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ORIGINAL: steelheadfillet




about 30,000 of these were feeding off all the westside tribs may 2007 thru june 2007.
the largest concentration I've seen in 30+ years of observing erie co birds.

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ORIGINAL: cp13

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ORIGINAL: steelheadfillet




about 30,000 of these were feeding off all the westside tribs may 2007 thru june 2007.
the largest concentration I've seen in 30+ years of observing erie co birds.

They should come back EVERY year....

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ORIGINAL: fisherofmen376

why are so many people "just sayin" right now? boy does that cliche get on my nerves. just sayin....

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ORIGINAL: swinger

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ORIGINAL: cp13

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ORIGINAL: steelheadfillet




about 30,000 of these were feeding off all the westside tribs may 2007 thru june 2007.
the largest concentration I've seen in 30+ years of observing erie co birds.

They should come back EVERY year....

 

Now if I could only find a bird that will eat pinners.

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ORIGINAL: spoonchucker

You guys can't be serious. The fish are ( have been ) there in the lower, and middle stretches, and more wil come. I can't say they are in "good" numbers in the upper stretches, but I haven't fish them that hard, or in good visibility. I have found a few though. This same conversation occurs every year, and every year the fish show up. One thing to consider, is that a couple of the rains after the fish started to show up coincided with a major cold front. The water temps dropped over 10 degrees in just a day, or two, and probabley limited the amount of fish movement.

I'm not sure whether folks can't see them, don't know where to look, or they're just not catching them. If it's the latter, I can somewhat understand. There have been some very serious "tough bite" days this year, and my catch rate is way down. It has nothing to do with low fish numbers though. In fact too many fish has been a problem at times. when they're stacked that tight, it's hard to presnt a bait to one group, without spooking another groups, and turning off the fish you are targetting.

Other than that, they have just been tough for me this year. I think the PF&BC has been using stamp money to improve the quality of their schools ( pun intended ), and they're better educated

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ORIGINAL: spoonchucker

You guys can't be serious. The fish are ( have been ) there in the lower, and middle stretches, and more wil come. I can't say they are in "good" numbers in the upper stretches, but I haven't fish them that hard, or in good visibility. I have found a few though. This same conversation occurs every year, and every year the fish show up. One thing to consider, is that a couple of the rains after the fish started to show up coincided with a major cold front. The water temps dropped over 10 degrees in just a day, or two, and probabley limited the amount of fish movement.

I'm not sure whether folks can't see them, don't know where to look, or they're just not catching them. If it's the latter, I can somewhat understand. There have been some very serious "tough bite" days this year, and my catch rate is way down. It has nothing to do with low fish numbers though. In fact too many fish has been a problem at times. when they're stacked that tight, it's hard to presnt a bait to one group, without spooking another groups, and turning off the fish you are targetting.

Other than that, they have just been tough for me this year. I think the PF&BC has been using stamp money to improve the quality of their schools ( pun intended ), and they're better educated

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ORIGINAL: SteelheadJim

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ORIGINAL: spoonchucker

You guys can't be serious. The fish are ( have been ) there in the lower, and middle stretches, and more wil come. I can't say they are in "good" numbers in the upper stretches, but I haven't fish them that hard, or in good visibility. I have found a few though. This same conversation occurs every year, and every year the fish show up. One thing to consider, is that a couple of the rains after the fish started to show up coincided with a major cold front. The water temps dropped over 10 degrees in just a day, or two, and probable limited the amount of fish movement.

I'm not sure whether folks can't see them, don't know where to look, or they're just not catching them. If it's the latter, I can somewhat understand. There have been some very serious "tough bite" days this year, and my catch rate is way down. It has nothing to do with low fish numbers though. In fact too many fish has been a problem at times. when they're stacked that tight, it's hard to present a bait to one group, without spooking another groups, and turning off the fish you are targeting.

Other than that, they have just been tough for me this year. I think the PF&BC has been using stamp money to improve the quality of their schools ( pun intended ), and they're better educated

You just dont get it chuck. there are plenty of fish way up the Elk. I saw them and caught some. I am talking about the lower river there just isnt a BIG bunch of fish there now. And there hasnt been a lot of fish in lower Elk for a week or so.  The last 2 high water events did not bring in a bunch of fish. Looking at the high water at Elk yesterday, there should be a load of new fish by tomorrow or tonight. If they dont come after this flood, my concern will only grow. Fish runs do crash. Dont go thinking these fish are exempt from such an event. I certainly do not have all the answers nor do I consider myself a steelhead god. But I have fished for them for 35 years in Alaska, BC, Washington, Michigan, Ohio and PA. How can anyone equate this to how high up are the fish?? For those of us who have spent considerable time on the river this October knows there appears to be a year class missing and a distinct lack of numbers opposed to past years. I also do not want to be an alarmist but the fact remains Where is the Mother Lode?? As I type this it could all be happening now. I am my desk in Michigan. Either these fish are late or they aint coming.