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2016/03/02 20:56:46 (permalink)

Divers

Just got a set of in-line boards to add to my spread this year. Looking for some feedback on what kind of divers does everyone use off there in-line boards for walleye?

Trip Z, Tru Trip, Jet divers?

Anyone have problems with the trip not releasing? Find a certain size more effective/flexible? Find color to make a difference?

Any feedback is appreciated.
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    pikepredator2
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    Re: Divers 2016/03/03 01:54:17 (permalink)
    I run a pair of Church Tackle TX-44s Supers.  They advertise you can run Dipsy Divers off of them but I don't know, never tried.  I do know that I like I can run 10 color lead core off of them, but I don't like the fact that they don't spread far enough out from my boat due to the lead core, that's why I only run 1 off of each side.  Would like to run 2 sets, but like I said, mine won't track far enough out.  Could be wrong, but I really can't imagine trying to run a large size Dipsy off of one; a large size Dipsy will bend that rod a lot more that lead core will.   But then why would you want to run a diver on your boards when you have adjustable settings on your Dipsies to track them away from your boat?  I've never used them but maybe jet divers might be the way to go.  Even tho I love the Church Supers, I did have to purchase the tattle flag system separately.  I could never tell when a fish was on without it (probably due to the weight of the lead core).  On top of that, I had to replace the spring on the tattle flag with a much stouter one. 
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    pikepredator2
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    Re: Divers 2016/03/03 06:58:31 (permalink)
    Actually, I just thought of something here.  A large Dipsy set at 3 1/2 will help that inline planer board track farther out away from the boat.  My concern is the pull from the diver; is that line clamp strong enough to keep the line from slipping out?
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    Re: Divers 2016/03/03 09:44:44 (permalink)
    I use a mix of tru trips and jets depending on the situation.  If I could only run 1 diving device it would be a black or clear tru trip 40 for boards. By far the most versatile IMO.  The release on it is pretty nice, once you find the sweet spot no issues at all.  We have run these 20-30' behind an inline board for high fish, and up to 150' back off inlines to pull deep eyes or lakers off the bottom.
     
    Another option is running inline weights with worms.  You gotta run slower to do this as the faster you go the weight loses depth quick.  1.5mph is a good starting point.  Then a mix of 1,2,3oz weights will cover just about anywhere in the water column. This approach is popular in ohio and can be deadly for small boats. The other bonus is due to the slower speeds the walleye fight much harder.  They don't get drug in over the surface, they will dig down up til the boat. Its almost like controlled drift fishing for them.
     
    The inline weights is my go to anymore until the junk gets bad, once the junk moves in I switch to cranks and tru trips.
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    Re: Divers 2016/03/03 10:28:46 (permalink)
    Pike check out http://www.churchtackle.com/#!product/prd18/4378666295/tournament-series-upgrade-kit.
     
    I'm certainly a 'newbie' at planer boards, using the Church TX 12 on the smaller lakes in my little piece of the Pennsylvania Wilds and I find them to be a hoot to use.  
     
    Just looking at some new rod/reel combos trying to find/figure the best set up, including type of line.   I see Okuma recommends rod lengths in the 7 1/2' ML action for planer boards/dipsy/jet.  Braided vs Mono line is another consideration bouncing around in my senile little mind.
     
    I being a 'novice' with planer boards have wondered about the tracking also.  Seems like, the boards struggle to stay parallel with the boat, no matter what distance of line is payed out and I'm using 20 lb mono at the present time. I've adjusted boat speed as well as the angle of the line clamp on the board to no avail.
     
    My only other thought is the height of the rod tip from the water, which I didn't dare raise the rod past 45 degrees in fear of ripping my light weight rod holders from the gunnels.  Fixed that problem (hopefully) for the coming season and I'm thinking a 7 - 8 ft ML rod will give better height to keep the 'tow' portion of the line above the water and the ML action will better absorb the shock of the pull allowing for a near straight up rod.
     
    As for the flags, that's another story for another day but, the flags never signaled any "fish on" including a couple of fair sized cats. 
     
    My set up did not include a Dipsy or Jet but a worm harness on a 1/2 oz. bottom bouncer.  Only other lure was a floating Rap over shallow water and the planner pulled in the same manner.
     
    Looking forward to any and all (constructive) recommendations regarding rods, lines, etc. 

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    Re: Divers 2016/03/03 17:09:39 (permalink)
    I'm a big fan of K.I.S.S. philosophy, but I've yet to find the trolling application that a 7' med action ugly stik can't handle. when i'm running boards, I keep my rod tips up pretty high, and the farther my lead to the board, the higher the tip.
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    Re: Divers 2016/03/03 18:17:50 (permalink)
    Thanks SS, just getting started with planners, I chose a 6 1/2 ft. ugly ML I had coupled to a  bait caster spooled with 20 lb mono.  Mostly just toying around with the set-up to get some practice but, I sure plan on getting some use from the boards this coming year.  
     
    I doubt the Mini Boards I have will pull lead core but I am wondering if I shouldn't go with braided as the main line and Trilene for leaders.  Just wondering if the release might grip better providing a firmer hold on the main line.  With a flag system, I have two clips that must have a slack line in between.   While the mainline clip seems to hold, the slack gets pulled from between, by the drag of the lure, preventing the flag from 'popping up' on a strike.

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    Re: Divers 2016/03/03 19:39:32 (permalink)
    i prefer mono as my mainline for boards, for one, its easier to clip on, you don't have to make a loop.  and secondly, it has stretch, so the boards seem to run smoother than braid. i started out trolling using a lot of braid, but i pretty much only use it now on spinning rods for river and jig fishing  and dipsey/jet rods.  so, the line is slipping through the back clip?
     
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    Re: Divers 2016/03/03 20:00:58 (permalink)
    Yes it is, and maybe I just need to keep adding pressure with the adjustment screw but it seems like it's getting pretty darn tight and I'm waiting for that infamous "SNAP"!! (lol)

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    Re: Divers 2016/03/04 06:20:05 (permalink)
    I cant keep braid clipped to the inline boards. We only use braid for running the dipseys.
     
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    Re: Divers 2016/03/04 08:58:06 (permalink)
    BloodyHand
    I cant keep braid clipped to the inline boards. We only use braid for running the dipseys.
     
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    Thank you BH, I've not been a fan of braided but thought, I would spool a couple reels for the planer boards if it would make a difference.  I do pull Dipsy Divers but only in the limited 20 to 30 ft. water I find in my area lakes and now, I'm having fun with lead core too.

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    Re: Divers 2016/03/04 09:36:24 (permalink)
    Run braid on inlines all the time with no problem.  If it is a church board turn the front clip backward so it faces the board and the line cant slip out. Or loop it around the release twice.  For the offshores get the OR-18 release for the front.
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    Re: Divers 2016/03/04 11:55:51 (permalink)
    Braid slips in some rubber release pads. Loop a rubber band around the line where you want the release to go, then attach the release to the rubber band. (Or use mono)
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    Re: Divers 2016/03/04 14:56:10 (permalink)
    when I ran big boards I always looped a rubber band on the line and attached the release to the rubber band.  Never attached the release directly to the line.  The rubber band sort of acts like a snubber and were at times tough to break.  Just my preferred method.
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    Re: Divers 2016/03/04 15:04:57 (permalink)
      10-4 guyz, greatly appreciate the info, I dang near jumped out of the frying pan into the fire.  Thought for sure braid would have been a lot less problem.
     
    Unfortunately, the weather dude has changed the forecast for this coming Sunday and it looks like a wait and see situation sooooo........  I'm gonna go pout.
     
     
     
     
     
    But.........., Monday will be sunny and mid 50s followed by sun and 60s on Tuesday............. Oh happy days!
     

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