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RE: Tomahawk Doe Kill 2009/01/04 22:22:33 (permalink)
I personally know Ray Bell and was surprised when I linked to the other page to see him with a Tomahawk and a dead deer!  Ray is a good guy and a good hunter/sportsman.  From what I understand somebody else other than Ray posted this as a joke.  I will see Ray in the next couple weeks and will get the full story, but this is a good example of how people should not believe what they read/see on the internet!
 
Dr Trout, you were awfully quick to run to the PGC on this one!
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RE: Tomahawk Doe Kill 2009/01/04 23:02:14 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: Goodsy

I personally know Ray Bell and was surprised when I linked to the other page to see him with a Tomahawk and a dead deer!  Ray is a good guy and a good hunter/sportsman.  From what I understand somebody else other than Ray posted this as a joke.  I will see Ray in the next couple weeks and will get the full story, but this is a good example of how people should not believe what they read/see on the internet!

Dr Trout, you were awfully quick to run to the PGC on this one!

 
Now im confused, This guy posed in a picture with a dead deer with a tomahawk in its side, I hope someone can get the whole story, because it sure looks like to me he is trying to convince people he killed this deer with an axe.  Humm, I cant tell you how many times someone made me pose with a dead deer and a tomahawk against my will.  Why the hell would you  have a tomahawk out in a corn field if it wasnt for a preplanned hoax?
 
 

 

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RE: Tomahawk Doe Kill 2009/01/04 23:05:21 (permalink)
Photoshopped  LOL

 



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RE: Tomahawk Doe Kill 2009/01/04 23:26:27 (permalink)
me and quincy cracked this one a long time ago just waiting for you guys to catch up......LOL
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RE: Tomahawk Doe Kill 2009/01/05 07:08:00 (permalink)
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Sometimes I do not know why I waste my time posting here..... ????

Assuming he tagged it I don't know what they could fine him for.


Did you not read the first line.....  killing a deer with a tomahawk is illegal....

 
Sometimes I wonder the same thing...Why you even bother...
 
Emailing the PGC over some stupid internet hoax is quite stupid...
Why waste their time and money on something quite obvious was a joke..
Guess the jokes on you here Doc..
Running to the authorities??? I find that very laughable...
Just like trying to get the dog catcher fired..Real fine fellow you are...
 
Listen carefully old gullible fella...Not everything you read on here is true. Some people will even out and out lie..Can you believe it...
Not sure who's worse the guys telling the first lie(or joke) or 100 peeps after that will believe anything they read..and to the degree that they would contact the PGC is silly...


I call """BS"""
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RE: Tomahawk Doe Kill 2009/01/05 11:51:57 (permalink)
You guys are real IDIOTS...... I think some should be thrown off this board...

I never E-mailed the PGC.....  and to accuse me of that is just WRONG...
they E-mailed me .....

this tomahawk thing was everywhwere on the internet... I did not allow it on my site because I KNEW it was illegal to use a tomahawk.... period... I could care less what the moderators allow here .. truth or lies... IT ain't my board...

But to imply I went to the PGC is an out and out lie 



The E-mail I referred to was SENT TO ME... because of another internet site...
The PGC was aware of this thing LONG BEFORE I found it here on this board... and I stopped it from getting on mine when someone here tried to post it over there... even the link here is to another site and other sites are mentioned too...

You guys are just trying to make this board into a silly place with just a few guys with multiple usernames running the show...........

I know those accusing me of running to the PGC on this one would never apoligize for their insults.. so all I can say is

GO TO HELL  !!

And to answer a question from some other thread...

I probably get and or send about 10 E-mails a day containing many things even jokes ETC from/to about 7 people at PGC Headquaters... several are actually personal friends and we would be friends and exchange E-mails even if they worked some where else...

I also directly recieved all press releases and  talk on the phone several times a month with PGC folks....

thay have been more that gracious at providibng me with literature etc to share with the members and guests at our sportman's club... I have been invited on bear tagging trips, elk viewing trips, waterfowl trips etc etc. not just with PGC folks but commissioners... legilsators.. WCOS.. ETC ETC..

I'm really -- A NICE GUY  as anyone that knows me would tell you if asked !!!!!!
 
and if you happen to be at the JANUARY PGC meeting ask someone where is Dr. Trout and they will point you to me
post edited by Dr. Trout - 2009/01/05 12:03:24
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RE: Tomahawk Doe Kill 2009/01/05 12:29:20 (permalink)
I'am just wondering, not accusing,
 
Nothing about the subject was on your site
You didn't have any e-mail or voice conversations with anyone in the PGC about the subject
They had no reason to believe you knew anything about the subject or had any interest in it
It was not one of their normal press releases
There are dozens of ongoing investigations every day
They normally only comment when an arrest is made or wildlife is killed and they need the publics help in finding the killers
To my knowledge there was nothing communicated to Fish USA about the topic even it was a topic on it's board
Why do you think that out of the blue they would e-mail you on this particular subject?
 
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RE: Tomahawk Doe Kill 2009/01/05 13:05:29 (permalink)
Because I am friends with several of them...  it's a shame if you do not have friends that would tell you something in confidence or give you some "inside" info and tell you somehting they wanted "put out there"

I did not post the entire E-mail .... 


The E-mail mentioned that no one from the PGC that belongs or visits my board had seen it there and it was on almost every other board around... and wondered if I knew anything about it.... notice I never replied to the post here until I got the E-MAIL. I knew it was a lie when I read it... atlaals and tomahawks are NO NOS........

The other reason was they wanted people to know that lies were in that post.... 

There is not special permit and killing a deer with a tomahawk is illegal...
they were afraid someone would read that post here or somewhere else and believe it to be true... since no one had posted it was illegal and it seemed many on boards were believing it...



Since you read my board you know of two "cases" about deer season violations..... did you get or see them in a press release ?????

NO..


see them here... NO...

on some other site .. NO....

but you will see them. or hear of them.

I was allowed to mention those cases... but I know of others that I am not allowed to mention....

Gheezzz... to bad some of you never had friends that could or would confide in you... but of course from reading this board I can see why I wouldn't tell allot of you anything !!!

After all these years I also find it offensive that you (s-10) while posting on my board state you enjoy some of the "inside" PGC stuff I put there... then come over here and     "wonder not accuse" ..

Just don't understand that one ????

BTW.. go back and read my post... I said I deleted the tomahawk thing when it appeared... OR IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THERE..look at my board -- I and other moderators can delete anything we want.... I/we just do it more than some boards..........
post edited by Dr. Trout - 2009/01/05 13:09:38
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RE: Tomahawk Doe Kill 2009/01/05 13:15:04 (permalink)
it's a shame if you do not have friends that would tell you something in confidence or gicve you some "inside" info.

If thats the case why would you post some inside info given in confidence on this site. And if it wasn't given in confidence why did they ask you since you had nothing about it on your site and not the site where it was posted originally?  You keep digging the hole deeper and deeper Doc.
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RE: Tomahawk Doe Kill 2009/01/05 13:19:12 (permalink)
Hi, this is the real Ray Bell. I didn't even know this was going on.  I do not have the internet at home and I've been off for the last two weeks.  First of all, it is me in the pictures but I did none of the postings.  Someone took the liberty of being me.  I took these pictures on the last day of hunting season when I shot this doe with my 06.  This deer dropped about 80 yds. from my vehicle in which my newly received tomahawk lay.  The reason for the picture: I have an acquaintance that I cannot beat with a story and from what I've heard recently, we all have one.  If I saw a ten point with a twenty inch spread, he saw a 12 point with a 22 inch spread.  If I saw a flock of 40 turkeys he saw one with 50...and so on and so on.   I just wanted to make something unbeatable and what I thought was so unbelievable that no one would.  I was wrong.   I sent the pictures to 3 people and they were not supposed to go all over the internet.  The game commission has not contacted me...YET. 
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RE: Tomahawk Doe Kill 2009/01/05 13:37:04 (permalink)
IF this is really you Ray... thanks for clearing this up....
 
have you done the same on the other boards that it is a topic on ?????
 
If not you should..... I know of three other boards it is on and you are getting BASHED BIG TIME !!!!
 
and I hope you will allow me the same trust that you want in believing this post that I did not contact the PGC.. they were already aware of the story..
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RE: Tomahawk Doe Kill 2009/01/05 18:03:49 (permalink)
Thanks for the clarification ray, the attacehd pic in your post make me 99.9% sure it is you. 
 
Be more carefull in the future I guess what kind of pictures you get take of your self.  i know I would like to have a few from the past erased as well but never one with a deer.
 
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RE: Tomahawk Doe Kill 2009/01/05 18:17:05 (permalink)
You keep digging the hole deeper and deeper Doc.


how ya figure.....?????????/

They knew I would post that it was illegal .... and there was no special permit
and no one would go out hunting thinking it was....

and as far as you know the person who alerted me to it being on my board may be from Harrisburg.. I have several there that visit everyday.. in fact they MAY have seen it before I did and called or wrote.. I am not on the board 24/7..... I do have moderators and friends that like the board the way it is and know the type of message board I want to run... several are over here as well.... 

how that all came about is privelged info.. just believe me ... I did not alert the PGC to the whole tomahawk story...  they were aware of it already....
and I was NOT told "it was off the record" to post on message boards.....


so I did just that -- posted it on the one board I belong too where it was a hot topic..here... I was not asked to do that...  I JUST THOUGHT SOME ONE HERE SHOULD MENTION FINALLY THAT IT IS ILLEGAL...

I only belong to this board.. huntingpa since it started in 1999.. and my board...... most of the other ones I have no time for.... and this one seems to be headed in that direction too.... and those in control seem to not care........  ????????????????

I think the one board still has no post saying it is illegal..... ???

post edited by Dr. Trout - 2009/01/05 18:28:49
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RE: Tomahawk Doe Kill 2009/01/06 15:20:24 (permalink)
Doc....Please do not call me an idiot.  You do not know me, I have been a member on this board longer than you and have read the majority of the posts regarding hunting on here.  I do not post often(because I do not like arguing a losing battle with people who are set in their ways), but do find it comical to read through people's different opinions.  Remember the Little General?  I wish he was on here so you two could go at it again!
 
If you read your reply that you posted and understand no one on this board knows where it came from, anyone would or could think that you did email the PGC on this.  It seems you go a little over board with the whole PGC thing.  You can understand why I would have thought you emailed them on the subject.
 
BTW - The Real Ray that posted here is legitimate, I can confirm that much.
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RE: Tomahawk Doe Kill 2009/01/06 19:36:26 (permalink)
I just get tired of being bashed every time I post here... and peolpe not reading the words I post....

here's what I wrote when I posted the E-mail info...

From an E-mail from the PGC in Harrisburg.... 


Notice it does not say an E-mail in reply to one I sent... 

If I would have written first I would have posted that I did and was waiting.. I've done that MANY MANY times here....

that's why I said IDIOTS.....
post edited by Dr. Trout - 2009/01/06 19:37:23
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