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RE: Weirdest thing you've caught a trout on? - 10/29/2009 9:33:28 PM

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fishing up in the mountains at loletta creek and was catching trout on peach rings and also on slim jims, they didn't like the oil on slim jims so had to watch for them to take it and then set the hook thought it was awesome.

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RE: Weirdest thing you've caught a trout on? - 10/30/2009 6:17:53 AM

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There's a big difference between hatchery trout and wild trout. I've caught hatchery trout on a size 1 hook covered with catfish (stink) bait.

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RE: Weirdest thing you've caught a trout on? - 10/30/2009 7:09:29 AM

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There's a big difference between hatchery trout and wild trout. I've caught hatchery trout on a size 1 hook covered with catfish (stink) bait.

And if you find wild fish in a remote stream, they're almost as picky.

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RE: Weirdest thing you've caught a trout on? - 10/30/2009 1:30:40 PM

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Well picky is one thing, able to figure out what is food and what isn't is another. Hatchery fish will eat things that resemble no kind of food found in the wild. Wild fish will not.

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RE: Weirdest thing you've caught a trout on? - 10/30/2009 2:44:54 PM

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Well picky is one thing, able to figure out what is food and what isn't is another. Hatchery fish will eat things that resemble no kind of food found in the wild. Wild fish will not.

Keep tellin yourself that.

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RE: Weirdest thing you've caught a trout on? - 10/30/2009 2:45:19 PM

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Well picky is one thing, able to figure out what is food and what isn't is another. Hatchery fish will eat things that resemble no kind of food found in the wild. Wild fish will not.

So that must explain why I see so many goons catching (wild)fish with massive doughballs and corn in Spring Creek right? Do you care to share what natural food corn and doughballs immitate there? Spring Creek has some of the most highly pressured wild fish in the state, where I saw this take place (several times) was no where near a hatchery for the record.

There have been plenty of times I have seen wild fish maul anything put in their faces. This is especially true, like Cold mentioned, in the small remote mountain freestoners. I have seen fish in these areas leap out of the water for tree buds, sticks, and even dart over and take a swipe at pebbles thrown in.

Your myth has been busted.

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RE: Weirdest thing you've caught a trout on? - 10/30/2009 3:28:21 PM

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Yeah dude sorry but you must have never fished a Wild trout stream.

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RE: Weirdest thing you've caught a trout on? - 10/30/2009 5:44:11 PM

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after telling my buddies its all in the presetation somebody caught a moth [white] an told me to present this to thoose locked jawed bas##$ so on the hook it went an i drifted it past one and bam fish on last time he doughted me

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RE: Weirdest thing you've caught a trout on? - 10/30/2009 6:25:53 PM

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i caught a great blue heron this spring at dunlap lake while trout fishing. best part about it was i was only using 6 lb test and i yanked him right outta the sky. i would have thought they were stronger flyers than that.

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RE: Weirdest thing you've caught a trout on? - 10/31/2009 8:14:06 AM

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Someone please show me pictures of all the wild brown trout you have caught on purple powerbait. Then I will shut up.

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RE: Weirdest thing you've caught a trout on? - 10/31/2009 4:26:51 PM

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I've caught plenty of native brookies on green weenies and I've never seen anything in the wild that looks like one.

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RE: Weirdest thing you've caught a trout on? - 10/31/2009 7:33:03 PM

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RE: Weirdest thing you've caught a trout on? - 10/31/2009 11:19:55 PM

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Never seen either of those in any of the brookie streams I fish.

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RE: Weirdest thing you've caught a trout on? - 11/1/2009 8:42:24 AM

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LOL! ok. Inch worms abound everywhere they are trees in Pennsylvania and Caddis are one of the most prolific aquatic larvae in the state.

Anyway, the point is that green weenies do look something in the wild. Unlike those things though, you're unable to wiggle out of this.

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RE: Weirdest thing you've caught a trout on? - 11/1/2009 11:17:35 AM

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All the native brookies i have caught, which number in the teens, were on globs of powerbait when i was 14. I really have never fished anywhere that had natives except jones mill creek in laurel hill state park. But rest assured the couple times i did they willingly took hunks of neon green powerbait. I'm not quite sure how natives became such an "elite" fish but when they are hungry they will eat things other than flys, nymphs etc... Even in a heavily pressured stream like jones mill.

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RE: Weirdest thing you've caught a trout on? - 11/1/2009 11:42:44 AM

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Hunks of green powerbait look and taste like food. See above photos please.

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RE: Weirdest thing you've caught a trout on? - 11/1/2009 2:18:48 PM

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Hunks of green powerbait look and taste like food. See above photos please.

Sorry, I think you give native fish a little to much credit.

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RE: Weirdest thing you've caught a trout on? - 11/1/2009 2:28:11 PM

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"I'm not quite sure how natives became such an "elite" fish"

They HAVE to be "elite", or "special. How else could those who target them be "elite",and "special"?

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RE: Weirdest thing you've caught a trout on? - 11/1/2009 4:52:40 PM

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I don't people that target wild fish are special at all. Bluegill are wild fish and they are among the easiest to catch. Your ad hominems are bunk brother.

The question is whether stocked trout and wild trout are the same. Anyone with any kind of experience knows they're not. The latter are much more wary.

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RE: Weirdest thing you've caught a trout on? - 11/1/2009 6:54:08 PM

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I don't people that target wild fish are special at all. Bluegill are wild fish and they are among the easiest to catch. Your ad hominems are bunk brother.

The question is whether stocked trout and wild trout are the same. Anyone with any kind of experience knows they're not. The latter are much more wary.

I never said conditioning does not play a role, sure it does and probably to a decent extent. What I question is are these fish so conditioned from living thier entire lives in a stream that they would never eat something that is not "natural" looking? I'm sorry if you disagree but these are not highly evolved creatures. They are driven by the most primal of instincts. The fight or flight mechanism does not work 100% of the time and wild fish are no different. So yea, while less likely than a stocked fish to hit something bogus, they are by no means exempt from making a dumb move and eating a twig or a giant glob of purple power bait.

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RE: Weirdest thing you've caught a trout on? - 11/1/2009 9:27:14 PM

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Someone please show me pictures of all the wild brown trout you have caught on purple powerbait. Then I will shut up.

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Hunks of green powerbait look and taste like food. See above photos please.

Aren't you kinda contradicting yourself here? A hunk of green power bait looks nothing like an inch worm or caddis.

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RE: Weirdest thing you've caught a trout on? - 11/1/2009 9:36:27 PM

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The question is whether stocked trout and wild trout are the same. Anyone with any kind of experience knows they're not. The latter are much more wary.

Anyone that has any experience fishing for wild fish knows that your theory is not true. I have fished piles of wild trout streams in PA, WV, and MD and would say that wild fish in the majority of these places are easier to catch than stocked trout and far less selective. I don't know what your basing your findings on, but I think you need to experience some more wild trout fishing to clear your thoughts up.

By the way, I routinely catch wild fish on blue egg patterns. Any idea what these represent? I have never tried purple egg patterns, although I am sure they would take some fish.

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RE: Weirdest thing you've caught a trout on? - 11/1/2009 9:42:29 PM

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Actually Essox, Sucker roe takes on a blue hue in the water. So blue egg patterns would be a natural representation of them.

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RE: Weirdest thing you've caught a trout on? - 11/1/2009 11:07:23 PM

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I have to agree with Esox that my experience with native trout is that they are super agressive feeders. Sure, they are spooky and you can't go plodding through the stream like a Clydesdale, but they will hit baits harder, faster and with greater regularity than stocked fish after they are in the streams for a week or two.

Natives are not used to be fed, they have eat whenever the food passes by, so they capitalize on every oportunity they can.

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RE: Weirdest thing you've caught a trout on? - 11/2/2009 10:45:10 AM

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"Natives are not used to be fed, they have eat whenever the food passes by, so they capitalize on every oportunity they can."

Exactly. Until experience tells them that it's not food, they assume that it is. They have to.

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RE: Weirdest thing you've caught a trout on? - 11/2/2009 11:12:20 AM

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Wild fish eat stones and twigs to help with digestion just as dogs eat grass. Read a book.

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RE: Weirdest thing you've caught a trout on? - 11/2/2009 11:19:05 AM

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"Color vision is a well-defined trait in shallow-water fishes of both oceanic and fresh water systems. It evolved, as it did in other animals, as a mechanism to allow the fish to better separate potential food items from the background. In the watery environment, the background may be either the bottom (normally a tarnish olive to green color) or the background may be the water itself. When looking horizontally through clear water, the background appears pale, silvery blue. This phenomenon is known as background space light and is caused by the scattering of blue light as it passes through the water. In water with a lot of suspended algae, the background space light is greenish yellow, and in tea-colored bog water, the background space light appears reddish brown.... Thus, for opportunistically feeding trout and salmon, flies or lures with strong coloration and/or a lot of flash--which makes them stand out strongly against the background spacelight--are great fish attractors.... Fluorescent colors stand out strongly against background spacelight of any color, and fluorescent shades of reds, oranges, purples, and chartreuse are highly attractive to salmon and trout.... For selectively feeding trout, color not only serves to separate the food organisms from the background, but also serves as one of the four major characteristics that triggers feeding (the others are size, shape, and behavior of the food item)...The question then becomes, how accurate does the color match have to be? It was a question that started me on a twenty-year experiment into the color preferences of selectively feeding trout. First I assured myself that selective trout are definitely sensitive to colors. They can and do distinguish between brown and olive, for instance... In response to the obvious question raised by this result, I found that even though trout can distinguish colors, they do not discriminate between very fine shades of any one color for selective feeding purposes. The reason for this lack of color hyper-sensitivity is simple: the food organisms vary slightly in color. If the fish were too color sensitive, much food would be lost. For selective feeding purposes, trout will normally discriminate between about four or five shades of a color, from the palest shade to the darkest. I also discovered that when matching some insects, a shade of a color different from the shade of the natural can be more attractive to selective trout; usually the more attractive shade has more chroma (the color appears more intense than the color of the natural)."

Borger, Gary. Color Vision in Trout and Salmon.

Still waiting for the pics of the wild brown trout caught on marshmallows and processed cheese.

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RE: Weirdest thing you've caught a trout on? - 11/2/2009 7:50:45 PM

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Wild fish eat stones and twigs to help with digestion just as dogs eat grass. Read a book.

How about you cite your source that says wild TROUT eat stones and twigs? I wonder if it says why they will dart at, eat, and spit out pebbles and twigs I have thrown in the water? I mean pebbles falling out of the air and into the water is about as natural of a food source as a wild trout could possibly find.

Secondly, if you are that positive that wild trout are not routinely caught on various baits with no resemblance to natural food sources, you might want to put the book down and try fishing. If you put some miles on those boots, I bet you can draw some realistic conclusions on your own.

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RE: Weirdest thing you've caught a trout on? - 11/2/2009 7:57:33 PM

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you might want to put the book down and try fishing. If you put some miles on those boots, I bet you can draw some realistic conclusions on your own.

Absolutely.

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RE: Weirdest thing you've caught a trout on? - 11/2/2009 8:45:03 PM

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One day, I put the rod down on the bank and picked up a stick. I then tied about a 10' piece of 1X tippet to the end, snelled a seagull feather to a bare hook and proceeded to hook and land a steelhead.
I wasn't so lucky on the 2nd hookup...the stick broke.

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