na... I won't.  ask why he's putting rebar in the J.

He's trying to breed Steelheads?
 

ORIGINAL: SilverKype

na... I won't.  ask why he's putting rebar in the J.

LOL spoon.

LOL  Don't hold back Jon PLease 

..maybe he''l let you come catch some of his "wild" trout for a small fee... ask him...

...and get some pink san juan worms with grizzly hackle.  You'll catch every one of those "wild" pellet-fed trout.
 
 
 

..I mean rainbows

 ... the trout think beetles are pellets Kyler.....hint hint

Git 'em!

wow alot of reading and typing went on there. but no thinking. nitrates..... huh well if the nitrates are so high.... how come the water isnt loaded with green algea? oh I forgot algea usually growns with high nitrates and high phophates which usuaully come from sewage enriched waters.  but Ill gladly meet you at those places wit my ammonia , nitrite and nitrates test kits just to see wether there really is a 40% difference or if its just the ones who dislike him say that to the ones who dont.


Keep thinking of excuses, keep blaming things on everything but yourselves but Ill agree with spoon we are our own worse enemys. Especally the ones who think they do no wrong when they bash one but not another.  If your all going to be tree hugging hippies or donny beaver haters why dont you just go after the walmarts, gander mountians, cabelas, and petroleum companies.

Whose to belame for the Susqie being so polluted and unfishable? Whose fault is it that soon lake erie will be unfishable from the banks in ohio, and whose fault will it be when the only places left with fish are those Privatly owned waters?

im sure people like donny beaver will be getting the blame but never the real people who are behind it.

Ill never be able to afford the cost of what it takes to be a member of those precious clubs or get to take 2 weeks off and go out west to fish rivers that never seen man. but Ill be able to say I dont blame someone with money for my wrong doing or those who think that its ok to leave their 12 empty old milwaukee beer cans laying on the rivers edge.

and whose to say you or anyone else arent as well?

and your intelligence shows

I'm smart enough not to defend D.Beaver, the socalled conservationist, and what he stands for. Why would you believe anything he says? All I can figure out is that he is desperate need of some good P.R. and playing the misunderstood nice guy is the only chance he's got. Ask him how many friends he's got that fished a certain section of a stream in Ohio that he's leased. Oh well, have fun.

In my spare time I guide for the local outfitter that was involved in the lawsuit against the spring ridge club; therefore, I would consider myself "in the know" about the ordeal.

Having guided on and fished in spruce creek, I can definately say that spruce is suffering from the stocking, and feeding of fish. That stream is packed full of trout. and when I say that I mean it. Pull off the road, and look in the water. You will be able to see loads of football sized bows all through the stream in and near the src's water. Turn over some rocks, and you'll realize that there are very few mayflies left. In fact, there is barely a sulphur hatch in the stream, when a few years ago, it was prolific. If you fish the PSU water on spruce, you may be lucky enough to catch the "pellet hatch". There are more than a few people who have witnessed this.

The SRC considers their practices to be sound, but anyone with a brain in their head should realize that stocking and feeding fish in streams that can sustain wild fish is a bad idea. Yellow Creek in Bedford county is a good example. Years ago, I could fish the flyfish only stretch of YC and often catch browns the size of your pinky. It was obvious that these fish were wild and abundant. Within the past 2 years, I have not caught one brown this size. In my opinion, all the large fish that are being stocked there by the SRC is hurting this wild population of fish. Instead of catching those beautiful wild browns in Yellow Creek, you catch big ugly stocked pellet fed bows, that are shaped like footballs and put up nearly no fight. Some anglers like these fish, as they are large and easy to catch; however, their not my cup of tea.

Kyler, please dont buy into the idea that the SRC and Donny Beaver are good. While keeping the streams private, they may prevent litter, overpressure, etc on the stream, but they "litter" the stream with pellets and stocked bows, and create a tough environment for the wild and native trout that live there.

Some people believe that private water is a good thing. I too believed that once, until I realized that the majority of people do not know what is good for a stream. You would think that since the SRC has their own biologist, that they would know whats good for a stream and act accordingly. Unfortunatley, it seems, they only have one to say that they do. No good biologist would recommend feeding stockies in any stream that supports wild fish. A wiser man than myself once said "some people can put their morals in their back pockets in order to make a buck"....thats surely the case here.

Kyler16, Karma has a way of putting shrapnel in your ars.
Go defend the Beave, People in the know, tell me he's on the run to Colorado where private streams are the norm.