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salmotrutta -> Green Drake Pattern Help (5/1/2008 11:49:32 PM)
So I'm planning on fishing the Green Drakes this year. What flies do you vets use if you don't mind me asking. *Feel free to offer me some, fish with me or just throw pics. up of your flies**

Lochswa -> RE: Green Drake Pattern Help (5/2/2008 2:33:46 AM)
Havent had the pleasure yet of fishing and Green drakes in Pa. Fished em on Henrys Fork of the Snake, Yellowstone and the Frying Pan though. I will have to look and find the style/name for ya. I was lucky the one day on Henrys. Some unlucky chap lost his fly holder on his vest full of green drake flys that lasted me for a bit! http://www.charliesflyboxinc.com/flybox/detail.cfm

jlh42581 -> RE: Green Drake Pattern Help (5/2/2008 6:36:54 AM)
Youre best off to fish emergers or nymphs. Everyone flocks for the spinner fall but if you watch, most fish are not eating the spinnners.

salmotrutta -> RE: Green Drake Pattern Help (5/2/2008 10:51:07 AM)
So what are some patterns? I made up a couple of duns that may work. Just trying to be prepared.

SilverKype -> RE: Green Drake Pattern Help (5/2/2008 11:03:13 AM)
Where you fishin' Sal? Penns?

salmotrutta -> RE: Green Drake Pattern Help (5/2/2008 12:50:01 PM)
I guess so. I fished it once before (kinda). I was lost most of the time. Being that I'm off till Aug. I want to hit the hatches that the shift work doesn't really allow for. Feel free to offer up advice.

SilverKype -> RE: Green Drake Pattern Help (5/2/2008 11:07:10 PM)
Best advice is to have a box full of sulphers and grax fox. Maybe a few slate drakes. You may run into the situation where the green drakes cover the water but the fish do not touch them. Or there are so many bugs, yours may not get singled out. The drakes are more white than green. Size 10.

jlh42581 -> RE: Green Drake Pattern Help (5/3/2008 11:38:35 AM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li-ruygxyJ8 Thats one AWESOME drake nymph. Tail is osterich Body is chicabou - Wrapped Mid Section Chickabou Wingcase, Turkey Dubbing Loop is beaver or some other short fur

thedrake -> RE: Green Drake Pattern Help (5/3/2008 8:10:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lochswa Havent had the pleasure yet of fishing and Green drakes in Pa. Fished em on Henrys Fork of the Snake, Yellowstone and the Frying Pan though. I will have to look and find the style/name for ya. I was lucky the one day on Henrys. Some unlucky chap lost his fly holder on his vest full of green drake flys that lasted me for a bit! http://www.charliesflyboxinc.com/flybox/detail.cfm The green drakes you fished out west are a completely different mayfly than our eastern drakes. I would bet you fished the Drunella doddsii. We have the Ephemera guttalata. I know a few guys who have fished the drunella's out west. I hear its quite a hatch.

thedrake -> RE: Green Drake Pattern Help (5/3/2008 8:12:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlh42581 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li-ruygxyJ8 Thats one AWESOME drake nymph. Tail is osterich Body is chicabou - Wrapped Mid Section Chickabou Wingcase, Turkey Dubbing Loop is beaver or some other short fur Thats a pretty sweet looking nymph, but its too dark for an eastern green drake nymph. Ours are much lighter in color.

Pamuddler -> RE: Green Drake Pattern Help (5/3/2008 10:23:58 PM)
Sal are you going to fish before or after dark? Some of the anglers that follow the green drakes fish large dry flies after dark.The female can be about 2" long on Penns and quite smaller on Fishing Creek

Lochswa -> RE: Green Drake Pattern Help (5/4/2008 6:27:45 AM)
Yeah I figured they were a bit different. Like I said havent had the chance to ever fish any in PA because they dont come off anywhere close to where I live. I was always advised to use a Black Copper John as well which I see is completely different as well[:-] I do remember emergers were the ticket on several occasions as well. If my memory is correct it was on overcast days when the nymphs took longer to change to the dun stage.

salmotrutta -> RE: Green Drake Pattern Help (5/4/2008 11:21:51 AM)
I don't know. I plan to get there early & play it by ear. I'll fish whenever....

doubletaper -> RE: Green Drake Pattern Help (5/5/2008 12:23:38 AM)
a couple of years ago while fishing on kettle during a wild wind storm the green drakes were blowing across the tops of the water. i tied on a #12 poly-wing emerger and continually picked off rainbows. the drakes were the only thing on the water at the time so i could only speculate they took it for an emerger. hook; 3x long curved hook thread; black tail; ringneck pheasant tail barbs. (tie in the tail and use the rest for the abdomen) abdomen; ringneck pheasent tail barbs rib; copper wire (tie the rib on after the tail, wrap the abdomen and then wrap the rib over top.) wing; white poly yarn or calf tail tied upright parachute style thorax; peacock herl tied behind and in front of wing legs; brown hackle wrapped parachute style around wing. wingcase; i don't use one but the pattern calls for ringneck pheasent tail barbs folded forward around the para. wing and under the brown hackle. i tie these now in smaller sizes and they work for other emergers at times also. i don't leave home without it!

salmotrutta -> RE: Green Drake Pattern Help (5/5/2008 8:11:18 AM)
Right on. Thanks!

nut -> RE: Green Drake Pattern Help (5/6/2008 6:50:34 AM)
the july 2008 issue of fly fisherman magazine has some patterns for tying drakes.

doubletaper -> RE: Green Drake Pattern Help (5/6/2008 10:25:05 AM)
nut, you beat mt to it about fly fishermen mag! silverkype makes a good point, unless the drakes are skipping across the top i have no luck drifting a green drake or a slate drake for that matter. i'll resort to the other hatches. ~dt

salmotrutta -> RE: Green Drake Pattern Help (5/6/2008 11:46:58 PM)
Ok. I'll just wing it when the time comes.

griffon -> RE: Green Drake Pattern Help (5/7/2008 12:43:56 PM)
Agreed with the above... to a point. Case in point, ly we fished the Elk down in WV. The green drakes were THE hatch going on with a few red quills scattered in between. Those fish would not touch a drake, but put a #16 quill on the water and look out, because every trout in the pool wanted to take a shot at it. On the other hand, on certain PA and NY streams I absolutely love the Green Drake hatch and when they come off, the big boys put on the feed bag. I really believe that the green drake hatch is one of the best times for a person to truly have a crack at a 10lb.+ trout on a dry fly in a wild setting. The second hatch that I would fish every chance I could get is when the Giant Perla Stones come off. If nothing else, these hatches expose the lairs of some of the true giants that streams hold, and worse case scenario is that you go back on a different day and chase those denizens with another tactic.

salmotrutta -> RE: Green Drake Pattern Help (5/8/2008 1:28:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: griffon Agreed with the above... to a point. Case in point, ly we fished the Elk down in WV. The green drakes were THE hatch going on with a few red quills scattered in between. Those fish would not touch a drake, but put a #16 quill on the water and look out, because every trout in the pool wanted to take a shot at it. On the other hand, on certain PA and NY streams I absolutely love the Green Drake hatch and when they come off, the big boys put on the feed bag. I really believe that the green drake hatch is one of the best times for a person to truly have a crack at a 10lb.+ trout on a dry fly in a wild setting. The second hatch that I would fish every chance I could get is when the Giant Perla Stones come off. If nothing else, these hatches expose the lairs of some of the true giants that streams hold, and worse case scenario is that you go back on a different day and chase those denizens with another tactic. Great Post. [sm=beerchug.gif]

Lochswa -> RE: Green Drake Pattern Help (5/8/2008 2:25:34 AM)
Whats giant perla stone? Like a salmonfly?

SilverKype -> RE: Green Drake Pattern Help (6/5/2008 1:40:16 PM)
Sal- If you're thinking of going to Penns, soon would be good timing. I'd wait until Sunday. The creek is high now, but it drops quickly. Because of the extreme heat predicted, after dark would likely be a must.

dealinsteel -> RE: Green Drake Pattern Help (6/6/2008 8:14:34 AM)
and take caddis and sulphurs!! Don't go expecting the fish to totally be keyed in on drakes right away, it takes them a little while, and some of the best fishing I've experienced has been on these other patterns waiting for the spinner falls Perla stones are size 4-6 approx 1 1/2" long, dark brown and black, and they definitely get the big fish goin too... Flip a few rocks and if you see em, fish em!!

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