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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 9/21/2008 9:03:31 PM

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I watched the whole game thank you very much and Roethkisberger did not seem like himself. Regardless of all of the sacks, hurries, knockdowns, etc. He was much slower than usual in terms of his decision making and seemed to grab his shoulder after several passing plays. If you would have watched the game maybe you would have noticed this. Additionally, would he go to the locker room and sit out the remainder of the game if he was feeling great? Getting sacked many times did not help Roethlisbergers health, but above and beyond the sacks he did not look very healthy.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 9/21/2008 9:19:58 PM

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Pulling the old high school trick, Ohh-I-made-a-bad-play-so-i-better-pretend-I'm-hurt.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 9/21/2008 9:24:19 PM

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 9/21/2008 9:28:10 PM

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I read it Griffon, that was right on.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 9/21/2008 9:30:57 PM

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How did you boys enjoy the game today....

E-A-G-L-E-S.... EAGLES !!!

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 9/21/2008 9:37:52 PM

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only good result of that game is maybe the iggles can keep up with the cowboys. anybody but the cowboys in the nfc.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 9/21/2008 9:40:33 PM

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What it seems to me that the off. line could not take care of business , how about the defence/

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 9/21/2008 9:42:33 PM

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i have to agree with track2514.... Roethlisberger did not seem like himself.... if anybody who watched last week's game they would have known that he injured his shoulder.... i give him credit being out there as long as he was. BUT if his shoulder was still hurting him and giving him problems, they should have had LEFTWICH in there who has a fresh shoulder that wasn't bothering him.... it also didn't help that our offensive line played like crap.... they needed to give ben more time in the pocket.... but the way i see it we still should have beaten the philadelphia BEAGLES.... they have been crappy for years.... but ohh well they learned and we will win the rest of our games hopefully.... atleast the patriots lost to MIAMI...lol

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 9/21/2008 9:45:34 PM

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it's tough to admit but the stillers can't win in philly. they gotta have one of the worst records of all time playing in philly.

not that it would have mattered, but not going for the field goal and onsides kick was an absolute bonehead coaching move. putting the game in "Sandwich's" hands on 4th down added insult to injury.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 9/21/2008 9:52:08 PM

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They sure do.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 9/21/2008 10:03:24 PM

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tracks,
you're the best armchair quarterback in the business. For you to even ponder the thought that there was something wrong with big Ben demonstrates once again how clueless you are.
He did everything humanly possible to make something out of absolutely nothing all day and your seeing phantom injuries.
It's no wonder you take so much flack on here. You're either blind or absolutely stupid. I'm still not sure which. He went to the locker room with less than four minutes left. That was after being abused for three+ quarters. Of course he wasn't feeling well after getting beat up for 56+ minutes. How would you feel after taking that abuse?
That doesn't mean however that he wasn't feeling good from the opening snap as you are insinuating. Get a clue man.
And stop apologizing for being wrong all of the time. We're all used to it by now. There is no apology needed.

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Raps

I watched the whole game thank you very much and Roethkisberger did not seem like himself. Regardless of all of the sacks, hurries, knockdowns, etc. He was much slower than usual in terms of his decision making and seemed to grab his shoulder after several passing plays. If you would have watched the game maybe you would have noticed this. Additionally, would he go to the locker room and sit out the remainder of the game if he was feeling great? Getting sacked many times did not help Roethlisbergers health, but above and beyond the sacks he did not look very healthy.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 9/21/2008 10:13:09 PM

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on top of that, he went to the locker room for his hand. "Sandwich" would have gotten sacked twice as many times.

careful, trackstat will "ignore" you so he cant see your posts. pretty soon beerman will be the only one not "ignored" by trackstat.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 9/21/2008 10:20:38 PM

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Stop quoting it takes up too much space and is a waste of time, just hit reply and everyone will be thankful. In regards to your other comments, please watch the games before coming on this board and commenting. It would make for much better conversation if you actually watched the games you like to discuss. Ben leaving at the end of the game was just the end result of him being in pain the entire game and prior to the game. Roethlisberger was hurt in the Houston game and has not been 100% since. He has shown some flashes of the Ben that we all know, but he is definitely not playing without injury. On a final note, I never apologized for being wrong just stated that my predictions were off. You need to stop hanging out with Commando and Goby Queen they are warping your mind. Or maybe Commando=Goby Queen=Raps, but that is another issue altogether. Ending on a positive note, go Steelers.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 9/21/2008 10:24:32 PM

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Raps

Stop quoting it takes up too much space and is a waste of time, just hit reply and everyone will be thankful. In regards to your other comments, please watch the games before coming on this board and commenting. It would make for much better conversation if you actually watched the games you like to discuss. Ben leaving at the end of the game was just the end result of him being in pain the entire game and prior to the game. Roethlisberger was hurt in the Houston game and has not been 100% since. He has shown some flashes of the Ben that we all know, but he is definitely not playing without injury. On a final note, I never apologized for being wrong just stated that my predictions were off. You need to stop hanging out with Commando and Goby Queen they are warping your mind. Or maybe Commando=Goby Queen=Raps, but that is another issue altogether. Ending on a positive note, go Steelers.

You're a douchebag. The Eagles D was a lot faster than the slow O line of the Steelers. They got beat handily.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 9/21/2008 10:26:08 PM

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Raps

Stop quoting it takes up too much space and is a waste of time, just hit reply and everyone will be thankful. In regards to your other comments, please watch the games before coming on this board and commenting. It would make for much better conversation if you actually watched the games you like to discuss. Ben leaving at the end of the game was just the end result of him being in pain the entire game and prior to the game. Roethlisberger was hurt in the Houston game and has not been 100% since. He has shown some flashes of the Ben that we all know, but he is definitely not playing without injury. On a final note, I never apologized for being wrong just stated that my predictions were off. You need to stop hanging out with Commando and Goby Queen they are warping your mind. Or maybe Commando=Goby Queen=Raps, but that is another issue altogether. Ending on a positive note, go Steelers.

You're a douchebag. The Eagles D was a lot faster than the slow O line of the Steelers. They got beat handily.

And the Steelers usually have a losing record on the road. Hence, they will lose more thn 50% of the remaining games on the road. That is why the record at home is so good.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 9/21/2008 10:27:40 PM

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Raps

Stop quoting it takes up too much space and is a waste of time, just hit reply and everyone will be thankful. In regards to your other comments, please watch the games before coming on this board and commenting. It would make for much better conversation if you actually watched the games you like to discuss. Ben leaving at the end of the game was just the end result of him being in pain the entire game and prior to the game. Roethlisberger was hurt in the Houston game and has not been 100% since. He has shown some flashes of the Ben that we all know, but he is definitely not playing without injury. On a final note, I never apologized for being wrong just stated that my predictions were off. You need to stop hanging out with Commando and Goby Queen they are warping your mind. Or maybe Commando=Goby Queen=Raps, but that is another issue altogether. Ending on a positive note, go Steelers.

You're a douchebag. The Eagles D was a lot faster than the slow O line of the Steelers. They got beat handily.

And the Steelers usually have a losing record on the road. Hence, they will lose more thn 50% of the remaining games on the road. That is why the record at home is so good.

You are the worst prognosticator I have come across. And still an idiot. SHUT UP!

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 9/21/2008 10:28:49 PM

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trackstat, youve been commenting on here for 5 years without watching the games.

as far as us being the same person, while it is untrue as are all of your predictions, nobody needs help proving you wrong. you do that all by yourself.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 9/21/2008 10:44:57 PM

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LOL!
Buddy, you are as dumb as you sound. The more you type, the more ignorant you look. Your one and only comeback is to tell everybody to watch the games.
Meanwhile, you claim to watch every week but somehow see something different than 99.5% of the rest of the nation. When and if you finally figure out what is going on, come and see me. Until then, keep playing your nintendo and pretending you are John Madden. That is about as close as you will ever get to knowing or understanding football. LOL!

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Raps

Stop quoting it takes up too much space and is a waste of time, just hit reply and everyone will be thankful. In regards to your other comments, please watch the games before coming on this board and commenting. It would make for much better conversation if you actually watched the games you like to discuss. Ben leaving at the end of the game was just the end result of him being in pain the entire game and prior to the game. Roethlisberger was hurt in the Houston game and has not been 100% since. He has shown some flashes of the Ben that we all know, but he is definitely not playing without injury. On a final note, I never apologized for being wrong just stated that my predictions were off. You need to stop hanging out with Commando and Goby Queen they are warping your mind. Or maybe Commando=Goby Queen=Raps, but that is another issue altogether. Ending on a positive note, go Steelers.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 9/21/2008 10:49:38 PM

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I did not see the game exept from kdka and it showed that we were down close to the 30 a few times. Why did we not cap. on those?

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 9/22/2008 4:00:52 AM

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Well I must admit I was wrong on the predictions. The Steelers lost a heartbreaker to the Eagles and the Browns got pounded by the Ravens. It is hard to believe that the Ravens are undefeated and now in first place, but hopefully that will not last long. I didn't see the Browns game so I will not comment on what happened, but here is my take on the Steelers game:

Positives
1) The Steelers defense played very well and looked strong in almost every facet of the game, especially Polamalu. His third interception in as many games demonstrates how much of an impact he can make when healthy.
2) Jeff Reed nailed a long field goal and the special teams looked better than ever.
3) Nate Washington and Heath Miller had great games. The Steelers may have the best receiving corps in the league.

Negatives
1) Roethlsberger looked hurt the entire game and did not seem like himself. I really hope Tomlin does the right thing and makes him sit until he is healthy. I think we were fooled by the media reports and he has more than a sore shoulder.
2) The Steelers o-line was atrocious and the could not block anybody. They better figure things out quickly or Roethlisberger will have a short career.
3) What happened to Willie Parker?
4) The execution at the end of the game was horrible. The Steelers should have kicked the field goal and tried for the onside kick.

Overall it was a rather unimpressive effort by the Steelers and I think all of the o-line concerns are definitely justifiable. Let's hope Roethlisberger can get well fast and the o-line figures out how to block before the next game.

Here you go idiot, no one else is up this time of night (I work the nightshift). You must be some kind of wannabe blogger or out of work columnist. You are full of excuses for the loss, but have little to back it up. He(RothLISberger) wasn't hurt in the first 3 quarters, but you insinuated he was hurt BEFORE the game. What happened to the 31-28 Steelers victory?

Again, this proves your an idiot that likes to sound like you know something.

I feel sorry for the kids that have to learn from you, they will only know double-talk and lying. You give the teaching profession a bad name.

IF YOU READ THIS SUCK ASS, PREDICT THE SPREAD AND OVER UNDER OF THE NEXT STEELERS GAME-THAT IS ALL!

You won't thought, because everyone sees through your BS and you won't even read this because you like to smoke the white owl; you know, your a peter bumper!

IDIOT!!!!!!!!!

PS You predict 59 points on a fair weather day in Philly. LOL

PSS PLEASE PREDICT THE SCORES OF THE FINAL 13 GAMES OF THE STEELERS! I would love to bet from your predictions. Idiot.

This retard won't read it anyway because he blocked me, but I'm warning the rest of you who read this.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 9/22/2008 7:47:24 AM

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Does anybody think an 8-8 record could win the AFC North?

I watched the Bungles play the Giants tough and probably should have won the game yesterday.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 9/22/2008 8:41:09 AM

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That's the NFL. Look at Miami yesterday. Going into Foxboro and embarrassing The Pats. Who'd a thunk it???

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 9/22/2008 9:40:51 AM

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What was so surprising about that? It's more than obvious by now what some have known for years. Belichick is nothing without Brady. Not the other way around.
His vaunted defensive mind and ability to plug anybody in anywhere to fill any position was more senseless media hype. Those boneheads are perhaps the most uneducated of any football fan.
He's being shown for the phoney genius that he has always been.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 9/22/2008 9:51:47 AM

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Aw, give him a little credit. I cant stand the guy just as much as the next sane person, but you cant take away that he's a talented coach. You dont think the Steelers would have problems if Ben suffered a season-ending injury and we had to readjust our entire offensive scheme to suit Leftwich? We'd be lucky in that Ben and Leftwich have a vaguely similar style, whereas Brady and Cassel are like comparing apples and kumquats. That offense is used to timing, precision, and an excellent rapport with their quarterback. Robbed of that, any team suffers, regardless of the coaching.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 9/22/2008 11:58:41 AM

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The Steelers got their arse handed to them today. Ben didn't look like Ben because he didn't have but 2 seconds to throw the ball. The few occassions he did get some time, he made something happen, or the receivers dropped the ball. If Ben wasn't the QB, there would have been at least a dozen sacks, maybe more. He barely got back to the line of scrimmage on several occassions or had a 1 or 2 yd gain and if it were any other QB, it would have been a sack. The intentional grounding for a safety should have been a sack for a safety. His knee was down before he got that pass off. Didn't matter at that point.

I question the play calling and abandoning the run so early, especially after Westbrook went out. Philly had trouble moving the ball well once he went out. Steelers should have set up more screens and draw plays to counter the blitz but, even those were getting stuffed by the superior iggles D. They wouldn't be able to get them all though. Steelers just looked old and slow compared to the iggles yesterday.

I was po'd at the play calling that last series too but after hearing Tomlin explain his rationale, I can see the other side of the coin. The way they didn't move the ball all day (steelers), he was going to try and get the TD when he was that deep in iggles territory. There was definitely no faint hope or guarantee that they were going to move the ball 60yds even if they did recover the onside kick and score a TD with less than 30 seconds on the clock and no timeouts. If it were me, being the armchair QB that I am being in this post, when they got the ball deep and within Jeff Reed's range, I would have kicked the field goal ASAP to leave as much time on the clock as possible and maybe leave a time out in my back pocket as well. They would have had over a min. on the clock to work with and maybe a time out, if they would have recovered the onside kick. Still a lot to ask of any team. Oh well. Hopefully they got all the bad mojo out of their system in that game and maybe we'll get our revenge in the super bowl.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 9/22/2008 1:10:49 PM

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Just look at his record pre-Brady, with Brady and what they look like now and tell me how talented he is. Everything he has accomplished as a coach has been because he lucked into Brady. And lucked into is what he did.
The experts will tell you he and Pioli knew exactly what they were doing in drafting Brady but anyone with half a brain knows better. Let's see him accomplish anything without Brady as his quarterback. He is still in one of the weakest divisions in football and he'll have to have a lot of things go his way to win it or even qualify for the playoffs.
He's a sham. Always has been and always will be.

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Aw, give him a little credit. I cant stand the guy just as much as the next sane person, but you cant take away that he's a talented coach. You dont think the Steelers would have problems if Ben suffered a season-ending injury and we had to readjust our entire offensive scheme to suit Leftwich? We'd be lucky in that Ben and Leftwich have a vaguely similar style, whereas Brady and Cassel are like comparing apples and kumquats. That offense is used to timing, precision, and an excellent rapport with their quarterback. Robbed of that, any team suffers, regardless of the coaching.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 9/22/2008 2:46:32 PM

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Yeah, because you know NE's defense totally sucks unless Brady is playing middle linebacker...

You're almost as bad as the people you ridicule...maybe worse...you cant even see it.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 9/22/2008 2:59:39 PM

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"He is still in one of the weakest divisions in football..."

As if the Steelers are in a strong division.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 9/22/2008 3:03:53 PM

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This is what I can see buddy. For years we have been told by the media what a great TEAM the Patriots are and how they are not about individuals but rather the TEAM and how Belichick is a genius for his ability to plug any hole with any player and still win.
There is no I in TEAM they have been saying. It's not about any individual but all about the TEAM. Kind of ironic how now that he/they have lost the one person he/they couldn't afford to lose that the TEAM no longer even resembles what they have for the past six years. They just had their worst home loss in the Belichick era. They barely squeeked by a Kansas City team that may not win one game all year. Now the latest news is they are whining about cheap shots on the part of the Dolphins. Looks like the TEAM is slowly but surely falling apart. And there doesn't seem to be a darn thing your hero can do about it.
That much I can see.

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RE: 2008 Cleveland Browns ~ Pittsburgh Steelers ~ Others - 9/22/2008 3:09:21 PM

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Did I say the Steelers were in a strong division? I don't remember saying that. Maybe I missed it. Could you show me where I said that? Could you tell me if I did say that, what that has to do with Belichick and the loss of Brady and the fall of the Patriots?
Could you help me put those two things together because I can't seem to do it and I've never been the sharpest tool in the shed.
By the way, I wouldn't get too excited about your Bills. Barely getting by a high school Raiders team at home is nothing to hang your Super Bowl aspirations on.

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"He is still in one of the weakest divisions in football..."

As if the Steelers are in a strong division.

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