dimebrite
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well same applies for private property as does for DSR. you can float through, but you can't anchor or step foot on the river bed because all private parcels own either half way through the river or all the way across. now. that is not all properties that are river front though. i myself happen to own over 900 feet of river front on one side of the river. i actually own in to the middle of the river. but, it is in my deed that there is a bank walking easement within 30 feet from the river bank. also, i have a conservation easement that extends even further in to my property that the DEC patrols and walks through most of the year. this was all put in to my deed before closing. i didn't bother arguing it. i'm sure if i did, i could've gotten somewhere with it. i don't mind the bank walking easement, but i don't really prefer the conservation easement. i mean it's good intentions and all, but there's no way you can build back there as it is, and i would never try. but i do mind the DEC walking my property and invading my privacy. and now with the headquarters being set up at the old portly angler building, i'm sure they are going to be around a lot more. they are actually starting to put up property stakes and traverse points to mark state land. i border state land, and their markers conflict with mine. and guess what. it's in their favor. let's put it this way, i don't lose sleep over it, but it is a little annoying. i'd just hate to see the day when they say that they want to build some type of access camp or facility on my prop. that's when i would step in and say what happened to the quote on quote conservation easement. i will say though, it is pretty special back on my prop. it's a prime winterizing lie for steelies, and there are feeder trickles that come in that host native spawners. sometimes i get a little annoyed when i go to fish back theree and there is someone fishing where i'd like to, but like i said, i don't lose sleep over it. the best was when i went back there this past salmon season with my 2.5 year old son. i was walking the bank with him and there were a few guys fishing back there. i didn't have waders on so when i got to a certain point everybody kept telling me i couldn't get any further without waders. i just smiled and played along with it. hey, you gotta play dumb sometimes... it actually can be fun at times... i was just wondering what they thought of me pulling up on a yamaha rhino. did they think i was lost or something...tight lines, and always remember, these fish run the ENTIRE river. so don't get discouraged by the private prop. put your time in and you will be rewarded.... but remember, people who own on the river and have owned for a long time, most likely don't have the bank walking easement in their deed. so they can do and say whatever they want with it. and if you think about it, can you really blame them??? I'm sure most people put in their position would do the same. would you want everyone and their long lost cousin parading through your backyard... littering, hollaring, fighting... just think about it for a minute...the only advice i have for anyone is be respectful when fishing the river and do not, i repeat do not litter. because believe it or not, it's litter that pushed a lot of these property owners over the edge. i know i opened up a can of worms here and many might disagree or get annoyed by some of what i said, but i believe i have an honest opinion and post. once again.. tight lines to all
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. 2)When I say over run I mean that literally. On any given day during salmon season you can find 10-20 people a day where they have no right to be. 3) They curse me the land owner, I find people 100 - 200 yards away from the stream or in the yard . I will simply ask them what part of posted property didn't they understand and I get the same stupid answers..."I didn't see the 20 posted signs I just walked past"...."I dont have boots I didn't want to get my feet wet".... "My fish is too heavy to drag back up stream".... "We don't have posted signs in (pick 1) Jersey, Pa, Conn, Vermont". "If you didn't want trespassers you shouldn't have bought land with a steam on it"..... "I bought a fishing license, I can fish were I want! You people should be great full we are in your dumpy town spending money" I can go on and on about the lame excuses., They are told to leave... cross over to the public side and they are very nasty defensive....4) I do have people arrested... but you gotta be realistic... My local DEC guys are great... But in the height of salmon season they cant baby sit my land....They do go undercover for the snaggers etc.. but there is a lot of area that time of year they gotta cover... When I get a real as*&**e I call the DEC, they arrest... (I dont even need a pic just their vehicle plate # . There is only one place to park for that section of creek ) Some day I will have had enough of the morons and sell it to some commercial developer who will make a DSR Jr out of it. Which is sad...it is family owned since the 1870'S
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