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The Pisarchick Buck -- - 10/26/2009 4:45:39 PM   
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RE: The Pisarchick Buck -- - 10/26/2009 6:07:37 PM   
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seems like a pretty cool story. i was impressed more with the turkey kills than the buck once i read the story though. i mean come on, you would think if you killed that many trophy animals youd have a good enough grip to figure it out yourself. Isnt that half the fun?

regardless, congrats to the hunter, you sure have managed to take a lot of big game trophies!

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RE: The Pisarchick Buck -- - 10/26/2009 7:26:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Great story and again congrats to the lucky hunter!!

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RE: The Pisarchick Buck -- - 10/26/2009 8:21:00 PM   
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Status: online 		Good read Doc..
See how the truth clears up all speculation....

Congrats on a monster of a buck to the hunter....

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RE: The Pisarchick Buck -- - 10/26/2009 8:22:20 PM   
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RE: The Pisarchick Buck -- - 10/26/2009 9:20:07 PM   
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RE: The Pisarchick Buck -- - 10/26/2009 9:25:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Answers my questions--- Glad to see he convinced Doc that we were also killing big bucks BEFORE Antler Restriction

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RE: The Pisarchick Buck -- - 10/27/2009 7:51:32 AM   
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Once again, congrats to Mr. Pisarchick on a great buck...and all those other trophies for that matter.

And way to go Doc, on getting 'the rest of the story.'

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RE: The Pisarchick Buck -- - 10/27/2009 10:39:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		Good read, good write and congratulations are in order for sure.

He obviously had a "little" experience!


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RE: The Pisarchick Buck -- - 10/27/2009 10:49:24 AM   
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You guys should have been there.. The albums of deer harvests were just UNBELIEVABLE....

It's like those old black and whites you see in magazines with ten guys standing in front of ten bucks hanging there...

and yes I knew there were some big bucks in the past but some of these "meat poles" photos were really exciting some had almost every buck being a trophy... but then some showed  the "scrub years " too

I wish I would have had more time to get a photo of some of them

Tom had a photo of his grandfather hunting at 90....

what a day it was for me....

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RE: The Pisarchick Buck -- - 10/27/2009 11:46:28 AM   
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Great job on the story!  What I find enjoyable is how your own excitement comes through in the story.  Keep up the good work.  I always enjoy your posts and photos

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RE: The Pisarchick Buck -- - 10/27/2009 12:14:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was impressed by the buck,but not so much by the way it was killed. Sounded more like a military operation than hunting. I mean come on, trail cameras,crossbow,tele-conferences. What next,lasers? Good thing that wildlife hasn't been able to use these electronics on us,isn't it.It is sad to me, to see all of these short-cuts that some guys will try, to be successful.What ever happened to Fair Chase? There has to be a line somewhere,I mean after all, we are hunting an animal,not someone that is shooting back. btw this is not sour grapes or anything like that ,just an old timer missing the old days when we hunted for fun. If this is fun,then I will have none of it.    sam

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RE: The Pisarchick Buck -- - 10/27/2009 12:35:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sam,  Everyone has to draw their own line in the sand at some point.  You have drawn yours, much as I have mine.  Personally, I don't use game cameras or a lot of the other items out there to "enhance" deer hunting success.  To me seeing deer on a camera is kind of like knowing your gifts before Christmas morning, and that just makes the surprise a little less.  That said, I use state of the art arrows, broadheads, treestands, bows...  There are those that use more resources and are beyond my personal preferences.  I carry no grudge toward them or their tactics/techniques, so long as they live within the laws of the land to accomplish their goals.  There are also those that would tell you the only true hunter uses a stick bow and cedar shafts.  In their eyes, I (and most others) have crossed the line they drew many times. 

Great job to the hunter and a beautiful deer (even though he may be the ugliest deer I have ever seen)

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RE: The Pisarchick Buck -- - 10/27/2009 12:43:27 PM   
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how's this for mean and ugly looking...



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RE: The Pisarchick Buck -- - 10/27/2009 12:51:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Much better, I like the pre bar-fight look better than the aftershot.  That said, I wonder if this deer might have been dying.  The drawn out look and discoloration hints of an animal that was either very old or suffering from some sort of disease/infection/injury.  I am glad the archer got him when he did, because if I were a gambling man I would have wagered this old boy might not have seen another spring. 

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RE: The Pisarchick Buck -- - 10/27/2009 12:55:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Game cameras could be considered a completely separate hobby.  Guess it all depends on intentions.  Sometimes I just want a pic of a buck I've already seen, just for a pic.  Sometimes I want to pattern a deer.   Private property generally GREATLY "enhances" deer hunting "success."  I know it.. cause I got access to alot of it.  I see more deer in two morning sits on one property than I do in 150 hours on public property some years.   I know where I'm headin' come December if I don't have any deer sticks.  And it ain't a place with 5-10 deer per square mile.  There are multiple "shortcuts" all of us take. 

Maybe we should all just hunt public property with baseball bats all the same length.   Would that be fair chase? 

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RE: The Pisarchick Buck -- - 10/27/2009 1:04:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Again amazing buck.

For those of you whining and cryin' about the "Fair chase" your full of it. If you had the opportunity, to harvest this buck like this guy did, you would have made it an obsession as well.

Great job guy.


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RE: The Pisarchick Buck -- - 10/27/2009 1:35:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		The switch from stick bows and cedar arrows to compound rifles started the downhill slide in being a true archery experience. Now the slide to crossguns with red dot scopes,graphite arrows, range finders, and trail cameras takes you further away from the sport and more into just shooting. It's just the world we live in and the natural use of technology but it has taken away from the original purpose of the season. The 15 bucks I took with the recurve standing on a limb or still hunting gave me more satisfaction than all the ones since. Having said that my shoulders will no longer take the gaff of a recurve and are close to not handling a compound so I may be forced to buy a crossgun in a few years if I want to continue that type hunting.

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RE: The Pisarchick Buck -- - 10/27/2009 1:58:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Game cameras don't make things "easy".  You still have to put in the time moving them around, studying the land to know where to put them, tending them........all of which takes time and woods-know-how.  Anybody can go put up cameras but will they end up with photos?

Game cameras make hunting a year round sport for me, my young soon-to-be-hunter, and my friends.  I fail to see how that can be a bad thing. 

Arguably, the rifle is an advancement over the flintlock.  So where does the madness end.  To each his own.

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RE: The Pisarchick Buck -- - 10/27/2009 2:09:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		I suppose scouting makes things to easy too ?   I mean, is there a difference if I spend every evening from July - October driving around looking out the window compared to setting up cameras ?

Tell you what, I see alot more shooter bucks driving around than I get on cameras.  On a good night, I can see more shooters driving around than what I get all season on cameras.   Cause I can cover alot more ground.   Maybe we should eliminate driving around too ?  If I see a buck preseason, I can't hunt him.  How about that.  Laugh.

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RE: The Pisarchick Buck -- - 10/27/2009 2:09:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just had a funny thought.. as for the mean and ugly look ??

As I was standing there holding those antlers I did make the comment that I would not have wanted to walk or run around in the woods with that on my head... they were truly heavy !!!

Maybe that help get his mean look ???

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RE: The Pisarchick Buck -- - 10/27/2009 2:19:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Kype,  I am not against others using cameras (not even a little bit, and I hope nobody thought I was criticizing anyone).  There is a huge difference between scouting every evening and setting out trail cameras.  With today's cameras, you don't even need to go into the woods after the initial set as many models will send activity photos directly to your computer.  Even if you check your camera every couple of weeks, you are still being less invasive than actually getting in the woods scouting every night.  It's also unfair to use the driving around analogy.  Driving around seldom leads to actually being able to pattern deer, other than where they feed at night (maybe entering fields).  With cameras, you can strategically set them on every access and trail, not only establishing which travel corridors the deer use most, but you can pick out the exact time they are using said trails, as well as locate exactly the buck you want to harvest.  As someone said, to each his own.  This is probably a topic that needs to be moved.  I have contributed to getting this topic too far off topic.

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RE: The Pisarchick Buck -- - 10/27/2009 2:29:07 PM   
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It's also unfair to use the driving around analogy.  Driving around seldom leads to actually being able to pattern deer



You kiddin' me ?    Where I hunt the deer travel up and down, the roads run sideways.  Much easier to find deer and pattern them driving around than putting cams out.   Like I said, I can see 25 shooters in a single night, yet get maybe 1-3 good ones on cam from July-December.    Not sure what yer talkin' about but it doesn't apply where I hunt.

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RE: The Pisarchick Buck -- - 10/27/2009 3:16:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, it might be getting a bit off topic.   But I guess I got questions when someone who hunts small strips of private property tells me cameras "enhance" chances of "success" and that's why you don't do it.  Just sounds a bit off to me.  Just sounds like you're saying that you're above all that.  It's no secret that hunting deer in small broken up forest is a FAR greater enhancement to create "success" than any technological advancement could ever be.   I understand where you're going with the satellite cams but I'm just sayin.

Good day griffon.

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RE: The Pisarchick Buck -- - 10/27/2009 3:40:38 PM   
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RE: The Pisarchick Buck -- - 10/27/2009 3:47:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SilverKype

Where I hunt the deer travel up and down, the roads run sideways.  Much easier to find deer and pattern them driving around than putting cams out.   Like I said, I can see 25 shooters in a single night, yet get maybe 1-3 good ones on cam from July-December.    Not sure what yer talkin' about but it doesn't apply where I hunt.



hit 'em with your car then jab an arrow in them... good use of technology

*Edit: had to add the smiley so no one thinks i'm serious

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RE: The Pisarchick Buck -- - 10/28/2009 7:21:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		silver, you must be riding in a game preserve, because up here in elk/cameron county you could ride for weeks and maybe lucky to see a deer let alone a shooter buck.. I run a cam/line..5 camera's just to get pictures of whats in there..bucks/big ones, but they all come our after midnight,,roadhunters will have bad time this year, have not seen a deer in last 100 miles of riding in prime time..

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RE: The Pisarchick Buck -- - 10/28/2009 8:30:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		Kind of ironic that this article showed up on ESPN the web this morning.

http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/hunting/news/story?id=4597240

Pretty good read and no I don't write for ESPN

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RE: The Pisarchick Buck -- - 10/28/2009 8:54:25 AM   
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Again amazing buck.

For those of you whining and cryin' about the "Fair chase" your full of it. If you had the opportunity, to harvest this buck like this guy did, you would have made it an obsession as well.

Great job guy.

How can you tell what someone would do? My opinion of fair chase is exactly that,my opinion. fyi I was still hunting with a recurve until I couldn't pull it back any longer, then I quit bowhunting & concentrated on getting a deer with my flintlock.If you want to get an idea what fairchase means get a book on the (Benoit Family) style of buck hunting.  Hope I spelled it right. I heard that they started to cheat also, that 1 of them actualy uses a scope.  lol  sam 

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RE: The Pisarchick Buck -- - 10/28/2009 9:12:10 AM   
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Status: online 		congratulations to everyone who hunts in a different way than the next guy, glad you're all unique! who cares. congrats mr. pisarchick on the buck of a lifetime

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