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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 10/24/2008 4:20:15 PM   
eyesandgillz


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He was arrested twice in 2006.  The first was a domestic abuse case that I think the charges eventually got dropped and the second was for disorderly conduct in South Beach.  I think he plead out or just got a fine or something.  Either way, the Rooneys don't care much for this type of thing and if he doesn't turn it around, he will be shipped out and I say good riddance.  If he turns it around, great, but we don't need a head case around the team that is as bad as TO, ocho cinco, or plex...man, what is it with receivers...talk about the ultimate prima donnas.

  

He was cleared of all charges in both cases.  In case you've forgotten, this is America.

Head case, lol.

Plex?  good grief, what'd Plex ever do wrong here besides be flamboyant and spike the football once as a rookie?


Guess you haven't been paying attention to Plex's escapades in NY?

Just because Santonio got special treatment because he was a pro athlete doesn't mean he didn't do anything wrong.  You will only get so many "arrests without convictions" in the league before you are looking for work elsewhere.  If he stays clean, then so be it.  I think he has maybe one more chance then we will be calling him Cedrick Wilson, Jr......

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 10/24/2008 6:57:10 PM   
Cold


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Status: offline 		Speaking of Sunday's game, did anyone else listen to the afternoon DJ for the X today around 3:30?  I started listening because it was about football, but soon realized what a moron the guy was.  He should just stick to reporting facts because once he gets to his predictions, he reveals the true depth of his football knowledge (roughly equivalent to the depth of the mouth of 16 right now).  He included such gems as, "Plaxico Burress was hospitalized for examination of a strained shoulder.  This should slow him down considerably, making him easier to cover."...because we all know how shoulders play a pivotal role in running...and lets forget "th Steelers remember how the Philadelphia blitz shut down their offense, so they'll likely remember that and shape up to resist the Giants' pass rush"...as opposed to the Giants dee looking at game films and using that same game as a guide of how to get some serious penetration on the Steelers' O-line.

I mean, I like the Steelers and all, but this guy was turning every piece of news into a Steelers advantage (except the Holmes thing, which he strictly avoided, and even got nasty with a caller for voicing his opinion on it).

If you like this guy, I'm happy for you, but the X just lost et another listener in the afternoons.  I'll stick toTim Benz on the morning commute, then pop in a CD or something rather than listen to that joker in the afternoons.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 10/24/2008 7:04:14 PM   
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I did read Mark Madden is coming back, if that is him I wouldn't be surprised because he is a jerk.

I can't figure out who is going to win Steelers/Giants this week. I can see it going low score or high score, maybe won by either team on a last minute field goal or overtime. Regardless, I am not betting on it at all.

Cleveland looks like they are going to get smoked in Jacksonville, 34-17.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 10/24/2008 8:06:18 PM   
Cold


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Status: offline 		Just checked it, and you're spot on: it IS Mark Madden.  I guess it's calls like that which truly make you the king of the gobies.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 10/24/2008 8:14:03 PM   
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Surprising to hear he is kissing the Steelers asses now that he was fired for doing just the opposite. I hate that guy.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 10/25/2008 10:11:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		I hope he doesn't last long.  Definitely a waste of airwaves and oxygen!  He is the jabba the hut of radio.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 10/25/2008 1:27:00 PM   
track2514


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Status: offline 		Well I have been busy, but I am back and the Steelers are in a sad state. The injuries hurt and now Santonio goes and pulls a plax by getting caught with dope. I still think the Steelers have the advantage with the way Moore has been playing and the Steelers also have the edge on defense. This is supposed to be a "measuring stick" game for both teams, but with the injuries this is not the same Steelers team that will be there at the end of the season. Let's hope the Steelers can get it done and squeak by. I expect a close game and it should be fun to watch.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 10/25/2008 1:32:52 PM   
track2514


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Status: offline 		By the way Hines Ward has cemented his status as the hardest hitting wide receiver in the history of the game and I hope he gets in the hall of fame someday. I keep seeing all these players and fans talking about how Hines is dirty and he takes cheapshots. This really angers me and just because other players don't play to the whistle like we were all taught in Pee Wee football, Hines is not dirty. Plus the Rivers hit was justified, not helmet to helmet and helped the play succeed. Sorry to harp on this issue, but I am really getting tired of the systematic "Wussification" of the NFL.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 10/25/2008 2:22:33 PM   
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Status: online 		Mark Madden deserves nothing less than a swift kick to the sackajawea. That guy is a worthless slob, who will hopefully be gone.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 10/25/2008 2:27:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Acouple of Monday night games ago, when Reggie bush was returning one of his punt returns for a TD, against the Vikings, there where two similar blocks like the Rivers block that everybody praised.  I did and so did I applaud Hines' block on Rivers.  Point is, what makes Hines' block any different.  I wish Hines played defense for the Browns!

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 10/25/2008 4:07:40 PM   
track2514


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Status: offline 		Good to hear the respect for Hines from a level-headed Ohio sports fan. On the other board I post at frequently, several Bengals fans have been saying how Hines is the dirtiest player in the NFL. I would be mad if the shoe was on the other foot, i.e. Harrison was taken out by a receiver (which would never happen by the way), but I would still respect the player who hit him if it was a legal hit. I'm not sure if you saw Hines on PTI, but the guy let it all hang out and said he is not going to change for the NFL and I agree with him on this.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 10/25/2008 4:55:29 PM   
Cold


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He is the jabba the hut of radio.


  That really made me laugh out loud!

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 10/25/2008 5:46:22 PM   
*commander*


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Status: offline 		trackstat has been gone for awhile because madden has been gone for awhile. madden has only recently resurfaced on 105.9. trackstat gets all of his info from madden. madden refers to himself as "super genius" whereas trackstat is a "super genius." 2 peas separated from their pod at birth.


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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 10/25/2008 6:07:50 PM   
Rapscallion

 

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Status: offline 		Yeah, well he's back now and he's hoping the Steelers squeak by. I guess that doesn't count as an official prediction of a win so they still have a chance.

< Message edited by Rapscallion -- 10/25/2008 6:08:18 PM >

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 10/25/2008 10:28:54 PM   
*commander*


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Status: offline 		i wish he would make some predictions. i've made more $$$ betting the opposite of what he says than i ever have betting on any other "system." heck, he STILL owes me $$$. that COWHER POWER Super Bowl thing was a LOCK!!!

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 10/25/2008 11:24:35 PM   
Rapscallion

 

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Status: offline 		Yeah, good luck collecting on that bet. You'd have a better chance of him actually being right with one of his predictions one time than you'll ever have of seeing any $$$$.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 10/26/2008 9:51:43 AM   
beerman


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Status: offline 		I'm not "scared" to make some predictions (sure to be wrong), lol!

If the Steelers were healthier I would give them a great chance to win today (at home) versus the Giants......but with four starters out....slim chance. Steeler fan just has to hope Big Ben makes it through the game. Remember LT Marvel Smith is out. Giants 17-9.

Who knows about the Dr. Jekyl/Mr. Hyde Cleveland Browns and QB Derek Anderson. Which team will we see. I don't feel too confident, unless they put in relief QB Brady Quinn. Maybe the Browns will trade Kellen Winslow for Santonio Holmes, lol! Jags 24-13

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 10/26/2008 12:29:05 PM   
track2514


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Status: offline 		I have never been afraid to post my predictions either, I just have not had that much time lately. My predictions are also sure to be wrong since I go with the Steelers 95% of the time regardless of the circumstances. I think the Steelers will beat the Giants 21-20 and the Browns will beat the Jags 16-6. The main reason I am predicting the Steelers to win is the defense and the fact they are playing at home. On paper the Steelers should lose this game and they have a ton of injuries, but I think they are coming together as a team at the right time. I think the Browns will win simply by defaul, the Jags have not looked right all season.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 10/26/2008 12:35:23 PM   
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And how if you go with the Steelers 95% of the time are you mostly wrong? They are 10-6 almost every year?

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 10/26/2008 8:25:09 PM   
Rapscallion

 

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Status: offline 		Ahhh, it suddenly becomes much more clear why they lost today. LOL!
I'm sorry but I'm still not that impressed by the Giants. The Steelers did everything but wrap that game in a box and put it under the tree for them today and they still barely came out with a win. Four turnovers, one called back touchdown, untimely penalties and a safety and they can only win by seven while scoring a lousy 21 points?! If it was possible to play a straight up game with none of the above factors influencing the outcome, the Steelers humiliate that team.
I thought the defense was very impressive given all of the field position situations they had to overcome. The offense was sporadic at best but given the fact that they were missing two of their top weapons, they still moved the ball relatively well. The one thing I can't understand is why none of our receivers can seem to get open 50% of the time they are running patterns. Big Ben had ample time most of the game but it seemed like he had to hold the ball forever before someone flashed open.
The one play I will give the Giants credit for is that fourth down conversion where they threw the deep ball to Toomer. That play took some guts to call and was well executed all around. I hope we see them again at the big dance. Something tells me the outcome will be a little bit different the second time around.
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I have never been afraid to post my predictions either, I just have not had that much time lately. My predictions are also sure to be wrong since I go with the Steelers 95% of the time regardless of the circumstances. I think the Steelers will beat the Giants 21-20 and the Browns will beat the Jags 16-6. The main reason I am predicting the Steelers to win is the defense and the fact they are playing at home. On paper the Steelers should lose this game and they have a ton of injuries, but I think they are coming together as a team at the right time. I think the Browns will win simply by defaul, the Jags have not looked right all season.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 10/26/2008 9:41:08 PM   
track2514


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Status: offline 		Wow for once I do agree with Raps here. While the Steelers lost, I don't think it was because the Giants were a far superior team. The Steelers have their weaknesses, but the Giants could not seem to capitalize on anything. The Steelers had to literally give the game away before the Giants could take advantage. The injuries hurt and the Steelers are a different team when healthy, but I am not going to open the excuse book. This was a hard fought game between two teams that may see each other again in the Super Bowl. Someone please tell Santonio to stop smoking the dope, he seems to be the only guy we have that consistently draws double teams and gets open. Washington was impressive, but for the most part the Steelers receivers did struggle.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 10/26/2008 10:35:13 PM   
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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 10/26/2008 11:07:14 PM   
Rapscallion

 

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no fair. i thought you "blocked" Raps on your computer. 

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 10/26/2008 11:13:37 PM   
*commander*


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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 10/26/2008 11:15:01 PM   
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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 10/27/2008 11:28:24 AM   
Deadbolt401


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Harrison and other long snapper both collect 100k on scheme.



Go penguins.


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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 10/27/2008 1:39:01 PM   
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I hope we see them again at the big dance. Something tells me the outcome will be a little bit different the second time around


That would be cool with me!

I kind of have the same feeling about the handed to them, but might be a Stiller fan cover...  If I were a Giant's fan, I doubt that I'd be feeling like it was handed to them.  There were some rather sketchy calls benifitting the Stillers.  Jacobs sure looked like he crossed the goal line on his 10th attempt, and that roughing call that negated a nice reception of theirs would have really ticked me off, if called against us.  I think those kind of evened out the bad breaks that we had.  The injuries seemed to be rather balanced as well.  I think this really came down to the turn over battle.  When the Stillers win that battle, we call it good defense...  It looked like the Giants won half of the game, and the Stillers won the other half.  Just happened to be the middle half the Stillers won, and not the end, which usually wins the game.  I think the teams are very evenly matched, like about 1/3 of the top tier teams in the league.  It would not shock me one bit, if we watch this rematch in a few months. 

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 10/27/2008 4:09:07 PM   
Rapscallion

 

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Status: offline 		Fair enough. Before the game, I would have said if we were able to stifle their running game and remove Burress from the equation, it would have taken a minor miracle for the Giants to win. Or the Steelers would have to give the game away via turnovers.
I'm only crediting Big ben with one interception which was the first one he threw. That was a poorly thrown ball. The second one was a lucky bounce to a Giant who just happenned to be in the right place at the right time. The last two were just desperation throws as he had no other option. Unfortunately, they all stopped drives or potential drives and put the defense back on the field. I think not having Holmes in the game was a far bigger negative than anyone thought beforehand. And how about the fact that you never notice or miss a long snapper until you don't have one any longer? That may have been the biggest single factor in the end result of that game.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 10/27/2008 4:47:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Why is James Harrison the backup long snapper???  Like it is that much different than snapping the ball in shotgun than it is for punting, that Hartwig can't do it as a back up role?

Taking Holmes out of the offense, a few days prior to the game was definitely a blow.  I think the distraction probably cost them about as much as him not being there.  I also think the team suspending him, caused more distraction than letting it play out with the league (going to have that distraction regardless).  I place as much blame on the Rooneys as I do on Holmes in this situation.  They could have at least done what the Giants did, and had him not start, and throw him in if needed.  Look around the league, there are other players out there caught doing much worse than carrying a joint, that are playing until the league determines what to do.  The league could rule that him sitting out this game does not count for their suspension, and he ends up out an extra game, so the Rooney's can say they don't put up with that kind of stuff.  Although, making tons of cash over people with gambling addictions and taking millions of dollars from the tax payers is just fine...  Not saying what Holmes did was right, but seems kind of hypocritical to me. 

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 10/27/2008 8:55:56 PM   
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I place as much blame on the Rooneys as I do on Holmes in this situation.


Ooooh...I see where you're coming from, but I strongly disagree.  The Rooneys weren't smoking weed (or at least werent getting caught...which brings up hilarious possibilities, but thats for another time).  Anyone in this league knows that the Rooneys are all class acts, and they hold their players and other employees to a higher standard, and I commend them for this.  I too feel that Holmes could have made a difference in this game, but at the expense of the Rooneys compromising their morals?  No, I'm glad to see them making a stand.  As far as gambling addicts and the like, again, I can see what you're getting at, but disagree on several points, one of which is, again, that they're standing up for what they feel is right, not pandering to their cash source...its funny that in politics we criticize people for this, but expect it from others.  Second, is the example they're setting.  The example they're setting for the rest of the players, the league (Jerry Jones!  I love ya, but you need to sit up and take note!), and, most importantly (to me), the kids.

Think about the great NFL stars, and how many of them, idolized by kids, make terrible, disgusting role models.  For every one NFL star that's a good role model, there's 3 or 4 bad ones.  People in the headlines, not for their performance on the field, but their issues off of it.  Pacman, TO, Chris Henry, Ray Lewis, Matt Jones, the list goes on and on and on.  I think its a real shame that, even since I was a kid, so many of these guys have turned out to be criminals and scumbags, and they're still allowed to play.  I, for one, commend the Rooneys, and it Santonio not playing cost us the game, then yes, that frustrates me, but I still give hats off to the people that made that call for sticking to their guns.  Its not always easy to make the unpopular decision, especially in a "winning is everything" world like we have today, but its nice to see that kind of character.

Eh, rant mode off...I just had to get that out there.

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