Leader to Flyline - Steelhead

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2008/02/08 14:16:07 (permalink)

Leader to Flyline - Steelhead

Does anyone use the braided loops on their flyline to attach the leader? I use them for trout, but worry that a steelhead would pull it off. If not, what/how do you attach your leaders?
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    SilverKype
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    RE: Leader to Flyline - Steelhead 2008/02/08 14:18:17 (permalink)
    Nail knot.
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    RE: Leader to Flyline - Steelhead 2008/02/08 14:41:24 (permalink)
    I use a nail knot to attach about 8-10" of red 30# amnesia to the fly line, connect leader to amnesia via barrel knot.
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    RE: Leader to Flyline - Steelhead 2008/02/08 15:45:16 (permalink)
    nail knot

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    RE: Leader to Flyline - Steelhead 2008/02/08 16:11:40 (permalink)
    Nail knot and the loops.Have not had a loop come off yet.
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    RE: Leader to Flyline - Steelhead 2008/02/08 16:27:14 (permalink)
    Nail knot.... Never had an issue with it...
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    RE: Leader to Flyline - Steelhead 2008/02/08 16:49:58 (permalink)
    Nail knot.
    Last flyline had a welded loop but started getting a hinge behind the loop so I cut it off and nail knotted the leader.

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    RE: Leader to Flyline - Steelhead 2008/02/08 16:57:38 (permalink)
    what Esox Hunter said
     
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    RE: Leader to Flyline - Steelhead 2008/02/08 18:59:52 (permalink)
    The braided loops will not come off. I've used them in salt and have had no problems. Nail knots are fine to use but some fly lines, the coating can strip off when pulled tight.
    I can't remember the name of the knot off hand but I use it for heavy duty fly fishing. You form a loop at the fly line and run the leader from the loop side to the main body of the line. You then wrap the leader over the loop 10 times and finish by placing the tag end back through the loop and tighten. These will not and do not come loose.
    ORIGINAL: Lipsticker2

    Does anyone use the braided loops on their flyline to attach the leader? I use them for trout, but worry that a steelhead would pull it off. If not, what/how do you attach your leaders?
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    RE: Leader to Flyline - Steelhead 2008/02/08 20:17:20 (permalink)
    salty that's called an albright knot.  that's a great knot but the nail is less bulk and goes through the eyes better
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    RE: Leader to Flyline - Steelhead 2008/02/08 20:47:42 (permalink)
    thanks, brain wasn't working to well this evening.
    ORIGINAL: RIZ

    salty that's called an albright knot.  that's a great knot but the nail is less bulk and goes through the eyes better
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    RE: Leader to Flyline - Steelhead 2008/02/08 22:02:56 (permalink)
    I nail knot a piece of haevy mono (like .025 or.026) to the end of my fly line then tie a perfection loop in the end and tie a perfection loop in the end of my leader. Then loop, swoop, and pull. Wait a minute thats not rightoh sorry thats to tie my shoes but you get the idea. Goes through the guides pretty well and you dont lose an inch or so of your fly line when you want to change a leader.

    I'm very familiar with the terms "RUN AND GUN" and "FISH ON!"

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    RE: Leader to Flyline - Steelhead 2008/02/08 23:44:27 (permalink)
    nail knot
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    RE: Leader to Flyline - Steelhead 2008/02/09 09:13:32 (permalink)
    nail knot
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    RE: Leader to Flyline - Steelhead 2008/02/09 10:59:32 (permalink)
    I also use the braided connection and have never had a trout, steelhead or tarpon pull one off yet.  I have pulled them off myself, but that was because I heated them too much and caused damage to the flyline coating.  If you use a heat source like a light bulb, that won't happen.

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    RE: Leader to Flyline - Steelhead 2008/02/09 12:32:20 (permalink)
    flyline with a nail knot to 10 lb flourocarbon then a swivel to 4lb flourocarbon
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    RE: Leader to Flyline - Steelhead 2008/02/10 10:59:23 (permalink)
    If youre REALLY worried about strength you can tie the bimini twist. Its the only knot in the world that is actually stronger then the line you make it out of. Most reserve that knot for salt.
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    RE: Leader to Flyline - Steelhead 2008/02/10 12:31:28 (permalink)
    But there still a connection to the line that they are talking about. The bimini is great as a part of the over all shock. Now you have to connect it to the line w/ a albright . It does form a large knot and as said earlier creates a problem w/ the line being reeled through the top guide if you choose to reel the leader that far in.
    ORIGINAL: jlh42581

    If youre REALLY worried about strength you can tie the bimini twist. Its the only knot in the world that is actually stronger then the line you make it out of. Most reserve that knot for salt.
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    RE: Leader to Flyline - Steelhead 2008/02/10 17:54:11 (permalink)
    I only use nail knots. They allow you to maintain the taper of you flyline/leader, therefore your casting loop is not affected.
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    RE: Leader to Flyline - Steelhead 2008/02/10 18:05:13 (permalink)
    I always say I'm going to nail knot my leader to my fly line but am worried about when I need a new leader. You lose an inch or more of fly line when you make a new nail knot. All you guys that use them, what do you do?

    I'm very familiar with the terms "RUN AND GUN" and "FISH ON!"

    "They're in here I can smell 'em"
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    RE: Leader to Flyline - Steelhead 2008/02/10 19:05:38 (permalink)
    On the end of the mono you attach to your line, tie a mono-loop or a perfection loop. Do the same on the butt end of your leader, then connect them. This way, you wont have to cutt any flyline off when you change your leader. It will also take less time.
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    RE: Leader to Flyline - Steelhead 2008/02/10 19:56:21 (permalink)
    I use a nail knot tool, you only have to waste about a half centimeter of ur line when u re-connect.  use some junk fly line to practice on but its so simple its ridiculous.  I'd seriously invest as the nail knot (for me anyways) presents a challenge to tie. 
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    RE: Leader to Flyline - Steelhead 2008/02/11 09:34:38 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: thedrake

    On the end of the mono you attach to your line, tie a mono-loop or a perfection loop. Do the same on the butt end of your leader, then connect them. This way, you wont have to cutt any flyline off when you change your leader. It will also take less time.

    That is what I currently have on all my rods. I just wanted something a little more streamlined as far as going through the guides. But I guess since I use cheaper fly line for my trout rod It shouldnt be a problem.

    I'm very familiar with the terms "RUN AND GUN" and "FISH ON!"

    "They're in here I can smell 'em"
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