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some thoughts on the Elk creek bear. - 11/6/2009 6:50:15 PM   
steelheadfillet

 

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Status: offline 		I wonder if the bear really exists or just a ploy to scare people away.
If it does exist, will his presence affect angler pressure?

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RE: some thoughts on the Elk creek bear. - 11/6/2009 6:53:34 PM   
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RE: some thoughts on the Elk creek bear. - 11/6/2009 7:00:35 PM   
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RE: some thoughts on the Elk creek bear. - 11/6/2009 7:05:18 PM   
steelheadfillet

 

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Status: offline 		black bears attack and kill 10 times the people that brown/grizzly bears do.

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RE: some thoughts on the Elk creek bear. - 11/6/2009 8:04:32 PM   
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RE: some thoughts on the Elk creek bear. - 11/6/2009 8:52:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: steelheadfillet

black bears attack and kill 10 times the people that brown/grizzly bears do.


On the gun nut site I frequent they were discussing  suitable side arms for  emergency bear defense .
One fellow that claimed to be bear knowledgeable (grizz and black)  said  that if a male  Black bear attacks you, you're likely toast anyway...cause you won't know it til it's too late.
cause  he STALKED  you and intends to KILL and EAT you (gasp)


..L.T.A.

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RE: some thoughts on the Elk creek bear. - 11/6/2009 9:11:32 PM   
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RE: some thoughts on the Elk creek bear. - 11/6/2009 9:25:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: steelheadfillet

I wonder if the bear really exists or just a ploy to scare people away.
If it does exist, will his presence affect angler pressure?




It's real.....Trust me....

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RE: some thoughts on the Elk creek bear. - 11/6/2009 9:35:26 PM   
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i think we can now officially refer to this as Beargate.

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RE: some thoughts on the Elk creek bear. - 11/6/2009 9:42:22 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: steelheadfillet

I wonder if the bear really exists or just a ploy to scare people away.
If it does exist, will his presence affect angler pressure?




The bear is definitely real.  In fact, I hear one about the same size has been spotted at both 12 mile, and 20 mile creeks.  Maybe siblings?

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RE: some thoughts on the Elk creek bear. - 11/6/2009 9:42:30 PM   
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RE: some thoughts on the Elk creek bear. - 11/6/2009 9:43:39 PM   
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RE: some thoughts on the Elk creek bear. - 11/6/2009 9:46:28 PM   
FiveMilePete

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: genieman77

quote:

ORIGINAL: steelheadfillet

black bears attack and kill 10 times the people that brown/grizzly bears do.


On the gun nut site I frequent they were discussing  suitable side arms for  emergency bear defense .
One fellow that claimed to be bear knowledgeable (grizz and black)  said  that if a male  Black bear attacks you, you're likely toast anyway...cause you won't know it til it's too late.
cause  he STALKED  you and intends to KILL and EAT you (gasp)


..L.T.A.




I would think 44 magnum minimum. Nothing you want to be carrying while
fishing.

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RE: some thoughts on the Elk creek bear. - 11/6/2009 9:46:35 PM   
BIGSLICK


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RE: some thoughts on the Elk creek bear. - 11/6/2009 9:50:35 PM   
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RE: some thoughts on the Elk creek bear. - 11/6/2009 10:28:58 PM   
steelheadfillet

 

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RE: some thoughts on the Elk creek bear. - 11/6/2009 11:05:54 PM   
genieman77

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: FiveMilePete

quote:

ORIGINAL: genieman77

quote:

ORIGINAL: steelheadfillet

black bears attack and kill 10 times the people that brown/grizzly bears do.


On the gun nut site I frequent they were discussing  suitable side arms for  emergency bear defense .
One fellow that claimed to be bear knowledgeable (grizz and black)  said  that if a male  Black bear attacks you, you're likely toast anyway...cause you won't know it til it's too late.
cause  he STALKED  you and intends to KILL and EAT you (gasp)


..L.T.A.




I would think 44 magnum minimum. Nothing you want to be carrying while
fishing.


44mag "minimum", with heavy solid bullets for penetration ..not hollow points

and you better have nerves of steel while he's charging...cause even with a 44mag you need at least one shot to the brain box to stop him cold.
cause if he doesn't turn after a hit anywhere else,  he can still do serious damage to you with a broken shoulder or maul the crap out  of you long before he drowns  from a lung shot or bleeds out from mortal wounds

'least that's what I hear from the "bear duUds" anyway


..L.T.A.


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RE: some thoughts on the Elk creek bear. - 11/7/2009 12:09:33 AM   
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RE: some thoughts on the Elk creek bear. - 11/7/2009 12:29:59 AM   
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RE: some thoughts on the Elk creek bear. - 11/7/2009 7:40:27 AM   
ragadas

 

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Status: offline 		Due to the frequency of human-bear encounters, any hunters, fishermen, or persons that use the out-of-doors for a recreational or work related function are urged to take extra precautions while in the field.

Outdoorsmen are advised to wear little noisy bells on their clothing to as to give advance warning to any bears that might be close by so that you don't take them by surprise. A can of pepper spray should also be carried to ward off a possible bear attack.

Outdoorsmen should also be on the watch for recent bear activity and be able to tell the difference between black bear feces and grizzly bear feces.
Black bear feces is smaller and often contains remnants of berries and squirrel fur.
Grizzly bear **** contains little bells and smells like pepper.

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RE: some thoughts on the Elk creek bear. - 11/7/2009 8:10:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		If there was a bear spotted it would be all over the Erie news and I haven't heard a peep. So I highly doubt it's true.

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RE: some thoughts on the Elk creek bear. - 11/7/2009 8:22:00 AM   
steelheaders#1

 

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Status: offline 		If you spot a black bear throw it a fish and you have a friend for life! And where are the supposed blurry pictures someone took of it??? I am from Missouri show me!!!!

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RE: some thoughts on the Elk creek bear. - 11/7/2009 8:46:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		We went looking for the bear and the sign said "bear right" so we turned right. came to another sign that said "bear right" so we turned right again. then  we came to a sign "bear left", so we went home

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RE: some thoughts on the Elk creek bear. - 11/7/2009 10:42:42 AM   
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RE: some thoughts on the Elk creek bear. - 11/7/2009 11:25:37 AM   
steelheaders#1

 

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RE: some thoughts on the Elk creek bear. - 11/7/2009 11:42:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		The bears around here are not uncommon. I believe it was only a couple years ago, that we had a bear living along the lake front here in West County.

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RE: some thoughts on the Elk creek bear. - 11/7/2009 12:45:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: WaxWorm

If there was a bear spotted it would be all over the Erie news and I haven't heard a peep. So I highly doubt it's true.

I was at the RT 20 area on Monday and was told by two women that live there to be carefull as they had a LARGE bear in their yard that night and morning.As I went down to the creek a guy was leaving and he said he SAW the bear earlier.I hung around awhile and saw few fish and no bear but those women were not kidding me,I could tell they saw it.Both parties said it was large.

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RE: some thoughts on the Elk creek bear. - 11/7/2009 3:04:48 PM   
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all this talk of bears is f***ing ****... hasn't anyone ever seen a bear in the woods before


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RE: some thoughts on the Elk creek bear. - 11/7/2009 3:15:10 PM   
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RE: some thoughts on the Elk creek bear. - 11/7/2009 6:24:27 PM   
Rpgyard

 

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Status: offline 		Will this have anyone reconsidering strapping their stringer to them while walking down stream?  This is honestly the most ridiculous thing I see while fishing. 

I am considering using a clauser minnow with a stainless steel hook as self defense in case I do see a bear.  I am also going to launch a preemptive strike instead of waiting for it to attack.

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