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kyler16 -> Trout beads like em or hate em? (10/5/2008 12:00:08 AM)

At a local sporting goods store trout beads were on said 150 for 49 cents. I picked up a couple packs because I saw guys last year destroying steel with them. Now after trying to look up things on them I havent had much luck, but it seems like most of the hook ups with trout beads would be similar to lining a fish or hooking them in the outside of the mouths.

Any opinions YA or NA

Im looking for opinions not arguments or accusations bout people being snaggers for using them. 



anadromous fly -> RE: Trout beads like em or hate em? (10/5/2008 12:18:10 AM)

No I don't belive that. I think if you fished them like a bankie with a drift rig and a 1-3 oz sinker and a long lead then yes it probable would be on the outside and or flossed. As a Fly fishing guide I know that it is not a popular technique with the purists, but steelhead are eating. The fish key on eggs from the smolt age till their return in the river. So fishing beads under an indicator or on a pin rod with or with out shot (pref with a little) you will see that 90%+ of the fish are inside the mouth. I have been fishing them for about 5 years now and am on the troutbeads.com website if you need more info.



kyler16 -> RE: Trout beads like em or hate em? (10/5/2008 11:09:17 PM)

can you get finded for using them an if a warden sees u land the fish with the hook in the outside of its mouth?



schlemoc -> RE: Trout beads like em or hate em? (10/5/2008 11:14:03 PM)

What colors and style do you find work best?



davef -> RE: Trout beads like em or hate em? (10/5/2008 11:34:01 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kyler16

At a local sporting goods store trout beads were on said 150 for 49 cents. I picked up a couple packs because I saw guys last year destroying steel with them. Now after trying to look up things on them I havent had much luck, but it seems like most of the hook ups with trout beads would be similar to lining a fish or hooking them in the outside of the mouths.

Any opinions YA or NA

Im looking for opinions not arguments or accusations bout people being snaggers for using them. 



Can you send me a pm and let me know which store as i'd like to try them also.



doubletaper -> RE: Trout beads like em or hate em? (10/6/2008 10:24:47 AM)

i carry a string of them with me. if i see a pair of hooters on the stream i throw them a string of trout beads. doesn't everybody?



killdeer19 -> RE: Trout beads like em or hate em? (10/6/2008 10:40:09 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kyler16

can you get finded for using them an if a warden sees u land the fish with the hook in the outside of its mouth?


Yes, Are they legal? I have a package I found at Joann Fabrics that look exactly like salmon eggs and would live to try them if they're legal.



PAFISHERMAN1981 -> RE: Trout beads like em or hate em? (10/6/2008 10:40:22 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: doubletaper

i carry a string of them with me. if i see a pair of hooters on the stream i throw them a string of trout beads. doesn't everybody?
LMAO



casts_by_fly -> RE: Trout beads like em or hate em? (10/6/2008 10:45:29 AM)

I used to use 5 and 7 mm plastic beads and heat them with a lighter.  Once they go soft, stick them to the hook and drop in a glass of water.  They are the perfect size for salmon eggs and you can get some unique colors.  They also sink at about the perfect rate with no extra weight.  However, the fish can feel that they aren't natural so I don't like to drift them.  I will use them for sight fishing when I can see the fish inhale it.  I've had a few days in crystal clear water where they have worked well.  I keep a couple in my boxes just in case.

You can line fish easily with them.  One time in the chutes about 6-7 years ago I tied one on as a dropper and cut the hook off just behind the bead.  I wanted to see if it was possible and how likely it was to line fish by fishing a dropper when they are that stacked (as well as what the effect of dropper length was).  Long story short there were no surprises.  Long thin line between flies with neutrally buoyant flies would catch (line) fish quite readily.  Since I didn't have the hook point on I didnt hook any, but you could see the egg suddenly 'pop' out of the fishes mouth as the current took the point fly down.  From that, I don't fish droppers when I'm sight fishing and I try not to add any extra weight on my line for the reason (it acts like a point fly, making your point into a dropper).

On their own, I don't think guys are trying to line fish with them for the most part.  But they do have a higher potential to line fish than other flies in my experience.

Thanks,
Rick



anadromous -> RE: Trout beads like em or hate em? (10/6/2008 11:18:06 AM)

LMAO
quote:

ORIGINAL: doubletaper

i carry a string of them with me. if i see a pair of hooters on the stream i throw them a string of trout beads. doesn't everybody?



GoState! -> RE: Trout beads like em or hate em? (10/9/2008 12:05:08 PM)

I recently tied them on flies, usually in pairs threaded on heavy mono with the ends of the mono melted to secure them after a friend of mine did it on some of his flies. I tied the pairs of trout beads on like barbell eyes, on several buggers to see if they work, kinda like an egg sucking leech pattern but with the two trout beads.  I have not tried them yet so i can't give an accurate review. 

You can get the trout beads at FishUSA.com.  They are at this link http://www.fishusa.com/catalog_product.asp?ProductFamilyID=%7B16DE6E03%2D88C8%2D4446%2D8328%2DED7A7932B6B3%7D

If anyone want to see one I can post a pic later.




Sage4wt -> RE: Trout beads like em or hate em? (10/12/2008 11:05:17 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kyler16

At a local sporting goods store trout beads were on said 150 for 49 cents. I picked up a couple packs because I saw guys last year destroying steel with them. Now after trying to look up things on them I havent had much luck, but it seems like most of the hook ups with trout beads would be similar to lining a fish or hooking them in the outside of the mouths.

Any opinions YA or NA

Im looking for opinions not arguments or accusations bout people being snaggers for using them. 



Can you send me a PM also and let me know what store, seeing we are neighbors?



spoonchucker -> RE: Trout beads like em or hate em? (11/8/2008 12:26:28 AM)

It is a form of "legitamate lining ". I know that doesn't seem to make sense. But the common technique WILL place the hook on the outside of the mouth. The difference being, that the INTENT is not allow the line to drift into the fish's mouth, and dragging the hook into the outside of it. The intent is to actually have the fish TAKE your bait, but to avoid the hook being taken DEEP along with the bead ( as is common with egg biters ). I has been used with regularity in places like Alaska, to PROTECT native fisheries.



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