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go fund me for a cold blooded murder?!?!?!
Luigi Mangione Fundraiser Update as Donations Near Milestone One anonymous $15 giver wrote Thursday, "I believe you are a good person Luigi who is trying to make a real change in the world." what is wrong with people? the people that donate to him should be institutionalized in a nut house for the criminally insane ..KTF
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2024/12/12 15:39:40
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☄ Helpfulby bingsbaits 2024/12/13 06:46:40
Remember liberals are the party of tolerance and acceptance. The party that types out "Eat the Rich" from their iPhone or Macbook, while drinking a Venti from Starbucks. The party that values human life, unless in the womb. My body, my choice, unless its the mRNA Vax. The party that believes in science, but also cannot define a woman, and are hellbent on destroying girls/women sports from the high school to professional level. The party that believes in more than two genders, and men can menstruate. People like Taylor Lorenz who have"joy" over this murder, are well, mentally unwell. It would not shock me if myWar was paid subscriber of her substack .
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Re: go fund me for a cold blooded murder?!?!?!
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Re: go fund me for a cold blooded murder?!?!?!
2024/12/12 17:41:49
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This guy comes from one of the most wealthy families in Baltimore. Pretty sure he would be eligible for care a bit more than your average Joe. A lot to unpack in why he did it, but sounds like he had a mental breakdown, possibly mental illness. The guy was top of his class at a high end rich kid school and then an Ivy League masters of engineering. Obviously a pretty smart guy.
What I don’t understand most, how is this only 2nd degree murder? From what I had heard, that is the charge. That and weapons, false id and other lesser charges. How wouldn’t this be premeditated? I thought planning out, intentionally killing someone then trying to get away with it was first degree???
For those donating, WTF? For others to not feel bad about an evil person being killed by another evil person, whatever. I didn’t lose any sleep over it. Pretty much when a drug kingpin is killed by a crazy person.
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Porktown For others to not feel bad about an evil person being killed by another evil person, whatever. I didn’t lose any sleep over it. Pretty much when a drug kingpin is killed by a crazy person.
am I understanding you're calling a med insurance exec and "evil person" ? if so, what makes the CEO of a for profit insurance co "evil" ? ..KTF
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It's things like this that I sometimes wish that God would take his mighty hand and wipe the world clean and just start over. Then again, Like Rorschach said in the movie,"Watchmen". "God doesn't make the world this way, we do." Or "Men get arrested, dogs get put down."
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Re: go fund me for a cold blooded murder?!?!?!
2024/12/12 20:37:31
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The same conservatives that celebrated vigilante justice when it was Kyle Rittenhouse dishing it out are suddenly clutching their pearls when the target is the embodiment of pure corporate greed. Because of course they are.
Ok then let’s all reflect on how capitalism is beautiful and perfect and flawless. And everything wrong with our healthcare system is Barack Obama’s fault, not the multi billion dollar medical insurance industry, which only exists to profit by serving as a barrier between patients and patient care.
It’s a good thing we have millionaires and billionaires like Donald Trump and Elon musk, so they can remind us that the real “enemies of the people” are other poor schmucks instead of people like Brian Thompson. I mean yea, united healthcare made billions of dollars by denying healthcare to hundreds of thousands of people, many of whom then died as a direct result of their actions. But thats only a bad thing if it happens to me.
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☄ Helpfulby r3g3 2024/12/12 23:01:56
MyWar The same conservatives that celebrated vigilante justice when it was Kyle Rittenhouse dishing it out are suddenly clutching their pearls when the target is the embodiment of pure corporate greed. Because of course they are.
Ok then let’s all reflect on how capitalism is beautiful and perfect and flawless. And everything wrong with our healthcare system is Barack Obama’s fault, not the multi billion dollar medical insurance industry, which only exists to profit by serving as a barrier between patients and patient care.
It’s a good thing we have millionaires and billionaires like Donald Trump and Elon musk, so they can remind us that the real “enemies of the people” are other poor schmucks instead of people like Brian Thompson. I mean yea, united healthcare made billions of dollars by denying healthcare to hundreds of thousands of people, many of whom then died as a direct result of their actions. But thats only a bad thing if it happens to me.
are you condoning murder? Do you belong in the nut house too? or do you just like to blather on your left wing rants? ..KTF
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2024/12/12 21:08:11
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Life is not fair. When a wealthy person or family member of so if knocked off it becomes national news and talked about for months if not longer. with huge man hunts and so forth. When a innocent child/baby is knocked off at a park, playing in their yard or sitting on their porch with family the news isn't televised 100 miles away or talked about on here. The poor kids never had a chance to live. I have more sympathy for the poor innocent babies and children than the adults that lived the highlife.
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Re: go fund me for a cold blooded murder?!?!?!
2024/12/12 21:18:24
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MyWarAnd everything wrong with our healthcare system is Barack Obama’s fault, not the multi billion dollar medical insurance industry, which only exists to profit by serving as a barrier between patients and patient care.
Obamacare kind of made this dynamic even worse though.
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Re: go fund me for a cold blooded murder?!?!?!
2024/12/12 21:21:24
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MyWar I mean yea, united healthcare made billions of dollars by denying healthcare to hundreds of thousands of people, many of whom then died as a direct result of their actions.
Sums up why I haven’t lost any sleep over this. I’d rather see politicians pull their heads out of their rears and address the root of the problem, rather than vigilante justice. Wasn’t right with Dorkenhouse, not right here either.
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Re: go fund me for a cold blooded murder?!?!?!
2024/12/12 21:27:40
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crappiefisher I have more sympathy for the poor innocent babies and children than the adults that lived the highlife.
Agree, but more so with how this guy made his highlife earnings. He set policy, which was a steady increase of denials and delay of coverage. Like MyWar said, often leading to pain and suffering and sometimes death of mostly everyday people. I am just fine with people making big bucks if they are doing it with morals. This guy was not that.
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Re: go fund me for a cold blooded murder?!?!?!
2024/12/12 23:24:20
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Porktown
What I don’t understand most, how is this only 2nd degree murder? From what I had heard, that is the charge. That and weapons, false id and other lesser charges. How wouldn’t this be premeditated? I thought planning out, intentionally killing someone then trying to get away with it was first degree???
I agree, Pork. He researched the target and knew exactly who it was that he was after; he knew his itinerary & his route, and deliberately laid in wait in the early morning for the victim to come along. To me, that is murder in the 1st degree.
Whenever you want to know what the Democrats are up to, watch what they accuse the other side of doing.
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☄ Helpfulby r3g3 2024/12/13 10:23:23
Calling an insurance company CEO evil for getting shot in the back is so much BS. Makes the man saying a huge DBAG, azzhole... And guess who his president will be for the next four years... What a piece of **** you have to be to think the way you do. Feel sorry any one in your family that has to live with an individual as stupid and evil as you.
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Re: go fund me for a cold blooded murder?!?!?!
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Maybe my buddies at the JTF will enjoy your latest harassing message to go along with your threat. Better hope your record, taxes and acquaintances are clean. One nice thing about working 26 years as a federal contractor, you get to know a lot of people. Keep it coming, who knows they may dig something up on one of your family members or best friends while they are at it. Speaking of sorry to ones family, right?
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Re: go fund me for a cold blooded murder?!?!?!
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2024/12/13 09:15:13
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you guys looking the other way, not caring are the flip side of the same putrid rotten coin as the religious zealots that look the other way when a deranged killer murders an abortion doc It's the same, only different beam me the f' up, Scotty ..KTF
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Re: go fund me for a cold blooded murder?!?!?!
2024/12/13 09:25:38
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Porktown
MyWarAnd everything wrong with our healthcare system is Barack Obama’s fault, not the multi billion dollar medical insurance industry, which only exists to profit by serving as a barrier between patients and patient care.
Obamacare kind of made this dynamic even worse though.
How so?
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Re: go fund me for a cold blooded murder?!?!?!
2024/12/13 09:39:38
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MyWar The same conservatives that celebrated vigilante justice when it was Kyle Rittenhouse dishing it out are suddenly clutching their pearls when the target is the embodiment of pure corporate greed. Because of course they are.
Ok then let’s all reflect on how capitalism is beautiful and perfect and flawless. And everything wrong with our healthcare system is Barack Obama’s fault, not the multi billion dollar medical insurance industry, which only exists to profit by serving as a barrier between patients and patient care.
It’s a good thing we have millionaires and billionaires like Donald Trump and Elon musk, so they can remind us that the real “enemies of the people” are other poor schmucks instead of people like Brian Thompson. I mean yea, united healthcare made billions of dollars by denying healthcare to hundreds of thousands of people, many of whom then died as a direct result of their actions. But thats only a bad thing if it happens to me.
are you condoning murder? Do you belong in the nut house too? or do you just like to blather on your left wing rants? ..KTF
Are you condoning the actions of United healthcare? They went so far as to use AI algorithms to deny claims. https://www.foxbusiness.c...e-advantage-claims.ampYou very much seem like the kind of person who will rant on and on about how Barack Obama and democrats ruined healthcare, while the real villain is sitting right in front of your face, but you refuse to look at it or acknowledge that it’s the real problem.
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Re: go fund me for a cold blooded murder?!?!?!
2024/12/13 09:42:54
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MyWar How so?
It rewarded this “middleman” system as you noted, with more clients. It forced them to take in higher risk patients. They responded by finding the gray areas and pushing the boundaries as much as possible (the deny, delay, etc). Not saying it caused the issue, but fed into it. It could possibly be from “tweaks” to the original Obamacare, but the overall legislation forced a lot more business into health insurance and a lot more gray areas.
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2024/12/13 09:48:23
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Are you condoning the actions of United healthcare? They went so far as to use AI algorithms to deny claims. I'll be glad to answer your questions when answer mine, Sweetheart MyWarYou very much seem like the kind of person who will rant on and on about how Barack Obama and democrats ruined healthcare, while the real villain is sitting right in front of your face, but you refuse to look at it or acknowledge that it’s the real problem.
you seem very much like a cueball that doesn't know chit about me and just assumes stupid chit ..KTF
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Re: go fund me for a cold blooded murder?!?!?!
2024/12/13 10:10:04
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MyWar How so?
It rewarded this “middleman” system as you noted, with more clients. It forced them to take in higher risk patients. They responded by finding the gray areas and pushing the boundaries as much as possible (the deny, delay, etc). Not saying it caused the issue, but fed into it. It could possibly be from “tweaks” to the original Obamacare, but the overall legislation forced a lot more business into health insurance and a lot more gray areas.
Insurance companies were exploiting gray areas before the ACA as well. They were different gray areas, but gray areas just the same. What would you call denial of claims due to pre-existing conditions? As for “forcing them to take higher risk patients”, so what options should those people have for healthcare access? Because before the ACA they had basically no options at all. Also, who determines what “higher risk” is? The insurance companies? If we want a market based private industry gatekeeping our healthcare access, then this is what it looks like. The healthcare insurance industry will ALWAYS look for ways to exploit the gray areas and make money from it. That’s a feature, not a bug.
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Re: go fund me for a cold blooded murder?!?!?!
2024/12/13 10:10:43
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genieman77 you guys looking the other way, not caring are the flip side of the same putrid rotten coin as the religious zealots that look the other way when a deranged killer murders an abortion doc It's the same, only different beam me the f' up, Scotty ..KTF
Same in my book. I’m sure many like myself don’t condone vigilante justice to solve the issue and would rather it be handled through legislation and nonviolent means. But when these happened, I doubt many on the pro life side lost much sleep over it. Even some that likely gave to gofundme or other collections for the killers, which to me on both, is well beyond what I would do. It is completely in their right to share their belief that abortionists are baby killers, just as many consider some of these decision makers at these health insurance companies the same. To me, both are morally questionable professions to an extent. Most of the health care insurance industry are likely really good people that want to help others. Same to be said of most OBGYN healthcare staff. A bit of a difference to me at least of a OBGYN that provides legal services than one that is doing illegal late term. Just as a difference between a health insurance executive from a company that is very low percentage deny rates and doing their best to resolve issues and one that leverages financial ability to bankrupt people drawing claims out in court that clearly shouldn’t be denied. Not speaking specifically about this person.
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Re: go fund me for a cold blooded murder?!?!?!
2024/12/13 10:22:04
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MyWar
Again, not blaming Obamacare. Obviously many other issues prior. It solved some issues, but created others. Like you said, it is part of the gatekeeper type of system and finding the gray areas is a feature.
Unfortunately how today’s politics are, instead of all agreeing that murdering the CEO was wrong and so is how they operated business. Dems pick one side and GOP the other. Instead of having a real discussion on how things could be better, it will go down in history as another culture war topic.
There are some insurance companies that are low deny rates actually interested in the gratification of helping others and not 100% profit driven. Hopefully something like this shines light on those companies and they end up thriving and being the model for the future.
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MyWar
Are you condoning the actions of United healthcare? They went so far as to use AI algorithms to deny claims. I'll be glad to answer your questions when answer mine, Sweetheart
I think the people that live in this country should be subject to the rule of law, and it should apply fairly and equally to everyone. That includes vigilantes that commit pre-mediated murder as well as those individuals that tried to overthrow the government on January 6th. Donald Trump and Luigi Mangione should both be in jail.
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Re: go fund me for a cold blooded murder?!?!?!
2024/12/13 11:20:52
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Nice far left progressive TDS try there War--Trying to get Trump involved in this was sure to come from some poor lib soul sooner or later.
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