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shotguns - 8/13/2008 12:53:38 PM

kill3ducks1deer

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i want an all around reliable shotgun for a reasonable price. what is a good shotgun for upland birds and waterfowl. i have an 835. is this a good gun. it doesnt shoulder right is there anyway to fix this it seems front heavy. any help would be nice thanks

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RE: shotguns - 8/14/2008 12:01:38 PM

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crossman model 760

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RE: shotguns - 8/14/2008 12:27:05 PM

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Ruger Red Label, Remington 1187, 1100 or 870 are what I use

Length of pull may be too long or stock might not have enough rise.
Try an aftermarket stock on your gun.
Go somewhere that sells stocks and see how it feels first.
My Ruger Sporting Clays Red Label fits me the best

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RE: shotguns - 8/15/2008 7:11:30 AM

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the 835 is fine so far as reliability and usability in the field. If it doesn't come up right, then I'd guess the stock is a little long for you. Any gunsmith can shorten a stock down. Measure the length of pull on your gun and try a few that are shorter in a gun shop. Don't be afraid to pull up a youth model to see if it fits. That will give you a good idea if a shorter length is what you need.

I'm going to guess that the gun has a 28" barrel. On the end of a 3" semi receiver, a 28" barrel sticks a long way out there. If you are holding the front stock by the back side very near the receiver, then you'll have a lot of gun in front of your front hand which will make it balance front heavy. A shorter barrel may help and I think they make 24" barrels for the 835.

The alternative is to look at a new gun. A double barrel (either sxs or O/U) will balance better in between your hands most of the time. A pump action forces you to hold the gun further out with your front hand (thus keeping the balance point between your hands). A lighter gauge gun (assuming yours is a 12) will have the same effect.

Give a few a try and see what fits you and feel good and what doesn't. Then figure out what made those guns work.

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RE: shotguns - 8/19/2008 8:18:47 AM

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i use a browning bps for both turkey and dux. have also an 870 wingmaster, but prefer one of my brownings.

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RE: shotguns - 9/6/2008 8:57:50 PM

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On my Mossberg 500, I have to reach out with myhand a lot longer to hold the front of the gun (a pump), than I do with my side by side. As others have stated, it may be that the stock is too long for you on your 835.

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RE: shotguns - 9/7/2008 11:29:11 AM

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I have an old Mossberg pump that used for dog training. If it needed to by laid on the ground, not matter the conditions, it didn't matter. The problem was, I couldn't hit anything with it. It didn't fit. I don't use it any more.

If you look at an object and thrown the shotgun to your face and it doesn't point reasonably close to that object, it doesn't fit, so put it back on the rack. A shotgun must fit as it hits the shoulder since they are pointed and not aimed (turkey hunting is the exception). If it doesn't, the misses will come.

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RE: shotguns - 9/30/2008 3:59:16 PM

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mossberg 500 slug gun is pretty wicked

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RE: shotguns - 10/1/2008 9:42:15 AM

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500's have killed a lot of game and almost every sportsman has one or has owned one. I personally own a couple. They are good shooters and until I was 22 years old, a 20 guage presentation model was all I ever used for upland game and a 12 field model was my deer and turkey gun. The only problem I ever had with 500's (as most people seem to) is that they don't have the best ejectors when shooting magnum loads and slugs. They are better than Winchester's ejection system which actually breaks (a piece of spring steel on the inside of the receiver), but they do not eject as cleanly as Remingtons seem to.

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RE: shotguns - 10/1/2008 1:38:21 PM

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A 12ga browning semi-auto...... Works like a charm.... I hunt with one and love it...

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RE: shotguns - 10/2/2008 6:03:01 AM

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I have a Winchester model 1300 deluxe witch I have owed for over 15 years and I have owed most brands mentioned above. And by far the Winchester has the best action a ever had on a pump gun. Shot well over a 1000 times and never had aynthing go wrong with the 1300. Every mossberg I ever shot had a very stiff and jerky action. But for the price i guess Mossbergs are not to bad. Browning's are pretty nice and so are the Remingtons but ill stick with my Winchester. BTW if any of you use a Winchester I have a couple riffled chokes i could sell. They work better than one would think. You have to shoot sabots with and at a 100 yards they will hit a 4 inch bullseye. tighter if you use a scope ofcoarse

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RE: shotguns - 10/2/2008 9:16:53 AM

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quote:

Winchester model 1300 deluxe

I forgot that I have one also
I have had it about 20 years and have let my dad use it for about the last 15.
It is a very nice and smooth action

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RE: shotguns - 10/2/2008 12:46:16 PM

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Winchester- smooth action, yes but I still dislike that piece of spring steel used as an ejector. I used to work in a gun shop, and 9 out of every 10 Winchester Pumps coming in would be to have that piece repaired. Probably the best all around pump ever made in my mind would be the Ithaca 37.

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RE: shotguns - 10/3/2008 4:59:07 AM

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Griffon; I must be lucky not to have that spring problem. But just incase how hard is it to replace? or is something a gunsmith needs to fix? A fiend of mine has a Ithaca 37 and you are right it is a very sweet piece. I have a old lefever double it's a real kicker A real monster kicker when both triggers are pulled a once.

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RE: shotguns - 10/5/2008 9:10:43 AM

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Bighead, You should be able to fix it on your own. Most people just didn't want to deal with the factory and getting parts, plus there is a fear that they might do more harm than good if they tried to fix it on their own.

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RE: shotguns - 10/13/2008 4:37:53 PM

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I have an 1187 Sporting Clays that shoots real nice...

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RE: shotguns - 10/17/2008 3:12:42 AM

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i use a ithaca model 37 20 guage i use had since i was 12 like it nice and light so i can walk all day with out worring about my gun being heavy

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RE: shotguns - 10/30/2008 11:06:55 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: griffon

Winchester- smooth action, yes but I still dislike that piece of spring steel used as an ejector. I used to work in a gun shop, and 9 out of every 10 Winchester Pumps coming in would be to have that piece repaired. Probably the best all around pump ever made in my mind would be the Ithaca 37.

Damn Right! I can't begin to tell you how much I miss my Ithaca 37 (stolen 2 years ago). 64' model year featherlite w/ 28" field barrel and 21" deeslayer slug barrel. Still have the 28" barrel and am looking for a replacement gun. I cannot seem to find one in A1 condition, but I am willing to pay $$$$ when I do indeed find one. Best handling pump gun I have ever had the pleasure to hunt. Solid, no-slop action that can't be found in a new pump today, plus ergonomically the gun just seemed to fit right.

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RE: shotguns - 10/30/2008 5:38:51 PM

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i got a Benelli sbe2..it is a great gun they are not cheap,,take a look at one

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i was at Cabelas in wheeling yesterday they have the gun you are looking for ..call ahead to see if it still there..i want one ..i had it in my hand yesterday..my buddy has a 16gauge

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RE: shotguns - 10/30/2008 6:24:33 PM

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Hunt, I am only looking at purchasing something in A1, and I mean A1 condition. Too many hacked up 37's out there. Did you handle the gun? Was the slide the "corncob" or later "squared" (much like an 870) slide? I have seen quite a few around, but most were beaten to death, or hacked up with scope mounts and such tapped into the magazine body. I'll give the firearms dept. a call as the store is about an hour 1/2 drive for me. Thanks for the info.

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RE: shotguns - 10/30/2008 6:33:21 PM

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Browning Silver Hunter semi-auto

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RE: shotguns - 11/7/2008 1:02:55 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: pghmarty

Ruger Red Label, Remington 1187, 1100 or 870 are what I use

Length of pull may be too long or stock might not have enough rise.
Try an aftermarket stock on your gun.
Go somewhere that sells stocks and see how it feels first.
My Ruger Sporting Clays Red Label fits me the best

I know that alot of people have problems with the Rem. 1100(Jamming out in the field) All around good semi is a browning.... Trust me you will not be disappointed if you go with a browning. I have been hunting with one for 7 years now and will never go back to a Remington..... Good Luck Finding a gun...

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RE: shotguns - 11/24/2008 8:36:47 PM

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I love the SBE1, and my buddy has the SBE2, wow, its even smoother then I had imagined.

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RE: shotguns - 11/25/2008 9:39:11 AM

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Browning gold 3 1/2 semi,truely a killing machine best goose gun there is,not to heavey not light,mounts sweet and has great follow through,retired the 1187 but still use it for turkeys.

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RE: shotguns - 11/25/2008 11:10:44 AM