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KJH807
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2009/08/08 21:47:15 (permalink)

Simple swinger set-by...

here is a basic step-by
I make things up as i go and tech is what i steal from others

*Feedback/suggestions are welcome*

AJ sz3 black hook
14/0 black
med silver tinsel
green floss
fine silver rib
seal sub
pheasant rump
Blue eared pheasant


Attach tinsel, floss, and rib
measure tag end to front of the hook, eleminates the uneven bulk at an atach point



advance tinsel
the tinsel is to give shine to the floss
without tinsel the floss would be direct on a black hook, and have a dull look
*my tinsel wraps are sloppy and tag is not flat*



advance floss
untwisting the floss makes a uniform body easier
advance rib




dub seal substitute



pick hackle
brown is pheasant rump
green is BEP



tie in hackle by tips
pull fibers back as you palmer forward
repeat as needed
i used 1 Brown and 1 green












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    norm289
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    RE: Simple swinger set-by... 2009/08/08 23:32:09 (permalink)
    Who cares if the tag and tinsel isn't perfect! The fish will still hit it. Good stuff kev. Love the green BEP. I'm jealous, I only have natural.....for now.
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    RE: Simple swinger set-by... 2009/08/14 22:44:47 (permalink)
    Good stuff Kev...gonna give it a try. I've been experimenting but my stuff comes out like ****... only been tieing for a little over a year so what I think is creative usually isn't.
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    RE: Simple swinger set-by... 2009/08/16 17:42:20 (permalink)
    looks real good kjh 46< needs a dozen lol

    I didn't say these are the ten suggestions
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    RE: Simple swinger set-by... 2009/08/16 22:11:16 (permalink)
    where do you get your materials at?
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    KJH807
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    RE: Simple swinger set-by... 2009/08/17 08:20:45 (permalink)
    most stuff will be at any fly shop
    fishusa carries the hooks, mylar tinsel, and rib
    sheer 14/0 thread is great stuff... strong with no bulk
    seal substitute dubbing was my choice... but you can use anything... i use it to keep the hackle from pressing flat
     
    phesant rump plumage is cheap on ebay
    BEP can get pricey... i had a guy send me 2doz to try
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    RE: Simple swinger set-by... 2009/08/17 11:49:20 (permalink)
    for the sake of not sounding stupid what is bep

    I didn't say these are the ten suggestions
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    KJH807
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    RE: Simple swinger set-by... 2009/08/17 12:05:19 (permalink)
    Blue eared pheasant... the green feather
    its a substitute for heron (illegal)
    long soft/non-webby fibers

    the regular golden pheasant... brown feather
    is much stiffer... reason for using it under, helps keep the green from pressing flat
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    RE: Simple swinger set-by... 2009/08/17 20:31:22 (permalink)
    Kev,nice job on this style of fly, lets see more.
    Here is a different approach of a spey type fly

    post edited by Flyguy638 - 2009/08/17 20:41:43
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    KJH807
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    RE: Simple swinger set-by... 2009/08/17 20:53:35 (permalink)
    very nice!

    what is the hackle/collar?
    rabbit?
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    RE: Simple swinger set-by... 2009/08/17 21:26:33 (permalink)
    Yep, spun dubbing loop
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    RE: Simple swinger set-by... 2009/08/17 21:42:23 (permalink)
    nice

    i am nowhere near ready to start thinking/fishing for steelhead
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    RE: Simple swinger set-by... 2009/08/18 10:14:52 (permalink)
    I like that fly alot, flyguy!
     
     
    ORIGINAL: KJH807

    i am nowhere near ready to start thinking/fishing for steelhead


     
    I was thinking about this last night.  6 weeks away from half decent fishing.  I got a bunch of stuff I want to spin up for early season, and I think I'm going to fail at having the flies I want to fish.  Will go with what I can get done, I guess.
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    RE: Simple swinger set-by... 2009/08/18 10:20:35 (permalink)
    those rabbits are my next thing to mess with!

    D- what are you looking to mess with?

    i don't see myself getting on an Erie trib until Nov... and that is pushing it
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    RE: Simple swinger set-by... 2009/08/18 10:25:17 (permalink)
    Well, thanks to fly guy, now I have to mess with rabbit spun in loops.
     
    I got a bunch of intruder type variations in color in my head.  Those things just swim so well it's ridiculous.
     
    And some random spey-ey type of flies.  I'm not even sure yet.  Just sick of yarn flies in general.
     
    A few of my loser friends don't tie, so I usually hook them up, to a certain extent.  They are going to be out of luck this year.
     
    Catt in October, 2 HanDr DuuD.
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    KJH807
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    RE: Simple swinger set-by... 2009/08/18 10:32:11 (permalink)
    i have a prior engagement in Oct...

    i started messing with some sculpin/rams wool and want to try a head on an intruder-style

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    RE: Simple swinger set-by... 2009/08/18 10:42:02 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: KJH807

    i have a prior engagement in Oct...


     
    Probably don't want to miss that one, eh?
     
     
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    RE: Simple swinger set-by... 2009/08/18 19:31:05 (permalink)
    Kev, I have worked with wool for quite sometime and think it adds to a fly's profile. Normally I tie it in similar to tying egg flies except I tie a piece on top and bottom at same time, a couple tight turns then pull back. One tech. I learned was to comb out the ram wool(while still on the hide), check it out. I may have a video clip tying this one
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    RE: Simple swinger set-by... 2009/08/18 20:31:23 (permalink)
    Found the video, shows how to with wool and how to with spinning rabbit. Hope you like it http://www.hatches.tv/play.php?vid=253
    post edited by Flyguy638 - 2009/08/18 20:39:39
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    RE: Simple swinger set-by... 2009/08/18 20:35:45 (permalink)
    very nice!

    i love to finish look and the tying latitude rams wool gives
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    RE: Simple swinger set-by... 2009/08/18 21:09:47 (permalink)
    Nice sculpin flyguy.
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    RE: Simple swinger set-by... 2009/08/22 13:00:56 (permalink)
    Really like your rabbit collared flies, That fly tied with an orange lite brite dubbed body and fl. yellow rabbit collar would be great for erie sthd.
     
    I really like rabbit for collars on erie sthd flies, mostly tubes.  Rather than use a dubbing loop for the rabbit collar I prefer to reverse tie it, fold it back over and tie it down. This forms a nice collar and I find it easier to "lock in" the fine rabbit hair this way.
     
    Arctic fox tail under fur also is great for sthd fly collars and I tie it in the same way as rabbit.
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    RE: Simple swinger set-by... 2009/08/22 21:39:23 (permalink)
    I may have posted this last year I dont remember, and I am to lazy to look. Here is one them steelhead like. I use spun Arctic Fox for the collar. Enjoy
     

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    RE: Simple swinger set-by... 2009/08/23 12:46:38 (permalink)
    Very attractive fly, no doubt that'll take erie sthd. Resembles several atlantic salmon shrimp flies that I have tied, Ally's shrimp and Ally's cascade just to name a couple.
     
    You should post that fly on the spey pages, bet the NS, NB  atlantic salmon guys would love it.
     
    Going to tie some cascades as tubes, yellow version and orange version, using arctic fox, for NY erie sthd. Will post them.
     
    The Ally's shrimp and the cascade are very highly regarded shrimp patterns in eastern Canada and I believe would be very good for erie sthd as well.
     
    Swinger, thanks for posting your "shrimp" and getting me intrested in trying this style fly  on the local "steelbows".
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    RE: Simple swinger set-by... 2009/09/02 05:30:39 (permalink)
    Here is one that may work too. Good Atlantic Salmon pattern in NB. Golden Pheasant Spey.


    Eric
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    RE: Simple swinger set-by... 2009/09/02 13:10:14 (permalink)
    Very nice looking shrimp, Swing it for erie sthd, bet it's a fish catcher.
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    RE: Simple swinger set-by... 2009/09/02 13:27:08 (permalink)
    nice tie eric

    good to see your still around

    hope things are well!
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    RE: Simple swinger set-by... 2009/09/04 18:33:43 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: DryflyTU

    Here is one that may work too. Good Atlantic Salmon pattern in NB. Golden Pheasant Spey.


    Eric


     
     
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