light through the ice

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2010/02/10 17:21:00 (permalink)

light through the ice

How important is the sunlight with regard to perch feeding? Does a heavy snow like this block out enough light to turn fish off? Would clearing snow from areas create hot spots?

Just a few things I pondered during the blizzard today. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Gonna head out tomorrow and didn't want to waste my time if it was gonna be dead.
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    imrinc
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    RE: light through the ice 2010/02/10 18:03:57 (permalink)
    I've caught 'both ways....

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    RE: light through the ice 2010/02/10 18:14:52 (permalink)
    it doesnt seem to matter either way. caught perch yesterday and so did others on glendale with 12+ inches of snow on the ice...
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    RE: light through the ice 2010/02/10 19:21:45 (permalink)
    Perch bite when they're hungry, not when they have enough/too much light. 

    On a side note, I'd almost rather have my mother-in-law stay for a week than fish an east wind. 








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    RE: light through the ice 2010/02/10 19:51:19 (permalink)
    Perch along with a bunch of other fish bit today with a lot of snow on the ice.

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    RE: light through the ice 2010/02/10 23:02:31 (permalink)
    depending on the color/quality of the ice and amount of snow, sometimes the snow can reflect the light so it is even brighter then just the sun
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    RE: light through the ice 2010/02/11 09:40:52 (permalink)
    ive been thinkin about this question.i remember reading somewhere that the bright sunlight brightens the snow, giving an illuminated back drop to the surface ice, this enables fish to see your bait falling from greater distances under the ice, attracting more fish to your bait, so the fish see the same as they would on a sunny summer day in clear water. sound good?
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    RE: light through the ice 2010/02/11 15:07:41 (permalink)
    Sounds good to me. Can they see me when I am having a beer? They always seem to bite best when I have one in my hand.
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    RE: light through the ice 2010/02/12 10:30:18 (permalink)
    fish can see in the dark.. which pretty much mutes the entire post..

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    RE: light through the ice 2010/02/15 09:38:02 (permalink)
    My minnow bucket has a plastic lid that I cut a slot in, for the air pump hose. I have a spare too. In shallow water, I put it over the hole to block light, and the line goes through the slot. The hole must be like a flood light, when seen from below. Does it matter? Maybe.
     
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    RE: light through the ice 2010/02/16 08:30:50 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: DaFuNK

    fish can see in the dark.. which pretty much mutes the entire post..


    Then why don't perch feed at night. Just because an animal can see in the dark, it doesn't mean it doesn't see better during the day(which is often the case). Plus if you're fishing shinners, the more light your bait is exposed to, the more of a flash you get. With a brighter flash your bait should be visable at greater distances.

    Granted it may not matter much, but if you just want to make my question seem pointless, perhaps maybe not post at all.
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    RE: light through the ice 2010/02/16 09:10:33 (permalink)
    Nothing is written in stone, but the brightest conditions, ie. clear water and bright sun (mid day) are not generally considered as good as the times of lower light, dawn and dusk. Some fish see better than others in the dark. Perch=poor, walleye=good. In the end, the fish have not read the "rules". After doing this for 50 years I can tell you that the fish don't care what I think. They continue to surprise and they do whatever they want.
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    RE: light through the ice 2010/02/16 09:42:32 (permalink)
    I was doing a little online reseach and came across this.
    http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/coarse-fishing-articles/specimen_perch_guide.html

    It is really informative. They don't specifically mention yellow perch, but I assume it applies at least somewhat. So I guess it's all about finding preferable feeding conditions regaurdless of the amount of snow. I would assume that a heavy snow may cause the fish to move though.
    post edited by dick bush - 2010/02/16 09:50:55
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    RE: light through the ice 2010/02/16 11:35:11 (permalink)
    perch do bite at night. i have never caught them succesfully at night in open water but if you have a flasher you can kill them through the ice in PI bay. the fish tend to school up very tightly at night and while the are not swimming the current in the bay moves them. its easy to check the current with a white line dropped down the hole. get slightly ahead of the school and its a circus when they get their. make sure you have enough bait and be ready for some questions from the erie police when you come off the ice.
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    RE: light through the ice 2010/02/16 16:56:04 (permalink)
    Yellow perch are physolistous as well so the bladder info does apply to all the percidae family (darters, logperch, yellow perch, blue pike and walleye) and the centrachids (sunfish, bass, etc.)

    Better too far back, than too far forward.
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    RE: light through the ice 2010/02/16 21:52:36 (permalink)
    I never had that much success for perch after dark maybe a few but they tend to shut off for me, even when using a vex. Some people I would say do have luck at night.
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    RE: light through the ice 2010/02/17 08:30:31 (permalink)
    I've never used artificial light to attract perch. The units I've seen are kinda pricey. Do they work during the day as well? How effective are they?
    post edited by dick bush - 2010/02/17 08:31:42
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    RE: light through the ice 2010/02/17 10:34:51 (permalink)
    try this,

    get a pickle jar, put a bunch of small holes in the lid and a little larger hole (about the size of a dime) in the center.

    get a piece of rope, thread it through the big center hole in the lid, and tie a knot in the rope on the "jar-side" underneath the lid.

    fill pickle-jar with water and put about a dozen minnies in the jar. Screw on the lid and lower it down in your hole.

    the "living" reflections of the minnies on the glass will make 12 minnows look like 30 minnows to the slabs...

    slabs will come from from hundreds of feet away to see what all the commotion is under your hole..

    this method works every time and has netted me buckets of fish..

    so now its out.. don't say I never did anything for anyone..

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    RE: light through the ice 2010/02/17 10:39:00 (permalink)
    so........you're saying we should have 2 different sized augers??lol

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    RE: light through the ice 2010/02/17 10:48:46 (permalink)
     Wowzer! I like that idea.
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    RE: light through the ice 2010/02/17 11:34:21 (permalink)
    I am definately trying that. That is bordering on brilliant. I bet if I throw in a couple of my home made decoys along with the jar it would like a party down there. Hell, I may even drop a couple glow stix down there too.

    Thanks for giving up a great secret like that.

    My old man was more about finding the fish, If I would have known half of what I know now(not to mention modern equipment), we might not have had to move around so much. Sometimes we spent more time moving around than fishing.
    post edited by dick bush - 2010/02/17 11:38:54
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    RE: light through the ice 2010/02/17 13:27:05 (permalink)
    Try a clear 2 liter bottle also....
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    RE: light through the ice 2010/02/19 07:28:20 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: djf127

    Try a clear 2 liter bottle also....


    glass reflects light much much better than clear plastic...

    reflection of the light is the key


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