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RE: garden growing - 6/18/2008 9:57:25 PM   
Big Tuna

 

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Status: offline 		My Tomatoes75 plants, hot peppers64 plants,and eggplant 24 plants are growing slow,but picked and froze several heads of broc 18 plants,and cabbage24 plants is heading{soon I'll be picking),spouts look great,and my red leaf lettuce has huge heads,just like the Giant Eagle,going to plant 35 late tomatoe plants this week,a row of zuc's and cuc's and some more egg plant,and leaving a row for my late cabbage that I plant around the first week in july,also going to plant a row of swiss chard,my plants are about 3 inches high now and about ready to plant.I've got to spray more fungicides but it keeps raining every freakin day.

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RE: garden growing - 6/19/2008 12:37:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Anyone know the secret for growing pepper plants? Every year I plant them they yellow and die. Everything else grows great except  the dang peppers. I don't know if I need to add something to the soil or give them something else.

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RE: garden growing - 6/19/2008 2:59:15 PM   
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Anyone know the secret for growing pepper plants? Every year I plant them they yellow and die. Everything else grows great except  the dang peppers. I don't know if I need to add something to the soil or give them something else.

I thing yellowing is too much water or not enough iron-I might be wrong on this.

I grow mine in planters and hanging baskets in a bag of manure mixed with a bag of topsoil.
Light spray of Miracle Grow once a week.

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RE: garden growing - 6/19/2008 4:39:41 PM   
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Status: online 		I don't know if it'll help you now, but when I plant my peppers I put three or four match heads in the bottom of the hole. Peppers are sulfur loving plants. Also throw some fish guts in the hole.

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RE: garden growing - 6/21/2008 11:56:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Highgear,you might have bacterial leaf spot,its in your soil,try not to splash soil on your plant,use a soaker hose to water,do not start your seeds in your garden soil,use a soiless mix of sterial soil and buy quallity seeds screened for bacterial leaf spot,spray your plants weekly from tranplants,with copper base fungiacides,like mancozeb,maneb,dithane.Crop rotation helps,don't plant them the same place every year.I have major early blight problems on my tomatoes every year but spray with above fungiacides weekly and have a good crop every year. hope this helps.

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RE: garden growing - 6/23/2008 2:44:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks Guys. I'll give it a try and let you know what happens. I

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RE: garden growing - 6/23/2008 9:53:03 PM   
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RE: garden growing - 6/23/2008 10:04:00 PM   
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Highgear,you might have bacterial leaf spot,its in your soil,try not to splash soil on your plant,use a soaker hose to water,do not start your seeds in your garden soil,use a soiless mix of sterial soil and buy quallity seeds screened for bacterial leaf spot,spray your plants weekly from tranplants,with copper base fungiacides,like mancozeb,maneb,dithane.Crop rotation helps,don't plant them the same place every year.I have major early blight problems on my tomatoes every year but spray with above fungiacides weekly and have a good crop every year. hope this helps.



How in this weather do you keep them from getting this?

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RE: garden growing - 6/23/2008 10:15:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		not much you can do, try to keep removing the bottom leaves, especially if they start to turn yellow. 

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RE: garden growing - 6/26/2008 6:43:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Mikastorm,this year with all the cloudy damp days with all the humidity,its going to be tough but all a can say,it spray like hell,I'm going to up my fungicide program to a higher dose and spray twice a week.

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RE: garden growing - 6/26/2008 6:56:44 PM   
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Status: online 		When I start to get black spots on my tomato plants, I put a couple of tablespoons of bleach in a 2.5 gallon watering can and pour all over plants (pick off spotted leaves first!). Seems to take care of it for me...... Doesn't work for pumkin fungus though.

Slugs are out and about. Time to put the beer out. I don't know what does it but every couple days the tuna cans are empty of beer and dead slugs. Whatever it is has a cast iron constitution. That stuff is nasty!

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RE: garden growing - 6/27/2008 9:25:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Over the Hill ,Pumpkins,zuc's and cukes get powdery mildew,spray for it,the damp muggy nights really spawn it.

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RE: garden growing - 6/27/2008 10:18:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		I,ll have to give the beer a try. Heard that really works.
Do you get the spray bottle or powder for the fungis?

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RE: garden growing - 6/28/2008 1:56:04 PM   
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RE: garden growing - 6/28/2008 5:23:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		you folks are awesome.  this is my second garden and i have learned more here than anywhere.  thanks for sharing your knowledge.  

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RE: garden growing - 6/28/2008 6:08:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		What kind of peppers are we talking about? If its bell peppers and you want to get a yellow or red pepper I always thought you leave the green ones grow longer but thats not the case. They make a gourmet variety that goes right to the color of choice . They have a great taste to them. I just use your regular bell pepper variety for other things and use them as soon as the size is fine. I know too much weather change from hot to rain hot to rain makes them tend to vein up. So far this year mine are doing great though, Knock on wood.

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RE: garden growing - 6/28/2008 6:57:05 PM   
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Status: online 		If you can't get enough egg shells, try sand. That's what I use and an 80lb bag costs next to nothing. Either way just till it in at the end of the year. Doesnt hurt a thing. If you have clay soil the sand helps break it up.

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RE: garden growing - 6/29/2008 5:54:42 PM   
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Status: online 		Big Tuna, "Over the Hill ,Pumpkins,zuc's and cukes get powdery mildew,spray for it,the damp muggy nights really spawn it."

Big Tuna, my cukes, white gourds, and zuc's were ok-no fungus amongust. Only within the past 2 years, the pumpkins, regular jack-o-lantern type, got the mildew. Got a couple of pumpkins but most blossoms fell off or the fruit rotted on the vine.

Do you know of a good spray you could recommend? I never had to use it before, but, this year is very damp and prime condition for it to grow again.


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Egg shells work best for slugs and you don't waste a good brew.


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Slip, I never heard of using egg shells. Do you crack them up and put around the perimeter? As far as wasting brew, I donate my last swig to the garden

I heard that putting copper flashing (little expensive!) as a border around gardens, flower beds, plant containers etc... will repel slugs also.


"If you can't get enough egg shells, try sand. That's what I use and an 80lb bag costs next to nothing. Either way just till it in at the end of the year. Doesnt hurt a thing. If you have clay soil the sand helps break it up." -jackq

Jackq, I have raised beds and put loads of sand in to break up the soil when I made them. Didn't phase the slugs.

Sticking with the beer. Gives me a good excuse to tell the better half.
The slugs drank all the beer! 







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RE: garden growing - 6/29/2008 7:57:34 PM   
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RE: garden growing - 6/29/2008 8:02:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		removed the lower leaves on my peppers over the last week and have noticed a difference.  now i have something chewing on my pole beans and have a yellow leaf or two.  any ideas.

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RE: garden growing - 6/29/2008 8:40:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Pinched the top off my tomatoes so they fill out more. Don,t know if its the rain or what but they are getting high .

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RE: garden growing - 6/29/2008 9:09:54 PM   
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Status: online 		Thanks Jack. Make a barrier out of the sand... Didn't try that. The guy at Agway told me about a certain type of soil that you can buy that has ground glass in it. Forget the name but he said it was co$tly. The slugs would crawl over it and cut through the slime on them and cut them up. Sounds like your way of using sand could do the same thing or could it be the salt residue in the sand that repels them?

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RE: garden growing - 6/29/2008 9:45:46 PM   
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Pinched the top off my tomatoes so they fill out more. Don,t know if its the rain or what but they are getting high .
    Mikastorm, How do you determine at what height to pinch off the tops. Every year I plant about a doz. tomatos & they seem to get too tall & too bushy,but I get a good crop, I think. It just seems to me that I am wasting too much plant energy growing extra leaves. I use Miracle grow once a week, seems to work fine,but I am by no means a gardener.  thanks   sam

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RE: garden growing - 6/30/2008 12:53:54 AM   
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Make a barrier out of the sand... Didn't try that. The guy at Agway told me about a certain type of soil that you can buy that has ground glass in it. Forget the name but he said it was co$tly


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RE: garden growing - 6/30/2008 6:56:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Mr., if you are getting more stem than branches , then snip the very top off. This causes more branches. Continue to do this all season. You end up with more fruit.

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RE: garden growing - 6/30/2008 9:29:09 AM   
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Mr., if you are getting more stem than branches , then snip the very top off. This causes more branches. Continue to do this all season. You end up with more fruit.
Mikastorm,Like I said I don't consider myself a gardener & may be worrying about nothing since everyone remarks about how good my plants look. Actualy I think that they get too tall & bushy for the amount of fruit that they produce Do you pinch off suckers also?  thanks  sam

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RE: garden growing - 6/30/2008 9:49:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		On a perfect tomato plant, every leaf basks in the sun. When the leaves fill with sugar, leaf stems begin to branch off from the main stem. Still, all parts of the plant bask in the sun. Eventually the leaf stems fill with sugar and begin to flower. Tomatoes begin to grow, enjoying a healthy flow of sugar. But when tomatoes begin to form on the leaf stems, the plant produces side-shoots, which appear between the main stem and the tomato-bearing leaf stem. This creates two problems.The first problem is that every new growth diverts sugar. So now the growing tomatoes are only enjoying a portion of the healthy sugar available. The results of limiting the growing tomato’s resources are they will be smaller and less tasty. The second problem is that side-shoots suck up sugar to produce a mass of unworthy leaves that block leaves that would otherwise produce gorgeous, plump tomatoes. Left alone, the side-shoots will become leaf stems, which will bear more side-shoots. This process continues until your tomato plants are dense, unruly and unsightly underachievers.Think of a side-shoot like a parasite. It happily shares your nutrients, gets stronger and grows, but it also causes you to be less productive while it feeds on your goods.
First, decide how many fruit-bearing leaf stems you want your plants to have. (Pruning is much about having a vision.) Each of your main leaf stems will bear flowers and fruit, but make sure they are all at least one foot from the ground. Any lower and the fruit or leaves will touch the dirt, attract bugs and slugs, and you will be left with rotten tomatoes. Throughout your tomato plant’s life you should remove any side-shoots that are below your lowest flowering-leaf stem.The best time to remove side-shoots is when they are about 3 to 4 inches long. Plants can be pruned with your fingers. Simply peel the side-shoots back and snap them off.


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RE: garden growing - 6/30/2008 11:42:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks, That is what is happening to my plants. Although I get good results I am sure that it will be better if I get more aggresive pruning.   sam

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RE: garden growing - 6/30/2008 12:41:32 PM   
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Before you go crazy pruning you should know if your plants are determinate or indeterminate. Plum or Roma or Italian,whatever you'd like to call them are determinate(they'll only grow so high)and shouldn't really be pruned. You'll lose alot of your harvest. Indeterminates...well that's a different story, do as your heart desires.

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RE: garden growing - 6/30/2008 12:52:52 PM   
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mr crappie,
Before you go crazy pruning you should know if your plants are determinate or indeterminate. Plum or Roma or Italian,whatever you'd like to call them are determinate(they'll only grow so high)and shouldn't really be pruned. You'll lose alot of your harvest. Indeterminates...well that's a different story, do as your heart desires.
   jackq, Intresting.I am not somuch concerned about the height as I am the bushyness as I think the extra foilage blocks the other plants sunshine. I probably have them too close together due to lack of space. After I think that I got as many flowers as I am going to get,I start to prune. Thanks   sam

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