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Warning to Anyone using Lampe Launch - 6/13/2008 10:41:49 PM   
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Went down to check on boat @ Lampe today. The State Police, Border Patrol, Conservation Guys, and Erie Police were there Stopping and checking all trailered boats for trailer registrations and weight limits. Boats were also being looked over and checked. Just a heads up to have all your paper work etc. in order to avoid unnecessary hassles.
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RE: Warning to Anyone using Lampe Launch - 6/13/2008 10:44:28 PM   
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Oh yeah. They are handing out fines not warnings...

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RE: Warning to Anyone using Lampe Launch - 6/14/2008 12:05:22 AM   
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Those guys were still there tonight during the storm  They told me they will be there all weekend

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RE: Warning to Anyone using Lampe Launch - 6/14/2008 12:19:18 AM   
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Were they at least being professional? I dont mind the law enforcement as long as they dont have a power trip

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RE: Warning to Anyone using Lampe Launch - 6/14/2008 12:25:58 AM   
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Actually they were great  My One of my trailer lights was out and he just told me about   I talked to them for about 10 minutes......

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RE: Warning to Anyone using Lampe Launch - 6/14/2008 6:35:19 AM   
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Was at Walnut last night 2 PSP and a WCO. The state was flying their helicopter real low. Thought there was a manhunt going on.

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RE: Warning to Anyone using Lampe Launch - 6/14/2008 9:09:29 AM   
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what were they checking in regards to the weight limits, are you talking boat capacity limits or trailer limits? thanks

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RE: Warning to Anyone using Lampe Launch - 6/14/2008 6:28:00 PM   
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They are checking EVERYTHING!  The INS, Border Patrol, State Police, and Fish Commission will be at all public launches in Pennsylvania on Lake Erie throughout the weekend.  They are doing some sort of training session.

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RE: Warning to Anyone using Lampe Launch - 6/14/2008 6:31:28 PM   
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They are hitting it hard out at North East too.

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RE: Warning to Anyone using Lampe Launch - 6/14/2008 6:41:26 PM   
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There only looking out for your best interest.

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RE: Warning to Anyone using Lampe Launch - 6/14/2008 9:42:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: STEALYS4ME

There only looking out for your best interest.
Only looking out for our best intrest? You must be young, probably have been indoctrinated by our Socialist public school systems or that you are in law enforcement. The apathy for our freedoms does not seem to matter any more. I suppose that if our nanny govt. decided to launch marshal law it would be only for our best intrest? My papers are always up to date, I always obey all laws. I am a busy person with little time so when I get time to fish I just want TO BE LEFT ALONE....not go through their line up to get revenue and to show us the sheeple who is boss. These people are public servants not gods. Oh and what does I.N.S have to do with if my trailer is overloaded? And dont write back about black helicopters because that is crap. From the sound of it there was one there not black though. You cannot be ignorant and also be free. 

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RE: Warning to Anyone using Lampe Launch - 6/14/2008 10:23:10 PM   
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he and his father by their own admission on this site are on welfare. they have all the time in the world as hard working taxpayers are supporting them. they dont work so time is not of the essence to them.

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RE: Warning to Anyone using Lampe Launch - 6/15/2008 7:25:27 AM   
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quote:

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There only looking out for your best interest.



Bullshat, they are only looking out for their balance sheet, Its much easier to harass working people than to actually get off their fat asses and look for real criminals, more profitable too

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RE: Warning to Anyone using Lampe Launch - 6/15/2008 8:32:56 AM   
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Muddogaug is absolutely right.
It is harrassment.  When I wanna fish, leave me alone unless you see a violation.  Everytime I run into the fish authorities it always starts out the same. "how you doing"?  "Catch any fish" ? then the real bomb-----------Can I see your life jackets, license"?

I also have noticed how easy it is for folks to accept infringements upon thier time when they are just trying to relax.  As a society, we must deserve this treatment beccause we like our community to be enriched by the ever broadening encroachment into our privacy. 

Didn't mean to rant, but good lord, how far into hell in a handbasket can we get?

Someone once said, "no one is as dumb as all of us together"

K-I'm done.

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RE: Warning to Anyone using Lampe Launch - 6/15/2008 8:52:44 AM   
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It is going to get much worse before it gets better.

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RE: Warning to Anyone using Lampe Launch - 6/15/2008 12:14:51 PM   
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Does the same hold true for DUI check points that are set up ?????

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RE: Warning to Anyone using Lampe Launch - 6/15/2008 12:25:29 PM   
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Gentlemen,
    It is the responsibility of the appropriate authorities to make sure that EVERYONE is following the laws and obeying the rules when boating.  And what better place to do so than at the ramp.  That way they won't pull up beside you while you are busy reeling in that 27 pound largemouth bass.  (or that 10 oz. sunny)
     Think of the times there have been extended rants on this very board about abuses of the system that you have seen and the question was always asked  "Why wasn't there a fish cop around?"  Well, there they are.  I heard that they were specifically looking for certain individuals who were WAAAAYYY exceeding the limits for certain species of fish.  And the fact that these certain individuals might be foreign born got the immigration people involved.
     So, you can bitch all you want or look at it as a "state inspection", take the extra 15 minutes, and go and enjoy your fishing secure in the knowledge that you are 100% correct.  But I would ask that they provide me with a piece of paper that verified the fact that I had been checked to avoid future frustration.  They do have a job to do.  And doing their job requires them to intrude into your business for a brief spell.  Look at it as a free service; you get a free boat inspection!  (down here in KY that usually costs 100 bucks at a boat dealer)

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RE: Warning to Anyone using Lampe Launch - 6/15/2008 3:21:24 PM   
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You have way more faith in the government than I do.  You erode a little bit of freedom at a time and it's more digestable I reckon.  May as well call all our rights a privelage, then you can take them away.  I don't want a free boat inspection.  I think dumb people that don't pay attention to safety deserve what they get.  Those are my 15 minutes, please leave them alone.  I only have so many of them left in life.

I understand the original intent of these inspections, but the road to hell is paved with good intentions. 

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RE: Warning to Anyone using Lampe Launch - 6/15/2008 4:36:44 PM   
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dumb people that dont pay attention to saftey do deserve what they get, but what about everyone else on the road and lake?  do innocent drivers and by-standers deserve to pay (sometimes with their lives) because a couple knuckleheads want to cut corners or save a couple of  minutes?  

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RE: Warning to Anyone using Lampe Launch - 6/16/2008 8:20:29 AM   
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I guess we could cover all the bases and make it mandatory to have a licenced guide in each boat.
Mandatory escorts when we get in our vehicles.  Let's outlaw gun ownership, what's the harm in that?  I mean just think of the lives we could save.  Everyone has thier own idea of what's good for society.

Ive seen guys propose that cell phones ought to be mandatory when hunting in case you get hurt.  Thier reasoning was it "might" save your life and that there really was no good reason for not owning one.  (must think we can all afford that monthly fee)  How about the baiting law?  If the neighbor places a bushel of apples on the border of your property, the game commission can effectively shut down hunting in a 500 yard radious of the bait site.  So I can't hunt my land now because of some Knucklehead.

Imminent domain...on and on and on....

This really is a never ending debate.  I just wanted to point out how easy it is for everyone to relinquish thier freedoms a little at a time.  In the end, we will all be living in a very cramped, tight fishbowl asking for permission to go to the bathroom.

I'm really a very easy going guy...  : )

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RE: Warning to Anyone using Lampe Launch - 6/16/2008 8:46:11 AM   
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quote:

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Gentlemen,
It is the responsibility of the appropriate authorities to make sure that EVERYONE is following the laws and obeying the rules when boating.  And what better place to do so than at the ramp.  That way they won't pull up beside you while you are busy reeling in that 27 pound largemouth bass.  (or that 10 oz. sunny)
  Think of the times there have been extended rants on this very board about abuses of the system that you have seen and the question was always asked  "Why wasn't there a fish cop around?"  Well, there they are.  I heard that they were specifically looking for certain individuals who were WAAAAYYY exceeding the limits for certain species of fish.  And the fact that these certain individuals might be foreign born got the immigration people involved.
  So, you can bitch all you want or look at it as a "state inspection", take the extra 15 minutes, and go and enjoy your fishing secure in the knowledge that you are 100% correct.  But I would ask that they provide me with a piece of paper that verified the fact that I had been checked to avoid future frustration.  They do have a job to do.  And doing their job requires them to intrude into your business for a brief spell.  Look at it as a free service; you get a free boat inspection!  (down here in KY that usually costs 100 bucks at a boat dealer)


While yes this can be true...Ive been stopped 2 times in one weekend to look at my fire extinguisher (which i might add is brand new and i have 2 of them)....I even let them know about it.  Best bet is if everything you have is legit.  Tell the officer you want your window sticker ensuring that you were checked and that everything on your boat was up to par.  After all you are taking your "free time" up spending it with them...they least they can do is fill out a sheet and process it in thanks for your kindness, patience, and willingness to participate in their hunt for bad boaters.......

I have also been checked and once they see the throwable and life vests they are great.  Alot of these guys aren't out there to ruin your day...just make sure your being safe.  If your trailer is not inspected and you are in an accident...who is to blame??  Its no longer an accident...its pretty much all on you...Trailer inspection costs $29 bucks each year..

What they should be doing is going after the guys who are running make shift charters out there without a license and proper USCG safety equipment.

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RE: Warning to Anyone using Lampe Launch - 6/16/2008 8:50:44 AM   
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I've always thought DUI checkpoints were like a police state. They stop you and ask you questions, not because of what you are doing, but because you are there. I don't think our forefathers would have put up with that kind of infringement on their liberty or their privacy.

And to make it even worse the number of drunk drivers they catch is very small. They could probably take more off the road by just sitting on the side of the road watching for erratic or dangerous drivers.

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RE: Warning to Anyone using Lampe Launch - 6/16/2008 9:23:15 AM   
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trailer inspection?? I've never heard of this please elaborate

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RE: Warning to Anyone using Lampe Launch - 6/16/2008 12:22:00 PM   
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I'm not sure of the weight, but at a certain weight your trailer is required to have brakes and an annual inspection. In PA if it is a tandem axle trailer both axles must be braked. And anything over 80" has to have the light in the center as well, even have one in the middle of the tailgate on my dually. Oh and don't forget that it's illegal to drive over 55 while pulling a trailer in PA. Personally, I don't have a problem with the inspection, other than mine runs out when the snow is still on the ground, at least you get everything checked out thoroughly once a year.

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RE: Warning to Anyone using Lampe Launch - 6/16/2008 12:22:19 PM   
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§ 175.130. Inspection procedure.  (a)  External inspection. An external inspection of a trailer over 3,000 pounds registered gross weight shall be performed as follows:    (1)  Verify the ownership and legality. For the purpose of this subchapter, ownership and legality shall be proven by a vehicle registration card, certificate of title or manufacturer’s statement of origin. Reject if one or more of the following apply:      (i)   When vehicle ownership and legality are demonstrated by presentation of certificate of title or manufacturer’s statement of origin:        (A)   The VIN is not in agreement with the vehicle registration card, title or manufacturer’s statement of origin. Exception: If only one digit is incorrect or two digits are transposed, and the owner provides evidence that the appropriate Department form has been completed to correct an error or transposition.        (B)   The VIN plate is not securely fastened or is defaced, misplaced or missing.      (ii)   When vehicle ownership and legality are demonstrated by presentation of vehicle registration card:        (A)   The license plate is not in agreement with the numbers on the vehicle registration card. Exception: If only one digit is incorrect or two digits are transposed, and the owner provides evidence that the appropriate Department form has been completed to correct error or transposition.        (B)   The license plate is hanging loosely from its mounting bracket.        (C)   The license plate is obscured so that the numbers cannot be identified.        (D)   The license plate lamp, if so equipped, does not illuminate the license plate.      (iii)   A registered vehicle only, if any of the following apply:        (A)   The license plate is not in agreement with the number on the registration certificate. Exception: If only one digit is incorrect or two digits are transposed, and the owner provides evidence that the appropriate department form has been completed to correct error or transposition.        (B)   The license plate is hanging loosely from its mounting bracket.        (C)   The license plate is obscured so that the numbers cannot be identified.        (D)   The license plate lamp, if so equipped, does not illuminate the license plate.    (2)  Check the glazing and reject if any of the following apply:      (i)   Approved safety glazing or rigid plastic is not used in every window or wing except in house trailers.      (ii)   The glass or rigid plastic is shattered or broken or has sharp edges.      (iii)   A trailer designed for passengers does not have safety glazing or rigid plastic.    (3)  Check door operation, including the tailgate and reject if one or more of the following apply:      (i)   The doors are not on the vehicle if originally fitted by manufacturer.      (ii)   The doors, including the tailgate, cannot be closed securely.      (iii)   Tailgate or equivalent is not on the vehicle, unless removed for the addition of optional equipment that is present at the time of inspection.    (4)  Check the lamps and lenses and reject if one or more of the following apply:      (i)   An exterior bulb or sealed beam, if originally equipped or installed, fails to light properly, except ornamental lights.      (ii)   The turn signal lamps do not flash between 60—120 flashes per minute.      (iii)   The turn signal lamps do not properly indicate right or left when so switched.      (iv)   The back-up lamps do not turn off automatically when the vehicle goes forward.      (v)   The lamp shows a color contrary to law as specified in lighting chart—Tables II—IV (relating to required motor vehicle lighting equipment; location of required equipment; and required motor vehicle lighting equipment).      (vi)   A lamp or filament indicated at the switch position does not light when the correct switch indicates the lamp should be on.      (vii)   A lamp has a missing or broken lens.      (viii)   A required lamp is missing.      (ix)   Auxiliary equipment is placed on, in or in front of a lamp.      (x)   Detachable electrical connections are not contained in the cable or cables or entirely within a substantially constructed protection device.  (b)  Internal inspection. An internal inspection of a trailer over 3,000 pounds registered gross weight shall be performed as follows. Check the flooring and reject if any of the following apply:      (i)   The flooring and floor beds are not in a condition to support cargo.      (ii)   On passenger-carrying trailers, reject if any of the following apply:        (A)   The flooring and floor beds are not substantially constructed to support occupants and cargo. The floor pan is rusted through to cause hazard to occupants or to permit exhaust gases to enter passenger compartment.        (B)   The step well or floor is cluttered or worn so as to present tripping hazard.        (C)   The guard rails or grab rails are loose or fastening parts are missing.        (D)   The emergency exit is not easily accessible.        (E)   The inside or outside quick release mechanism on emergency doors or windows on passenger-carrying trailer fail to function properly or open accidently.  (c)  Beneath the vehicle inspection. A beneath the vehicle inspection of a trailer over 3,000 pounds registered gross weight shall be performed as follows:    (1)  Inspect the tires and wheels and reject if one or more of the following apply:      (i)   Any tire has two adjacent treads with less than 2/32-inch tread remaining at any point.      (ii)   The tire is worn so that tread wear indicators contact road in any two adjacent grooves.      (iii)   Part of the ply or cord is exposed.      (iv)   A tire has been repaired with blow-out patch or boot.      (v)   There is a bump, bulge or separation.      (vi)   A tire is marked ‘‘not for highway use,’’ ‘‘for racing purposes only’’ or ‘‘unsafe for highway use,’’ or has any similar designation.      (vii)   There are other conditions or markings reasonably believed to render tire unsafe for highway use.      (viii)   A tire has been regrooved or recut below original tread design depth.      (ix)   A tire extends beyond the outer edge of the wheel housing or exceeds the manufacturer’s specifications as to size.      (x)   Tires on same axle are not the same size or type of construction—bias, belted or radial.      (xi)   The wheel nuts or bolts are missing or loose or have improper thread engagement.      (xii)   The stud or bolt holes are worn out of round.      (xiii)   Part of the wheel is bent, cracked, welded or damaged so as to affect safe operation of vehicle.      (xiv)   Studded tires are in use after April 15 and before November 1.      (xv)   The diameter of duals is not within 3/8 inch of each other.      (xvi)   An axle has missing tires or rims.    (2)  Inspect the vehicle frame and reject if one or more of the following apply:      (i)   The vehicle frame is not in solid condition.      (ii)   A repair is made with tape, tar paper or cloth, or is made in another temporary manner.      (iii)   The frame components are missing, cracked, rotted, broken or in deteriorated or dangerous condition.      (iv)   There is no rear end protrusion which is within 24 inches of the rear of the trailer and within 30 inches of the ground and within 18 inches of each side.      (v)   Torn metal or other loose or dislocated parts protrude from the surface of body.      (vi)   The tailgate or doors are broken or sagging so that the doors cannot be tightly closed.      (vii)   The landing gear parts are broken or missing and the gear is not operating properly.      (viii)   The rear wheel shields or mudflaps are not mounted properly. Every trailer must be equipped with rear wheel shields to bar water or other substances thrown from rear wheels at tangents exceeding 22 1/2 degrees, measured from road surface, from passing in straight line to rear.      (ix)   The king pin has excessive wear.      (x)   There are cracks in the contact area on the fifth wheel plate.      (xi)   An adjustable axle assembly has locking pins missing or not engaged.      (xii)   A torsion bar spring is broken.      (xiii)   A part of a torque, radius or tracking component assembly or a part used for attaching the same to the vehicle frame or axle is cracked, loose, broken or missing. This subparagraph does not apply to loose bushings in torque or track rods.    (3)  Inspect the braking system.      (i)   Reject if one or more of the following apply:        (A)   The bonded linings are less than 2/32 inch at the thinnest point.        (B)   The riveted linings are less than 1/32 inch above the rivet head at the thinnest point.        (C)   The lining on a semitrailer is less than 5/16 inch at the center of the shoe.        (D)   The lining is broken; not firmly attached to the shoe; or contaminated with oil, grease or another substance that would affect proper brake operation.        (E)   There are substantial cracks on the friction surface of a drum extending to an open edge.        (F)   There is wear to such an extent that the brake cam is on end or the cam has turned over.        (G)   The brake shoe rollers are worn and flattened so as to interfere with brake operation.        (H)   The air chamber push rod travel exceeds maximum stroke allowance. See Chart 4 (relating to brake chamber push rod travel (typical)) for a drawing of the air chamber push rod.        (I)   The hydraulic hoses or tubing leaks; is flattened, restricted, insecurely fastened or improperly retained; or has exposed cords.        (J)   The brake hoses, lines or tubing is leaking, chaffed, restricted, crimped, cracked or broken.        (K)   The surge brake system is leaking.        (L)   There is leaking in the lines or cylinders, reservoirs, hydraulic, vacuum or air brake systems.        (M)   There is no control from the cab of the towing vehicle.        (N)   The brakes are not equalized to stop the vehicle from swerving when tested in combination with the trailer.        (O)   The brakes fail to apply automatically on disconnection with the tractor.        (P)   The surge brake system is defective.        (Q)   The maximum amperage on the electric brakes is more than 20% above or more than 30% below the brake manufacturers’ maximum current rating.        (R)   All wheels are not equipped with brakes.        (S)   The drums are scored deeper than .060 inch.        (T)   The brake hoses bulge or swell under application of pressure.        (U)   The connecting hoses are improperly joined; for example, a splice made by sliding the hose ends over a piece of tubing and clamping the hose to the tube.      (ii)   The brake lining from one side of each axle shall be examined.    (4)  Inspect the air suspension system and reject if the system is leaking or deflated.  (d)  Road test. Perform a road test of a trailer over 3,000 pounds registered gross weight and reject if the vehicle is not capable of stopping within the maximum stopping distance prescribed in Table I or swerves so that any part leaves the 12-foot lane.
Authority    The provisions of this §  175.130 amended under the Vehicle Code, 75 Pa.C.S. § §  4103, 4301, 4501, 4521, 4702 and 6103.
Source    The provisions of this §  175.130 adopted October 29, 1982, effective February 1, 1983, 12 Pa.B. 3862; corrected November 12, 1982, effective February 1, 1983, 12 Pa.B. 3947; amended February 1, 1983, effective February 1, 1983, 13 Pa.B. 708, except subsection (c)(1)(ix), effectiveness of which has been indefinitely postponed until further notice, to the extent that these portions of the regulations prohibit placement of oversize tires that remain within the body line of vehicles and require the rejection of inspected vehicles equipped with these tires; readopted December 2, 1988, effective December 3, 1988, 18 Pa.B. 5362; amended December 24, 1992, effective December 26, 1992, 22 Pa.B. 6120; amended February 18, 1994, effective February 19, 1994, 24 Pa.B. 962; amended November 13, 1998, effective May 13, 1999, 28 Pa.B. 5670. Immediately preceding text appears at serial pages (221282) to (221287).
Cross References    This section cited in 67 Pa. Code §  175.123 (relating to braking systems); 67 Pa. Code §  175.124 (relating to tires and wheels); 67 Pa. Code §  175.125 (relating to lighting and electrical systems); 67 Pa. Code §  175.127 (relating to body); 67 Pa. Code §  175.128 (relating to chassis); 67 Pa. Code §  175.203 (relating to braking systems); 67 Pa. Code §  175.206 (relating to glazing); 67 Pa. Code §  175.207 (relating to mirrors); and 67 Pa. Code §  175.208 (relating to body).



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RE: Warning to Anyone using Lampe Launch - 6/16/2008 12:28:21 PM   
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Its 3500lbs...If you have breaks your trailer is to be inspected each year.....

Breaks working on EVERY axel, all working lights, tires in good shape...pretty much sums it up.  They put a sticker on the trailer and there ya go...

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RE: Warning to Anyone using Lampe Launch - 6/16/2008 4:35:35 PM   
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Unless you are trying to get a title for your trailer, then you must sign  over your first born.

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RE: Warning to Anyone using Lampe Launch - 6/16/2008 8:22:00 PM   
peacymike

 

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yes commander where looking for you .me and steal after you big time watch your ass where out in full force to look for guy's like you . we got the paper,s   on  you now  the law,s going to get you big time. we play game,s on here to get the dead beats. and your one of them  ha ha ha ha ha ha ha your done

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RE: Warning to Anyone using Lampe Launch - 6/16/2008 8:47:23 PM   
gobyking

 

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Anyway.
        CarpetBagger,if you have a dual axle do you need to have both of them with surge brakes?That would seem like overkill.

P.S. If anyone is attempting to buy a boat trailer from another state and they don't check to see if the serial number or capacity plate are on the trailer,expect to jump through multiple hoops in a circle pulling your hair out within this states silly laws.Some are only there to justify someone's red tape shuffling job.I had to call a state trooper to try to get an old boat I owned titled(even though I had the title from VA in hand),only to find out I need to submit a form declaring it to be a homemade trailer and have the trooper sign off on it,even though it had the same name on the trailer as it did on the boat,minus the plate.My other option was to file something with the prothonotary(I think that's what he said) so that my trailer situation could be put before a judge who I would plead my case to just to get a PA title for the trailer.I didn't take that route,sounded like even more of a headache.Funny how most states you can just take your titles to a DMV without bringing the boat with you and they don't give you a big hassle.

Yes,all the agencies have a job to do and I understand that,but most of the titling laws for boats and trailers in PA are laborsome for residents.

< Message edited by gobyking -- 6/16/2008 8:56:48 PM >

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RE: Warning to Anyone using Lampe Launch - 6/16/2008 8:54:29 PM   
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I have a question pertaining to trailer brakes. I see in section 3 "Inspecting the brakes subsection R says reject if: R) All wheels are not equipped with brakes. 

I know of several people with tandem axle trailers that only have brakes on 1 axle and they passed inspection. Am I correct that this is a mistake?

Next question: If the manufacturer, who obviously knows the GVW rating of the trailer, has determined that brakes on one axle is sufficient to stop the trailer why would we need them on "all wheels"?

Next question: Is Pa the only state that requires that all wheels have brakes?

Last question: Have those of you with two axles and one set of brakes added the second set and if so what did it cost?    

OK... one more: If the answers to questions 1, 2, & 3 are yes.... does that mean that Pa is a communist state? Answer: YES!

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