grain of salt:


French Creek is a tributary of the Allegheny River in northwestern Pennsylvania and western New York in the United States. Creek is somewhat of a misnomer, as it is generally considered to be a river, which is reflected in earlier names for the stream.

It was known to Native Americans of the region as Onenge, meaning Otter. This was corrupted into English as the Venango River. A settlement at its mouth was likewise called Venango, and is the site of present-day Franklin, Pennsylvania.






Also I've read somewhere that some people consider the Mon to be a trib of the Allehgeny and hence there is no Ohio River but I cannot find a link

ORIGINAL: psu_fish

Riffle Runners in the summer

Rapalas and other various crankbaits in the fall/winter

 
You are right on the money with this statement! I do not use live bait @Ole' Frenchy.....
 
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loby

Loby, I would like to team up with you someday.  It seems like you have some techniques I would like to see, and I have a couple of cold weather techniques that I would like to try that have been very good on other cold weather rivers. 

ORIGINAL: Steeler Fan

Nice post on the history of French Creek and how it was named.  http://www.nature.org/wherewework/northamerica/states/pennsylvania/preserves/art9996.html
http://www.wpconline.org/french_creek/about/index.html

As a property owner on French Creek I find those conservancy people to be a joke.  While they write eloquently, they do very little to help the creek except yak about how nice it is and how it needs saved.  Are they doing anything to "save" it?  Not that I know of.

Property owners who contact them are not answered.  Property they own is not taken care of.  For over a year a fallen tree had blocked the canoe access (the old one) at Utica.  When I got tired of seeing people having so much trouble launching I brought a chain saw and set the fallen tree free.

The "new" launch they wormed out of the people who built the new Utica bridge is almost worthless since it's far from the parking.

Just my opinion but I trust them about as much as I trust the PETA group.

Loby,

You know you couldn't have landed those hawgs without a good net man  Maybe next time I can catch something other than lumber

Griffon,

It doesn't seem like Loby has good techniques, he definitely has good techniques.  I was lucky to witness how good homework can pay off.

Charlie Brown

Sweet!!

Griffon,

Sorry, I should have typed that better.  I didn't mean for it to sound like you were questioning him I just was was trying to state that Loby was a great fisherman. 

I've been reading this site for a few months and finally decided to join.  I was hoping you guys could tell me if you are fishing from a boat or from Shore.  How deep of water are you fishing?

Boy you got that right fan,
There's still some dam good fishing to be had from utica to sugarcreek.Or for that matter down to franklin.

ORIGINAL: psu_fish

 Also I've read somewhere that some people consider the Mon to be a trib of the Allehgeny and hence there is no Ohio River but I cannot find a link

 
 
 
 
The Allegheny was just a stream, and the Monogahela River flowed alone into Lake Erie until the last ice age blocked their flows northward, turning them both south to combine and form the Ohio River.
 
The Monogahela is a very ancient river, the Allegheny and Ohio are relative newcomers.