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RE: anyone had problems with wardens - 10/17/2007 3:05:35 PM   
*commander*


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Status: offline 		bottom line is, had you handled it then like youre talking now, you wouldnt have had a problem.

highly doubt anybody of authority(police officer, game warden, wco) is going to let ANYBODY make them look like a dumbazz as you say. if they permit one person to do it, theyre going to take crap from many more. be thankful you didnt get fined and get over it. better yet, next time you see a wco explain the situation that occurred and see what they have to say.

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RE: anyone had problems with wardens - 10/17/2007 6:36:37 PM   
nightowl207

 

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Status: offline 		alright thanks for the advice commander.

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RE: anyone had problems with wardens - 10/17/2007 8:37:27 PM   
walcat01

 

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Status: offline 		I'll be damned commander, you do have some common sense!!!!!

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RE: anyone had problems with wardens - 10/17/2007 11:46:54 PM   
*commander*


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Status: offline 		hey old fella. up kinda late arent you. even though i think youre great and even though youre such a well respected member of this board, i think you may be slipping. i believe you may not be getting enough bran or sleep. after all, $5500 for a worn out 1990 camper van???!!! the fact that you agree with my statement about the POSSIBLE warden makes me thing i may be wrong on the subject. anyway, thanks for the kind words. i knew youd come around. cheers to you. youre a great fella.

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RE: anyone had problems with wardens - 10/18/2007 10:48:53 AM   
walcat01

 

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RE: anyone had problems with wardens - 10/18/2007 10:58:19 AM   
crappiefisher

 

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Status: offline 		  Faded life vests? Crapp now I'll have to spray all my camo vests I bought for waterfowl blaze orange

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RE: anyone had problems with wardens - 10/18/2007 3:00:08 PM   
nightowl207

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: crappiefisher

Faded life vests? Crapp now I'll have to spray all my camo vests I bought for waterfowl blaze orange



I dont think they were worried about the color being  bright orange. i think they figure if the color is faded the lifevest is worn out or old. mine were only 2yrs old. they just sit in my boat out in the sun all summer and got sunbleached. they still floated like new. now that i guss there not legal ive retired them to swimming pool floaties. i wanna know why there so worried about everyones personal safety. if i wanna go out on a boat and drown thats my perogative. they should be more focused on, if your doing something that affects other people or other peoples safety. but then they go completely against every other safety law the state has by allowing people to ride a motorcycle without a helmet. but i cant go on a boat with a color faded lifevest.




W A R N I N G...................Keep in mind these post are only opinions. They may be dumb, smart, right, or wrong in your eyes.

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RE: anyone had problems with wardens - 10/18/2007 4:35:33 PM   
glen

 

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Status: offline 		MY ONLY COMPLAINT WOULD BE THE NUMBER OF SNAGGERS WHO ARE NOT CONFRONTED BY THE WARDENS, IF THEY WANTED TO, THEY COULD WRITE TICKETS FOR SNAGGING
ALL DAY LONG.
ONE GOOD EXPERIENCE, THERE WAS AN OLDER WARDEN, 10/12 YEARS AGO WHO WAS AT 20 MILE ALOT. I WAS TALKING TO HIM WHEN A GUY WITH A COUPLE FISH WALKED BY. THE GUY DIDN'T HAVE A TROUT STAMP SO THE WARDEN DROVE HIM TO POOR RICHARDS TO GET A STAMP, THEN DROVE HIM BACK TO THE CREEK.          GLEN

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RE: anyone had problems with wardens - 10/18/2007 5:37:46 PM   
nightowl207

 

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Status: offline 		thats a good thing to here. i know theres very honorable officers out the too. a story like that is something you hear from your parents or grandparents tellin you bout the good ol days. im glad to hear sometimes things like that happen in this day in age. snaggers should be caught.thats one area where the fish commission really needs to spend their time writing tickets. and only ticket the people they can prove are doing it, no speculations. if some get away with it, so be it. theyll get caught eventually cause if they get away with it once , chances are theyll keep doing it.

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RE: anyone had problems with wardens - 10/19/2007 1:37:22 PM   
*commander*


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ORIGINAL: walcat01

*commander*--FU



gee whiz walcat. just trying to help you out and youre talking so mean to me again. youre gonna hurt my feelings. anyway, youre still great. cheers to you.

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RE: anyone had problems with wardens - 10/20/2007 8:34:09 AM   
Big Trouble

 

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Status: offline 		steeliefever are you a bonified CRACKHEAD ....or are you seriously just that out of touch with reality?

I bet you voted for Bush & V.P. "the DICK " and yet deny they have any connection to " BIG OIL"..lol



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RE: anyone had problems with wardens - 10/20/2007 11:18:40 AM   
steeliefever

 

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Status: offline 		Well Big Trouble - we all know what opinions are like - everyone has one - but to go insult my voting record like that is out of bounds - i have voted in an election of any type since 1980 - and that is my right as an American - not to vote.

Have a blessed day

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RE: anyone had problems with wardens - 8/14/2008 12:22:26 AM   
flyfishermanPA


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Status: offline 		Friend of mine said a warren snuck behind him one cold day, no one at the lake.. And gave him a huge fine for having acouple beers on him. They can be a pain.

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RE: anyone had problems with wardens - 8/14/2008 1:07:38 AM   
Cold


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Status: offline 		I've only dealt with them a handful of times, and only once did I catch the attitude.  Was fishing in the DHALO on the Loyalhanna creek and the guy had me empty my fishing bag and pockets to make sure I didnt have bait.  This was after he asked if I was trout fishing (while holding a rod with a TROUT magnet on the end of the line) and I said, "Yes, because this is the only water open to trout fishing right now in the area." And pulled out my book to prove it.  I think he wanted to kind of one-up me, but the only place I had bait of any kind was back at the car, a good distance away.  I was lucky that I read the DHALO rules in detail before going out (they sometimes change form year to year), he had nothing he could write me up for.

For what it's worth, this guy was driving a dark blue car, not a white SUV; it had no light bar either.

It's a shame too, because a few days before that, I was questioned by and older officer, in nearly the same spot, and he and I had a nice chat about the water and he even offered some tips for catching the trout therein.  I didnt get either of their names, but it just goes to show you that you cant label them all.  That's just as wrong as someone who sees a bunch of drunk, foul-mouthed guys on opening day and goes around saying "All fisherman are drunk, inconsiderate degenerates!".  Still, it's also certainly not wrong to say that SOME of them really are bad apples.

It's a weird state gubmint that gives its WCOs more authority than its police force.

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RE: anyone had problems with wardens - 8/14/2008 7:55:27 AM   
casts_by_fly

 

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Status: offline 		please note date on thread is a year old.

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RE: anyone had problems with wardens - 8/14/2008 8:00:55 AM   
SENKOBASS

 

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Status: offline 		i agree most of the wardens in pa hunting or fishing are power hungry aholes that should not be in that position .but i have came across 2-3 that you would think were your bast friend .but everyone has there own thoughts on that

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RE: anyone had problems with wardens - 8/14/2008 9:33:29 AM   
tommybanzai

 

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Status: offline 		everyone has there days...some more than others

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RE: anyone had problems with wardens - 8/14/2008 9:41:00 AM   
jonnyfishon

 

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Status: offline 		Me and my buddy had problems with a warden in lake ontario. We were at the dock when he approched. Real nasty. He went through all our stuff, found a life vest with a pea size hole in it and wrote a ticket. I kept quit unti another boat with no lights, no vest , came in behind us. He only gave them a warning, they were locals. I let it rip to the point my friends had to hold me back. The warden knew he was wrong and did not say a word. If your going to do your job, do it fair. On the flip side there are some great wardens out there. I have never been approched during the winter months for steelhead.

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RE: anyone had problems with wardens - 8/14/2008 10:08:14 AM   
pxatim


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From: dahn rahn ah rocks
Status: offline 		I've only had one run in with a warden and it was 2 weeks ago.

I was out with my buddy and my girlfriend fishing. It was 9pm and we were getting ready to leave. On our way back to the car I see a guy walking towards us and I see his badge and all. He comes up and asks to see our licenses. I'm thinking no big deal. We both had ours displayed on our vests. Well he comes up to me and starts to take mine out of my holder but can't get it out. So he makes be take it out and the same for my buddy. Starts asking us where we're from why we're there(my buddy was from out of town) Then he just walks away with our licenses. Goes past where we were fishing and starts looking through the weeds with his flashlight. He covered about 70-80' of shoerline and then does it again.

Finally he comes up to us and says to us I saw you throw a can in the weeds back there, I want to know where it is. We had a cooler with some drinks along but I had all the cans we brought with us. I even picked up enough line to spool a reel and other garbage someone else had left. I let him know this and showed it to him. He still insited we litttered.. then he said I've been watching you for 20 mins through binoculars I saw you throw a can in the weeds and if you can't produce the can I'm going to write you a ticket. It was all I could do not to lose it. I finally convinced him after emptying all our trash out and counting the cans and all the other crap I picked up we hadn't done anything wrong.

Thankfully I had enough to backbone to be civil but stand up for myself or I'm sure he would have wrote us up for nothing. Something just set me off when he said he had been watching us for 20 mins. I'm really glad my girl friend wasn't fishing or even touched a rod. There isn't a doubt in my mind he would have wrote her up for fishing without a license.

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RE: anyone had problems with wardens - 8/14/2008 10:42:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Some folks have bad attitudes, thats all there is to it.  I agree that the snaggers need to be dealt with!  Just try to be civil, try to out-talk them. I hate to sound like Disney or something, but use you're brain, not your braun, even if you feel that flush of rage that everyone gets when someone insults them.  That feeling is hard to control, and if you can keep your head, you will be fine i think.  Good to hear everyones storys.

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RE: anyone had problems with wardens - 8/14/2008 4:38:35 PM   
Deadbolt401


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Status: online 		Well, I guess this thread is really old. But, I'll post.

I've had 4 run ins with the WCO's. 2 were very pleasant, and 2 weren't.
It seems it's the younger guys who are the arrogant ones. I've had an older fellow help me land a musky once.




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RE: anyone had problems with wardens - 8/14/2008 10:59:26 PM   
Storm Warning 2

 

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Status: offline 		I couldn't believe the day of the EPSFA Walleye Challenge (4 to 6' waves) the end of June we were fishing the PA/OH line and the wardens came out to the state line in their boat to check people, during a TOURNAMENT that they knew was going on.

Can't you wait til we get in to check us SAFELY and not mess with us during TOURNEY fishing time???? 

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RE: anyone had problems with wardens - 8/15/2008 8:23:38 PM   
Hammerdown

 

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Status: offline 		We have a conservation officer here in Clarion county that would make your stories kids stuff. I will leave it at that.

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RE: anyone had problems with wardens - 8/15/2008 10:14:34 PM   
*commander*


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Status: offline 		imo leaving it at that doesnt help. if you constantly get hassled get a pen/piece of paper and IN FRONT of the officer, ask him his name/badge number, BOSSES name, etc... and write the PFBC. enough people with enough complaints USUALLY changes things. S### rolls downhill and will eventually catch up with him/her.

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RE: anyone had problems with wardens - 8/20/2008 11:04:22 PM   
Big Fathead

 

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Status: offline 		Well I can testify to the FACT that the officers that patrol the waters from the Ohio line to the Bay are very reasonable and professional! I did have 1 problem at Walnut 2 years ago when some idiot passed me while waiting for a dock to pull my boat and the officer harrassed me about making a wake in reverse while I was avoiding hitting the boat that rudely passed me. I was some what frustrated and when I got ignorant the officer starting doing the same. I played the game and proved my point when I trailered my 26 foot boat with twins I used full throttle to get the boat on the trailer as the officer stated "whatever it takes to load your boat is okay"! I did get stopped on the water the first time out this year and all 4 officers were very professional I was very honest with the officers with all of the questions they ask me, I did not have some of my paperwork on board and they said they would check it out and notify me if there were any problems, that was June and no problems yet. I also was checked at the Perry landing fuel dock and no problems again. I had a problem on the water with another boat and was notified promptly and the person causing the problem was questioned and chaecked at the dock when they went in. I appreciate the Law Enforcement presence on the lake and surely wouldn't put them down for doing there job! I'm sure sometimes they have bad days BUT if you treat them with the respect you want to be treated with and don't try to put the fault on them and be HONEST you probably never will have a problem! If your wrong you may get cited but hey if your breaking the law you desreve the citation. I would say this goes for 98% of all law enforcement! THERE HUMAN JUST LIKE WE ARE AND THERE JUST DOING THERE JOB AS MOST OF US DO!

Just my two cents!

Keep up the good work PFBC and other law enforcement agecies!

Captain Fathead
Hawg Wild Charters

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RE: anyone had problems with wardens - 8/21/2008 1:02:50 AM   
jrthe3

 

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Status: offline 		i have had my fair share of run ins with them 2 to 3 time a year fishing and 10 to 20 time a year hunt that is cause the game warden in my town has it out for me it is a small town and i kinda had a thing with is daughter me being 25 and her being 20 at the time did not make him to happy i had him to court 3 time for harassment he was told by the juge to back off but come hunting season he is on my a$$ again

one thing i have learned about the fish wardens is they get there big heads from carrying that gun but when they see you have one to they tend to change there tune  

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RE: anyone had problems with wardens - 8/21/2008 7:25:12 AM   
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RE: anyone had problems with wardens - 8/21/2008 8:15:24 AM   
pxatim


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Status: offline 		haha what!!!

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RE: anyone had problems with wardens - 8/21/2008 8:31:15 AM   
griffon

 

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Status: offline 		Just read the post above mine from jrthe3...  You will get it

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RE: anyone had problems with wardens - 8/21/2008 11:00:14 PM   
jrthe3

 

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Status: offline 		you can say what ever you want to  but if i put his name up her anyone that hunts in north western PA has had a run in with him or knows some one that has the guy is on a power trip 24\7 and will fine you for any and every little thing he can

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