formerguide
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Copied this from another thread- please, if anyone has some ideas, let's get them on the table. I think that the time has definitley come to put an end to naming specific spots, particulrly those on private easements.
"Spot-burning" is absolutely a problem on this site. It's not as if 1000's of people are necesarry to ruin a good, out-of-the-way spot either. Think of a typical small trib, one that doesn't get much presssure. Now, imagine the furthest upstream access point. Maybe 1 or 2 cars at most generally are seen at this spot. The fishing ins't terrifc, but few people think to fish there, and it's a nice place to go when things are crowded and your expectaions are reasonable. Now, imagine someone posts how terrific that spot was, how no one was around, solitude, blah, blah, blah... If ONLY 3 more cars per day parked there (hardly far-fetched) this fomerly out-of-the-way spot is all of a sudden crowded. The fishing suffers, the landowner gets pissed, and the trash onstream just got doubled.
What really burns a lot of people, myself included, are the posts that ask "How's the fishing at ______?" Having to drive a long distance doesn't cut it. A lot of people drive a considerable distance, and spend an inordinate amount of time getting there. People seem to continuously argue that "I don't want to waste my time at _________ if the fish aren't there yet, or if the water is no good." People seem to think that the only time to fish is when conditions are perfect.
Newsflash- the BEST time to fish is whenever you can. Even better, when conditions aren't "perfect" on your favorite stretch, find an area where the fishing is good. The more spots that you have available in your databank, the less dependent you will be based upon water conditions. The guys who catch the most fish aren't necessarily the best anglers (though they often are...) They just have the most spots to draw upon when conditions are high, or low, or warm, or too cold, etc... And, why do any of us fish in the first place? Do I like to catch fish? Of course. But it's not why I fish, or at the least, it's not ALL of why I fish.
So, here is my opinion on how spots should be monitored on this board. I've even suggested this before. It's vague enough to hide spots, and help dissipate stream traffic, but specific enough to truly help someone who needs some information.
You can mention the following:
20 Mile Creek (no specifics)
Other East-side Trib (would include all of the Mile Streams other than 20)
Walnut - Lake to Rt 5
Walnut - Upstream of Rt 5
Trout Run
Elk Creek - Lake to Rt 5
Elk Creek - Rt 5 to Rt 20
Elk Creek - Rt 20 to McKean
Crooked Creek (no specifics)
Other (any stream or area not covered by the above...)
OH - would include any and all OH streams
NY West - Any NY Erie trib
NY East - Any NY Ontario trib
You cannot-
Mention by name any spot not covered by the above, including unstocked streams, unstocked branches, and no-name streams.
Again, I feel that this is a fair way for people to give and get information, without stampeding a specific spot. So, for example, a person can say, "Fished Elk, between Rt 5 and Rt 20. Did terrific! Water was great, crowds weren't too bad- pink SS was the ticket for me!" Now, honestly, how much more information does anyone need? You know that Elk fished well somewhere a ways up from the lake, but not too far up. Now, you have several spots to try in that given area. Everyone can benefit from the info, but no one spot would be overrun.
Just like, one could say, "Fished a Mile Stream- water was OK..." That's all anyone should need. What difference does it make what specific Mile stream it was? You know it wasn't 20, so you can guage by that alone.
Anyway, just my $.02- it seems to me a fair compromise all-around...
Dan
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