Buck/Doe ratios

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2008/09/12 07:43:53 (permalink)

Buck/Doe ratios

The topic has come up in another discussion so I thought I would start a new thread.

Here is a link to Kip Adams of QDMA explaining buck to doe ratios or sex ratios as they should be called.  Even with a heavy male harvest and light female it is almost impossible to get a ratio much above 3/1. 

The numbers are there with some hypothetical examples as well.  Took me awhile to believe it but.....

http://www.qdma.com/articles/details.asp?id=119
post edited by dpms - 2008/09/12 07:44:23
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    S-10
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    RE: Buck/Doe ratios 2008/09/12 08:55:29 (permalink)
    While I believe that article to be correct that isn't what Alt and the PGC were telling us when they were trying to sell HR/AR. The 10-1 and 15-1 were the numbers they were spouting. In fact Alt refered to our ratio as so bad it was "corrupt". The only ones I remember questioning those high numbers was that nasty organization  Jim Silinsky was a part of. Remember him? Apparently not all QDMA members agree though as here is some exercpts from a 2003 newsletter put out by the Pike County QDMA.
     
     
    Our field observations at the Milford Experimental Forest indicate a ratio of six or seven antlerless deer for every antlered buck, which translates to about four reproductive does for every mature buck. 
     Putting the QDMA Philosophy Into Practice:   The goals of the QDMA are almost identical to the changes that Dr. Gary Alt has been making in PGC regulations.
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    RE: Buck/Doe ratios 2008/09/12 09:51:25 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: S-10

    While I believe that article to be correct that isn't what Alt and the PGC were telling us when they were trying to sell HR/AR. The 10-1 and 15-1 were the numbers they were spouting.

    Our field observations at the Milford Experimental Forest indicate a ratio of six or seven antlerless deer for every antlered buck,

     
    I agree S-10 about what was spouting.  As I have said before, some selling of the program was going on.  I wish that was not the case.  Just like the big antlers I saw him waiving too.  Unfortunate IMO.
     
    As for the other QDMA info, a antlerless deer could be a BB.  A sex ratio is more appropriate.  Many hunters do remember the days of seeing antlerless deer outnumbering antlered deer 10 years ago by a big margin.  The true sex ratio though was still close to 3/1.
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    RE: Buck/Doe ratios 2008/09/12 11:56:37 (permalink)
    Well-hate to go but Colorado's elk bull /cow ratio needs worked on and I am going to try to do my part.
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    RE: Buck/Doe ratios 2008/09/12 12:04:04 (permalink)
    Sweeeeet!!
     
    Best of luck to ya.
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    RE: Buck/Doe ratios 2008/09/12 13:06:36 (permalink)
    good luck s-10  where at?  I hunt in 64 & 65 around Ouray and Ridgeway.

    Better too far back, than too far forward.
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    RE: Buck/Doe ratios 2008/09/14 22:26:14 (permalink)
    Good Luck S10!
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