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groceries.....no politics - 7/15/2008 12:53:10 PM   
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we grocery shop at three or four stores, chasing ad merchandise, bogos and the like, each week.  we did so yesterday.  today, we received a flyer from one of the stores that we shopped at and i couldn't believe how the prices jumped in one day....and these items were on sale.  some jumped almost a buck an item.  guess the price of transportation and the climbing prices of corn and wheat have caused this latest surge.  sure does hurt.

has anyone else experienced this is the past week? 

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RE: groceries.....no politics - 7/15/2008 5:09:53 PM   
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The past week? Hell, the past month!

With two kids at home and a fairly healthy diet for all of us, the cost to feed the family is getting crazy....



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RE: groceries.....no politics - 7/15/2008 5:37:37 PM   
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Sam's club and Aldi's....are the only places we go.

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RE: groceries.....no politics - 7/15/2008 5:43:34 PM   
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No more catch & release!

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RE: groceries.....no politics - 7/15/2008 5:44:51 PM   
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I'm getting ready to go grocery shopping right now  About 5 miles offshore 

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RE: groceries.....no politics - 7/15/2008 5:48:34 PM   
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It's just my wife and I and we spend somewhere in the area of 400 a month. That's without beef, all I can say is thank you for deer hunting. I take 5 per yr and we eat some every week through out the yr then the new season comes in. I may take 6 or 7 this yr.

Add to that the cost of fuel, home heating and vehicles. My wife puts in 300 per month on her 2 veh. and I use 800 a month, between 2 veh. and boat.

I would normally spend 1000 a month on eating out, misc. spending and going places on the weekends. Thats all stopped, no more misc spending money left after food and fuel.

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RE: groceries.....no politics - 7/15/2008 5:50:20 PM   
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That is so true. I fish salt and w/spending 50 out each time on fuel, everything hits the cooler.
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RE: groceries.....no politics - 7/15/2008 6:34:54 PM   
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Sam's club and Aldi's....are the only places we go.

Sam's, Wally World, Costco, and  GFS-frozen meat, vegies and fruit are great but their prepared foods suck.

Wally's regular prices are lower than most of Top's or Big Birds sale prices except for some of the loss leaders on the front page.
Sam's and Costco have the best meat unless you pay the big bucks for prime.

Never liked Aldi but I might try it again
Last time I went a can of green beans was all stems and mayo tasted strange.

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RE: groceries.....no politics - 7/15/2008 9:17:16 PM   
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5 kids at home,2 teen aged boys, eating machines!!!
Caned deer meat and lots of it!!!!

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RE: groceries.....no politics - 7/15/2008 9:46:39 PM   
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Rap

I try to grow as many vegetables as I can now also, at least it cuts down on the food costs during the summer. Additionally, I have even changed what I eat. For example, I try to eat as much whole grain pasta and rice as possible now since it is cheaper if you buy it in bulk and can last a long time. Additionally, in terms of meat, I try to eat as many fish as I can catch, which is pretty easy because I live in the land of 10,000 lakes right now. You should see my freezer right now, there are so many bluegills it is insane. I have also changed the way I fish, recently I have been using poppers joe flies, and other small flies to catch my limit of bluegills, with a few pike and bass mixed in, but I usually don't keep the bass. I don't pay any money for bait that way and fish from my canoe so no money on gas. The only thing I have to pay for is the gas to get there and even that is not too much since I have a honda civic. The world is changing as we know it and we must change or be left behind.

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RE: groceries.....no politics - 7/15/2008 10:00:59 PM   
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Carp was put here for eating as well. Im glad I dont like fish. Deer is better that beef if done right.pay people  25 bucks and hour building windmills and solar panels Or you can BAIL out companies that fail the public. Seems like an easy choice.  

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RE: groceries.....no politics - 7/15/2008 10:13:42 PM   
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I am trying to loose some weight and with the increase in food cost, this is a perfect storm if you will.  I am paying much more attention to what I am buying to eat and trying to eat less.  The higher cost of food is making my diet a bit easier.  I am less tempted to buy more than I will need.

On a slightly different note, our church is collecting more food than ever for our local food pantry.  The need is up, especially this summer. 

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RE: groceries.....no politics - 7/15/2008 11:50:54 PM   
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No more catch & release!

jon e, that is how i feel now.  track, i put in my first garden this year, only doing so-so, but will also put in another next spring.  mike, have seen them go up all along, but today's ad jumped like crude.  have deer hunted a couple of times, but not seriously.  have always been a duck and turkey hunter.  this year, i am serious about deer hunting. 

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RE: groceries.....no politics - 7/15/2008 11:57:13 PM   
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The world is changing as we know it and we must change or be left behind.
                                                                                                                              track, again how true.  had hoped to pick up a fishing boat for inland lakes in the next year or two, but i think i may come down to a canoe or johnboat and electric.  there are enough small lakes on both sides of the state line to take care of my needs.

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RE: groceries.....no politics - 7/16/2008 12:12:58 AM   
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Just ate the last pack of deer today....still have a little elk left.  Lots of fish until october rolls around.  As the kids get older the meat doesn't last near as long.

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RE: groceries.....no politics - 7/16/2008 12:17:53 AM   
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musky, those pa elk or out west elk?  do you butcher your own deer?

if i could afford it, i would hunt moose every year or so.  to me, just so much better that beef. 

you guys that hunt deer for food are way ahead of the game.  health wise, it is better than cow and tastes every bit as good.

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RE: groceries.....no politics - 7/17/2008 12:36:03 AM   
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I gotta get a deer this year.  Too many blown opportunities last year.  Funny how people used to hunt tor sustinence, then, as the quality of life improved, hunting became more symbolic and recreational.  Now, maybe the pendelum is swinging back the other way.

Grocery shopping used to be a combination of GE, Wally, and Save-a-lot.  Now it leans towards Save-a-lot more (as it's cheaper).  Traded the SUV for a Toyota Corolla.

The world is indeed changing.

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RE: groceries.....no politics - 7/18/2008 1:29:44 AM   
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Its been getting bad here too. I know water for example went from $3 to almost 5 mainly because plastic. I shop specials and a lot of times local markets have meat specials if you but so many lbs of meat you get a discount.

Now Giant Eagle may have some higher prices on certain items out local one has for every $50 you get 20cents off gas so I buy gift cards for all the stores I shop and I get free gas every 2 weeks in my truck and I take an extra tank a long so thats about $120 in free gas for buying gift cards. Think of all the tools or things you buy at home depot so take that and turn it into gas.

Back to the food. I have been buying more generics and also the valu time stuff from giant eagle. Its dirt cheap and a lot do taste good for your basic stuff so that saves some cash here and there.

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RE: groceries.....no politics - 7/18/2008 11:09:02 AM   
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Gnetlemen,
     I'm single and don't really cook that much but even in my case the prices hurt.  I used to eat many meals "out"  (if Mc Donalds counts as "out")  but now I find that I'm cooking more and more at home.  Ever try cooking spagetti for 1?  You have leftover spagetti for a week.  Thank goodness I like spagetti and other pasta products.  I have even taken to buying bulk burgers and just taking one out and cooking it up now and then.
    I really feel sorry for some of the people I see in the stores.  It sort of tears me up when I see a woman with a kid(s) who can't afford to buy the things she needs or be able to get the kids a treat.  But I guess that's OK with some people because the big money speculators are making their bucks.

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RE: groceries.....no politics - 7/18/2008 11:29:55 AM   
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i helped a younger woman out of a store a couple of weeks ago.  she had four kids and a buggy full of stuff.  my wife noticed but i didn't that she had a food card.  i mentioned that it must be tough to feed all those kids.  she said it was, that they were on hard times, her husband worked all the overtime he could and that they were sinking.  i didn't understand at the moment, but i do now and i really feel for her.  tough to be working class with a family these days.

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RE: groceries.....no politics - 7/18/2008 12:07:30 PM   
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Rap, they are Colorado elk.  I have been out twice and drawn cow tags twice.  I butcher my own, for two reasons.

1. It ends up being better cared for and tasting MUCH better.
2.  With the number of deer my family shoots each year, processing is not a viable option from a financial standpoint.

Before every one jumps down my throat.  I shot an archery buck here and my 14yo daughter shot a doe with her bow (she doesn't want to shoot any does with a rifle in the mountains, because hunting "is boring up there because there are not enough deer."

We also shot 2 bucks in archery in WVA and 2 in Rifle in WVA.  And I nailed a doe with a muzzleloader down there as well.

I don't even want to imagine what processing for 7 would have cost!

7 friggin deer and I got no meat left.  The elk is actually 2 years old and just a few choice cuts I have saved.  The way I wrap them they stay for almost 3 yrs frozen with no ill effects to the taste.

The elk was funny.  We got into them the first day and shot 6 in our group.  Some guys took them to the processer for $300.  I was out of tags and decided to butcher my own, so I drove up on the mountain and skinned and quartered it, put it in a cooler and then went back to the hotel to butcher.  We had kitchens in our room. 

You should have seen the look on the managers face when he walked in and saw 600 lbs of elk meat layed out on the counter.  We were almost asked to leave.....Oh well

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RE: groceries.....no politics - 7/18/2008 1:06:34 PM   
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mm, you'll survive, no doubt, maybe even put on a few pounds when the rest of us are exposing ribs.  would loved to have been there.

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RE: groceries.....no politics - 7/19/2008 4:50:26 PM   
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Well for starters, we have been for years, pretty much self suficent. Raise our own beef and every now and then a pig or so. Beef is BETTER than deer if raised correctly! But most only get to taste whats wraped in the see-throughs in the super stores. We can and freeze almost all our veggies and berries. Plus we have the fish we keep. Only meat we buy is some chicken here and there cause they aren't worth the trouble to raise for meat.

This year we put a chunk of the farm into veggies and let me say so far, we're more than glad we did! Wholesale prices on most stuff is even higher than I was thinking when planing this years crops last fall. Yes, it's tough on most people, but........ I can also say that while we're making more, we also as did everyone else, SPEND ONE HECK of alot more to put things in. CRUDE!!! Thats what to blame, period! Spin it any way you want, but thats the culprit. Not one thing we have was made without it.

I do look for the price of veggies to top off shortly (next week or three) then possibly even come down as more and more local veggies are ready. BUT, once the local stuff is gone, wait and see what will happen this fall! If you have the ablities, I would learn to can and/or freeze some local stuff this summer/fall. Could end up saving you more this fall/winter.



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RE: groceries.....no politics - 7/19/2008 7:38:27 PM   
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Hey Smitty, Good to hear from you and your observations about what makes us tick around here. We all need to become as self sufficient as possible, and enjoy the local produce.

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RE: groceries.....no politics - 7/19/2008 7:58:00 PM   
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smitty, my wife and i started last fall.  we will be buying more jars and hitting the flea market in rogers, ohio in late summer and early fall for lower priced veggies.

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RE: groceries.....no politics - 7/20/2008 12:51:05 AM   
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Hey Pappy, Good to hear from ya! Thought about callin ya, but we've only been able to get up here and there. When we did have a few days, busy unwinding. Probably be getting up spotty until Sept depending upon how the weather keeps things growing. Hopefully we can get you two on the boat with us this year or for some kind of fishin together!!! Will definatley have some more corn for the kids at Hermitage and will be in touch. Let me know if your numbers have changed.

Rap, as far as buying from Rogers, its not always fresh and/or local. Not saying its bad, just what I mentioned. Look for stickers on the stuff and look at the boxes they have piled up behind them. Those two should have some indication of where the stuff came from. And if you can't tell just ask, if they can't answer, it was probably bought at a wholesale outlet where things have been trucked in from all over. Or they just may not know as they're only the ones who take your money and tell you what they've been told to say. Heck, a dude at a local flea market buys the junk from pitts and chops off the bad stuff and sells it for fresh.... People eat it up about how good his stuff is, but they don't pay attention to the leaves behind the tables he's cut off and will probably feed to his hogs or what not. They think they're getting a deal on some stuff, but as mentioned, he's cut half of it off to ge to the good! Funny huh? Cheap is good, even when eating fresh?

Another thing to whatch and I've heard a few people talk about it is the vendors along side the road with the fresh and local signs. Sorry, but some of the stuff they're saying is local isn't, it's trucked in. A place up here was saying local tomatoes, cutes, and melons 1-1/2 months ago. Ya, there may have been some local tomatoes and cukes grown in a greenhouse here, but not the amount they had on the stand. Again, ask where things came from and see what kind of answer you get if you doubt things.

Another thing to ask about is what was it sprayed with and when. All sprays have some sort of do not harvest before XX number of days. Certain products that have a tendancy to get worms take longer after spraying till hravest, depending upon sprays naturally. You can contact your county AG dept for a better answer once you know what spray was used. Certain areas of the country, you can use defferent sprays, so... How do you know?

I'm not trying to scare anyone, but trying to give a little more indepth info with all the crap going on about the improted stuff and to an extent, our supposed to be local stuff. ONE OF THE BEST pieces of advise anyone can give is to wash any produce you get from anywhere throughly. Boiling always helps to kill most everything as well, but is not practical for all means of cooking, SO WASH YOUR STUFF GOOD!!!

We're fairly new to the comercial end of veggie (truck farming) so we don't know it all. But, I couldn't tell you what all we've learned in 2 years or so! It's amazing to be honest with you and like I said earlier, we've been pretty much self sufficent almost if not, my whole life which is 34 years. My pap is 92 and the stories I could tell you from what he's told me would make you think corn is a deal as compared to how it was grown when the model T's were still going.

Another thing to pay attention to when shopping esspecially at your smaller stores is the LOCALY GROWN signs. Many and I mean many are placing the prices on tags with locally grown on them. If they have those tags on some things and not on others, you know the answer. Most places won't stear you wrong! Also look for the pa ag sign and wic signs, they will also help to tell you some things or most are grown in pa. Go to your local town farm markets, most towns have them some where. Usually its only the local guys at places like that, but not always.

A great place to get local and fresh stuff from is the New Wilmington Produce Auction. I'm not a member (if they have any) or any thing like that. But, since I've been going there, I would say it's 99.9% local produce to the 50 mile area? Problem is if your buying for one family, things are sold there buy the lot. Get some people together, you'll get fresh, local, and wholesale at usually a fair price.

Like I said, we're still learning this comerical thing, but dang, way more to it than you think!


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RE: groceries.....no politics - 7/20/2008 8:34:47 AM   
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smitty, didn't realize you were so close.  can you give me some info on new wilmington's market such as what day they are open, where they are at, etc.?   figure we can make n.w. as fast as rogers.  i know down there we have seen some questionable produce (locally grown....yeah, right).  we were told it came from amish country.  anyways, an help will be appreciated.   

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RE: groceries.....no politics - 7/24/2008 12:01:32 PM   
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Hey Rap, internet problems or I would have emailed sooner. Here is they're website. http://www.nwproduce.com/

Currently they are running Mon, Tue, Thur, & Fri starting at 10am.

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RE: groceries.....no politics - 7/24/2008 12:28:11 PM   
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thank smitty.  will head over either tomorrow or next week.

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RE: groceries.....no politics - 7/24/2008 10:39:44 PM   
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I'll be running up with some stuff tomorrow. You see a little blue wagon with the mail man sign on the back, look for me, I'll still be there. Will have a tanish hat on with Smith Custom Design and Machine on it. Who knows about shirt as it will be an early one after a later one. Grab me on the shoulder.


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