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casts_by_fly -> RE: Baitcaster (5/14/2008 10:01:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mikelravy

That still leaves the question open as to why anyone would want to use 6lb line on a baitcaster.  I just can't see it.



mikelravy,

My dad gets tennis elbow in his right elbow really bad from working 25 years of construction.  A spinning rod makes it alot worse as he holds a spinning rod in his right arm.  I built him a really light bait caster and put a chronarch on it 2 years ago so he could fish unweighted tubes and light finesse lures that he'd normally only be able to fish on a spinning rod.  The rod is spooled with 8 lb, but could as easily handle 6.  It will throw 3/8 oz lures on the top end and I wouldn't put more than 10-12 lb test on it.  It also throw's the little rattletraps and cranks well.

That's what you want a light bait caster for.

Thanks,
Rick



BigOlPigs -> RE: Baitcaster (5/14/2008 1:32:26 PM)

Ordered a rod/reel combo from Bass Pro.  This is it.  < Hope the link worked.  It's a Quantum KVD series.  They are on sale right now.  It was $160 in the catalog but they are going for $140 online for rod and reel.  Can't wait to get it and start landing them BIG OL PIGS!  Thanks for all the info guys.  I think alot of people shy away from baitcasters because they don't know enough or don't want to learn but just reading this thread would help them out.  Thanks again!



cuchef -> RE: Baitcaster (5/17/2008 4:28:24 PM)

I used to fish strictly baitcasting reels.  I learned when I was a kid...my father was a patient man.  I remember quantum marketing an ultra-light baitcasting reel for line weights 2-6 pounds.  I don't think that there was much of a draw for them, I havn't seen them since.  This would have been in the early nineties. You said you flyfish, imagine a fly reel with a really piss poor drag system with a lot of start up inertia that sheds line when a fish runs.  That is what you are trying to avoid and essentially cause every time you cast a baitcasting reel.  Do with your thumb when casting a baitcasting rod what you do with your palm when a fish is stripping line with a fly rig only use your thumb and not the palm of your hand.  Hope that helps.
Ryan

Just thought of something else.  When learning I had that spool tension pretty tight that got the basics and timing of spooling down.  I still got backlashes though not as severe.  Over time I used little to no spool tension all done with the thumb.  This increased casting distance.



dozer -> RE: Baitcaster (5/29/2008 8:47:47 AM)

dont try to cast a a cross a lake ,it dont work. sit in a chair an push the button,watch the line  an use the thunb i learned on the old casting reels. you can  cast worms an light stuff on casting reals .but it takes a little time 



The Sack -> RE: Baitcaster (6/3/2008 8:46:55 PM)

This is a little late BigOlPigs, but Cabellas has a special on the Quantum Energy PT baitcaster reels if you buy it online...$99.00. It is usually $189.00. I don't think you could get a better reel for that price. The tour edition is also marked down from $259 to $139. I have 2 of these as well and love them as well.



STEELYS MANFISH -> RE: Baitcaster (6/5/2008 12:32:20 PM)

checked out the sale on quantum energy pt baitcaster. al the 6.3:1 are sold out. why is that? there still are 7.0:1 reels left. If I understand this correctly I will get seven revolutions of the spool to 1 crank. Is this to fast for lures? Are they not good? I have a 6.6 ugly stic med action. can I use this 7.0:1 on this rod. advantages vs disadvantages. i am currently using a dick's special that only cost me 40 for the rod and reel which is also a baitcaster. Am beginning to get the feel for casting and have been catching bass with it. any help would be appreciated. I realize I asked alot of questions. any info would help. Basically Im just wondering why everyone prefers the 6.3:1 and what would be appropriate on the ugly stick.



plnoldrick -> RE: Baitcaster (6/5/2008 3:35:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: STEELYS MANFISH

checked out the sale on quantum energy pt baitcaster. al the 6.3:1 are sold out. why is that? there still are 7.0:1 reels left. If I understand this correctly I will get seven revolutions of the spool to 1 crank. Is this to fast for lures? Are they not good? I have a 6.6 ugly stic med action. can I use this 7.0:1 on this rod. advantages vs disadvantages. i am currently using a dick's special that only cost me 40 for the rod and reel which is also a baitcaster. Am beginning to get the feel for casting and have been catching bass with it. any help would be appreciated. I realize I asked alot of questions. any info would help. Basically Im just wondering why everyone prefers the 6.3:1 and what would be appropriate on the ugly stick.



7.0:1 is considered a "burner" reel. they are nice for flipping and pitchin to reel up the slack quik or burning spinnerbaits.

6.3:1 is considered an all around retrieve while something like 5.0:1 would be for crankbaits.

there isnt technically anything wrong with buying a 7.0:1 and using it to fish big wobbling cranks but you'll have to slow down your retrieve alot. and vice versa there isnt anything wrong with buying a 5.0:1 and trying to burn spinnerbaits back to the boat.

the only problem i personally see and consider a big one is it's easier to speed up then slow down your retrieve. thus you might find it hard to fish a texas rig low and slow with a burner reel as opposed to something of a lesser gear ratio.



meatball1977 -> RE: Baitcaster (6/5/2008 4:03:15 PM)

I use my quantum tour,7:0:1 for everything.I just love it.



casts_by_fly -> RE: Baitcaster (6/6/2008 11:02:40 AM)

it is easier for me to slow down than speed up.  I'll take a 7.0 over a 5.2 any day.  More important though is to look at the line retrieved per revolution.  You can have a faster speed ratio with a slower intake when you use a smaller spool.  Some extra fast burner reels don't take in line any faster than a plain old 6.1:1.

thanks
rick



The Sack -> RE: Baitcaster (6/9/2008 8:47:54 PM)

Steelys,

I have both the 6.3 and 7 to 1 reels, . Honestly, I really prefer the 7 to 1 reel. Sometimes you may need to slow down your retrieve based on the lure/situation you are fishing but this is something your going to do anyway. For slow fishing soft plastics in and around cover, you can't beat it. It really lets you power the fish to the boat before he has a chance to wind you around any standing cover or dive deeper into the lillies and hydrilla. True, it can be fast, but its made that way, and it is not difficult to control at all. I must say, the quantum pt tour edition casts beutifully and the braking system really helps to eliminate backlashes. 95% of the battle with any baitcaster is just learning how to adjust the spool tension properly when you change tackle. The brakes are just a super fine tune. I rarely change mine unless it's really windy or I'm using a very light bait. As for your ugly stick...If thats your rod of choice then go with it. I prefer a stiffer rod with faster action myself but thats me. Hope this helps.

Sack



STEELYS MANFISH -> RE: Baitcaster (6/13/2008 8:55:21 AM)

thanks sack. I definitely appreciate the info provided. The 7 sounds pretty good to me especially considering the lillies and other areas I like to fish. The 7 will pull 31 inches per crank but it sounds like I should be able slow down my retrieve depending on lure selection. The ugly stic will have to work until I can afford to match the reel with something better. Thanks again.



The Sack -> RE: Baitcaster (6/19/2008 6:46:29 PM)

No problem. All it takes to get good is practice. Luckily, that requires fishing...



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