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salmon ? - 8/8/2008 10:26:40 AM

powerun

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i have heard in the past that at the mouth of elk & walnut creek's .in aug. that some king's were caught . is there any truth to this ? or is it a gimmic of the local tackel shop's / hotel's to get angler's up to erie early. just was wondering. any input or oponion may be helpfull. as i said may be helpfull.

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RE: salmon ? - 8/8/2008 10:28:36 AM

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Coho's yes. Kings????? First I've heard of it

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RE: salmon ? - 8/8/2008 10:43:32 AM

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Every once in a while I think somoene catches a stray King this time of year. But they are very irregular catches from my knowledge.

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RE: salmon ? - 8/8/2008 10:46:58 AM

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Depends what "some" means. If you think you can go up there and catch some on every trip, you're mistaken, I don't care what ANYONE tells you. If you go up there and fish it a whole season, maybe two, and catch "some" then thats another story. Savvy?

Bottom line is that salmon, whether kings or coho, are rather uncommon in these parts of Erie. Yes, strays are caught, but as far as going up with the hopes of catching salmon, you have to be pretty lucky....tight lines.

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RE: salmon ? - 8/8/2008 10:50:33 AM

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The only person I recall catching "some" is Tim fishrmn

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RE: salmon ? - 8/8/2008 1:38:01 PM

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Heard from a very reliable source that a 23 lb. King was caught just this past weekend during the tournament, somewhere near the Canadian line. There are also reports of a few others being caught as well.

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RE: salmon ? - 8/8/2008 2:10:50 PM

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I am sure it was more common back when they were being stocked. Now days, there is some natural reproduction occurring so there is always the possibility of catching them in the lake. I am not sure about Canada, but on the US side, the biggest producer (I use the term biggest, loosely) in the eastern basin is the Cattaraugus. You can always count on seeing a handful of spawners each fall in the Catt. With such a small population, I would imagine inbreeding may become a problem and probably will eventually wipe them out (although, I am not a geneticist so I don’t know how detrimental inbreeding is to salmon other then maybe producing weaker, less fit progeny).

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RE: salmon ? - 8/8/2008 2:51:40 PM

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Once in a great blue moon I hear that someone caught one offshore early in the season however cant say that I ever saw one....other than the ones I would bring back from ny and take down to the marina and put on a stringer just to see people do a double take...that was always fun

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RE: salmon ? - 8/8/2008 3:02:49 PM

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quote:

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Heard from a very reliable source that a 23 lb. King was caught just this past weekend during the tournament, somewhere near the Canadian line. There are also reports of a few others being caught as well.

There was a small King caught in the open waters Friday before the tourney and a small King caught Saturday that I heard about. The 23 1/2# King was caught on the 27th of July.

Want Kings close...

Go to the Niagara River or Olcott/18 mile creek in NY in a few weeks.

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RE: salmon ? - 8/8/2008 3:34:24 PM

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I saw a Pink Salmon in 20 mile a few years ago -- wasn't very big, only about 3 - 4 pounds but that hump is unmistakable.

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RE: salmon ? - 8/8/2008 7:13:36 PM

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cohos rocked havent caught one since 2005 i think they quit stocking coho in 2002 i believe,

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RE: salmon ? - 8/8/2008 8:35:04 PM

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PA. used to stock salmon but the perch jerkers where complaining to much, saying they were eating all the perch..
Just what I heard 3rd or 4th handed .. The way the water temps. are I think they would all go to canada or new york anyway.... Live there for 4 or 5 years ...Then 1 out of 50 might make it back to pa waters...

MM

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RE: salmon ? - 8/8/2008 10:08:23 PM

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The only angler i know that catches kings and coho is Old Roy Mercer and thats no b.s. He getsum early in the fall and was a regular at KampKoho.

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RE: salmon ? - 8/9/2008 2:46:37 AM

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20 mile? On the PA/NY border gets a small run of humpies every other year.

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RE: salmon ? - 8/9/2008 3:21:04 AM

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Id like to just see one coho or king caught, Id really love to catch them sometime but its going to be tough for me to get to new york, Erie might even be a challenge with my car kicking the bucket very soon(rear main seal leak)

Maybe this year with the cooler temps and higher water levels then last year a few cohos might be caught in early fall but who knows what mother nature is going to bring.

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RE: salmon ? - 8/9/2008 9:22:50 AM

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Your in luck I can help a bit with both. First, I live in North East and watch the conditions on 20 Mile every morning. Second, I work at a car dearership in Meadville, Pa. Weber Harris Ford, Linc., Merc. Check out the site www.weberharris.com. Let me know if I can help.

Chris

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RE: salmon ? - 8/9/2008 12:46:59 PM

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I wish you could, but my credit is so bad its not even funny, credit cards killed me when i first got them.

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RE: salmon ? - 8/9/2008 1:07:23 PM

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I have been selling for * years now and we have a great finance dept. for those in need of secondary financing. There is always a chance that you can get into something better and rebuild your credit. The toll free # is 800-724-4657.

Chris

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RE: salmon ? - 8/9/2008 2:55:42 PM

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I've located pods of coho WAY up on a tributary in the same exact spot the past two seasons. This was in November and December. Last year I was only able to bring one to hand, (it was either late November or December) but there were several around.

I have never landed a King in the Lake Erie tributaries, however I have seen several dead ones around. Few and very far inbetween.

-Tim

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RE: salmon ? - 8/9/2008 11:23:09 PM

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yeah i caught my biggest coho 10lbs 8oz in dec 22 2001 and he was in great shape 31 in long 18in girth wish i had a digital but i only have it on film, i caught lots of coho in elk in the early 90s but by nov they were pretty much swimming fungus balls with fins lol but some were good, shape but FEW ,

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RE: salmon ? - 8/10/2008 12:21:30 AM

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I caught a Coho about five years ago.

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RE: salmon ? - 8/10/2008 4:19:13 AM

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I saw a King hooked in the chutes and landed in the Manchester hole on Walnut creek about 9 or 10 years ago. It was 14 pounds and I remember all of the locals saying how small it was for a King. It was early September.

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RE: salmon ? - 8/10/2008 11:49:19 AM

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My buddy caught a nice coho a few years back on Walnut. I never had such luck but very few are there. If you want kings or cohos go to the Salmon River in Pulaski, NY. It is always a great time.

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RE: salmon ? - 8/10/2008 4:01:10 PM

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Coho were more common than most thought until about 04 or 05? I didn't see any last year, and only a few the year before. I did see 1 chinook/king in elk. I've only seen about a dozen or them in PA over the last 15 years.

I don't know about the other parts of Lake Erie, but they are pretty tough to target in PA waters. As in, it would be something to say, I'm going to go out and catch a salmon today, then actually do it.

Pics of PA coho I've posted in the past in similar threads.

The last three were caught trolling the mouth of Elk in October 2003. There were tons of coho around that year. We fish for about 5 hours that day. We hooked around 25 fish, but only 4 or 5 were steelhead, the rest were coho.

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RE: salmon ? - 8/10/2008 4:23:48 PM

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It would be nice to see PA stock a few of these again...

Oh well, hopefully the BTs work out and we can all get a shot at a few footballs in the years to come.

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RE: salmon ? - 8/10/2008 5:49:56 PM

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Has anyone else had a dream about steel? Last night I dreamt I was at elk, using my fly rod. I can't wait.

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RE: salmon ? - 8/10/2008 7:34:25 PM

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It would be nice to see them again, doubt it will happen though. Not complaining really, I'm quite happy with what we've got now. But coho are cool.

Haven't had any dreams about steel, but I have tied several hundred flies and jigs in the last few days. I've got paint on my shirt, dubbing stuck in my beard, and a little fluffy of marabou stuck up my nose that I inhaled, it's not coming out, just keep sneezing.

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RE: salmon ? - 8/10/2008 8:12:54 PM

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Last year when all the steel was stacked in the access at Elk when it was low, i arrived the day we got the much needed rain it was non stop action. I hooked into a huge fish that i knew was something very big. A fellow avid steel header that was their beside me said that he saw the fish cause it crashed into his legs, And lone behold it was a King My very first if that, A gentleman went to land the fish about after a 5 min fight i seen the fish like 4 times as it broke water everyone was saying o my god, when i finally got it into the bank he went to net it and popped it off so will never know how big it exactly was but one guy that fishes steel everyday said it was about 20 - 25 lbs have no idea but i all i knew it was big and wish i would have beached the monster. And it hit a pink egg sack ! But that's my first ever king, i did get 5- 6 cohos last year 2 on upper Elk and couple outta walnut. But out of 45 trips to the tribs that not saying that much.

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RE: salmon ? - 8/10/2008 9:06:37 PM

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i remember back in 93 my early days of elk creek steelheading i always seen and caught several up past mckean some males were cool lookin reddish bars and brassy sides they have a affliction for pink marabou atleast for me. stillhead cool pics i wish i was computer smart enough to figure a way to post some pics of cohos from days gone back but they are all om 35mm film if anyone knows how please pm mee thanx koke

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RE: salmon ? - 8/10/2008 11:03:30 PM

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kokanee,

Do you hae prints of the pictures you want to post up? I have a pretty decent scanner. Not sure about negatives to digital, I'm sure it can be done.

I am confident that many of us would like to see them

Let me know,
Brent

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