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gas prices-not as bad as you think - 10/8/2008 12:36:12 AM   
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I did some research in the past few days on the price of gasoline. Do you remember when it was $3.10/gallon average nationwide in early June of 2007 and there were shortages of gas in the Southeast US? Lots of moans and groans all over the media and in conversations in regular life. Everyone was told to fill up down south, especially FL GA AL SC. There was some weather phenomenon but it escapes me now, maybe an early hurricane(the season starts June 1 every year). 

Well, the average cost of a barrel of oil in that month was $95-$105/ barrel.

In that month it went from $3.10 June 1 to $3.29/gallon June 30.

Now the cost as of today is $89/barrel and the price is $3.29/gallon and falling fast. Some predict in the next week or two it will be near $3.00/gallon.

I can tell you that I took a trip last week down south and ran into a few gas stations that only had 87 octane. I actually was recommended by a clerk to get in line at Lake Norman exit off I-77 because the gas was going to run out in 1 hour or so. I was only getting coffee and had 3/4 tank.

I guess the shortage in the SE could account for the slow fall, considering I saw $3.89/gallon in some spots.

In closing, I don't think they are gouging on the price of regular gas even though it still stinks to pay that much. I feel sorry for the truckers. No way diesel should cost that much, we don't have a shortage of diesel refineries and they are the way things get from point A to point B in this country.
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RE: gas prices-not as bad as you think - 10/8/2008 12:45:03 AM   
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Our local paper reported there were atleast two stations in town that only had regular 87 octane also...

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RE: gas prices-not as bad as you think - 10/8/2008 5:08:16 AM   
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Tell me when it gets under $2.50 a gallon and I will start to get excited. That's about where it should be discounting all the B.S.

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RE: gas prices-not as bad as you think - 10/8/2008 10:11:16 AM   
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SELECT A LOCATION TO VIEW TODAYS LOW AND HIGH GAS PRICES
http://www.gasbuddy.com/

Map with gas prices
http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx

I will definitely have a full tank before crossing the NC boarder.

I am thrilled to see Raleigh has the highest prices

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RE: gas prices-not as bad as you think - 10/8/2008 10:15:13 AM   
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While I am encouraged at the dropping prices of gasoline, that might not be as good of a thing as one would suspect.  Falling prices can indicate serious problems and may be the harbinger of worse times to come.  I do appreciate saving money at the pump, but I am also cautiously looking to the future.  I hope we have turned the corner on this economic mess, but am afraid the worst is yet to come.  Falling gas prices may be a signal of that.  Let's hope not.

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RE: gas prices-not as bad as you think - 10/8/2008 10:23:08 AM   
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marty, my sis lives in faith, about an hour outside of charlotte.  as of the past weekend, they were still having problems getting gas.

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RE: gas prices-not as bad as you think - 10/8/2008 10:27:31 AM   
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RE: gas prices-not as bad as you think - 10/8/2008 12:57:28 PM   
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Marty, just buy a length of rubber tubing and eat lots of chili with a side of baked beans.

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RE: gas prices-not as bad as you think - 10/8/2008 2:32:42 PM   
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Pretty accurate site Marty.  Luckily, I travel right by some of the cheapest current stations at $3.29 on Rte. 51 everyday.  Funny, BP and Sheetz were both $3.27 on my way home last night from work (were $3.38 in the AM) and are now at $3.29 this morning.  Buddys down in Texas are paying anywhere from $3.30 to $2.65. 

I agree with Bug though, short term it is going to help everyone's pocket books but for the longer term, I think it does not bode well for the overall national or global economy.  When demand for gas is down, it means that manufacturers aren't manufacturing and consumers aren't consuming.  There hasn't been that many Hybrids put into circulation yet!

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RE: gas prices-not as bad as you think - 10/8/2008 4:45:29 PM   
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Prices will continue to fall until the day after the election, I predicted this last spring when the prices went outta sight, the idiot needs something good to happen before he leaves and McCain will try and give the Reps all the credit for doing a great job of lowering prices

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RE: gas prices-not as bad as you think - 10/12/2008 1:46:06 AM   
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$3.17 today in Da Bergh

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RE: gas prices-not as bad as you think - 10/12/2008 5:36:15 AM   
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3.19 at sheetz in St. Marys

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RE: gas prices-not as bad as you think - 10/12/2008 6:51:09 AM   
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2.97 in warren and 2.71 in clevand subjet to fall more im hiting the lake so ill find out what the price at ashtabula

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RE: gas prices-not as bad as you think - 10/12/2008 7:03:49 AM   
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have no fear the american savior is here he walks on water has large ears and wears a garb from time to time and has many muslum friends and has little leading ability hes obma yahoo ok enough bs the world economy got killed by high fuel cost that was the lead to a lot of the mess and you had no clue who holds the deed to your house we sold are house off last year and it took almost a month to find out who held the deed it was sold off 6times in 7 years just do the math on that take 100k devide it by 7 years then sell it off pay out was 72k that is one big reason the market tanked they lost money o just becaus it sold early it hadanother 13yrs tO GO just greed we aint seen nothing yet more to come

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RE: gas prices-not as bad as you think - 10/12/2008 8:13:33 AM   
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I never mentioned anything about one party or the other when posting this, only wanted to se if WE ALL were getting screwed by a minor few oil companies in charge. I still think we are with the help of a few guys in places like the Mid East. It should be safe to say that both parties are to blame.

And greed is why the economy is the way it is today, too many would kill their own grandma for a profit. Then flaunt their bling to prove to everyone else they are succesful. This whole country is a bunch of Terrell Owens' mentality, it's about me and myself speaking in third person about myself.

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RE: gas prices-not as bad as you think - 10/12/2008 10:04:29 AM   
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question:  when oil was nearing 150.00 a barrel, gas was over 4.00.  now, oil is almost half that at 77.00 a barrel, why hasn't gas gone closer to 2.00?  i paid 3.19 yesterday.  shouldn't it have dropped in price more?

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RE: gas prices-not as bad as you think - 10/12/2008 1:16:28 PM   
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$3.19 last night, $3.17 avg. most places today. cheapest place in town down to $3.12. As someone else said... must be an election year, I just haven't heard any side take credit for the price drop. Two years ago same crap. Prices dropped just before November election.

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RE: gas prices-not as bad as you think - 10/12/2008 11:09:45 PM   
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when oil was 85 bucks a barrel, gas was 2$ or less a gallon. Im still not happy, we are still getting F-ed

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RE: gas prices-not as bad as you think - 10/14/2008 8:43:35 AM   
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Getting better.  Down to $2.99/gal. along Rte. 51 in West Mifflin/Pleasant Hills. 

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RE: gas prices-not as bad as you think - 10/14/2008 9:31:57 AM   
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Under 2.80 in Connie.

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RE: gas prices-not as bad as you think - 10/14/2008 10:45:14 AM   
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connie, eh?  getting close to home down here in youngstown.

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RE: gas prices-not as bad as you think - 10/14/2008 11:25:42 AM   
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Definitely stopping in Virginia before NC
Wow0what a difference in price 

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RE: gas prices-not as bad as you think - 10/14/2008 9:29:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: S-10

Tell me when it gets under $2.50 a gallon and I will start to get excited. That's about where it should be discounting all the B.S.


EXACTLTY! 

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RE: gas prices-not as bad as you think - 10/14/2008 9:33:32 PM   
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Just talked with my sister who lives in the DC area and she said it is $3.99 there, down from $4.50.

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RE: gas prices-not as bad as you think - 10/14/2008 11:04:28 PM   
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3 bucks a gallon still is not cheap.  We're just used to paying 4!  A year ago, we would have been screaming about 3!  Now we like it???  What has changed since then?  Not my wages!  It's all relative and three bucks is still expensive.

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RE: gas prices-not as bad as you think - 10/14/2008 11:12:02 PM   
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True. But what I was getting at was a year and 3 months ago it was the same price. Gouging by the big oil companies has been going on for a few years no matter what the pro-oil guys on here will say, we know that. The post was to question why it is so expensive and limited in the southeast US while we have all 3 grades here and the price is cheaper. And the BS that the different blends are causing the problem is just another shell game that some on here will buy into. No reason for there to be a shortage in the SE US other than greed.

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RE: gas prices-not as bad as you think - 10/15/2008 2:58:36 AM   
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$3.29 when I needed it in WV-put $10 in
5 miles down the road in VA $2.87
NC $3.09

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RE: gas prices-not as bad as you think - 10/15/2008 5:48:47 AM   
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2.99 it was in johnstown 5 hours ago thats 20cents cheaper then it was 48 hours ago. I remember when i got my drivers license it was 1.19..... when it goes back to that... oh haha what am i smoking must be dreaming on

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RE: gas prices-not as bad as you think - 10/15/2008 6:45:17 AM   
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RE: gas prices-not as bad as you think - 10/15/2008 8:06:38 AM   
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True. But what I was getting at was a year and 3 months ago it was the same price. Gouging by the big oil companies has been going on for a few years no matter what the pro-oil guys on here will say, we know that. The post was to question why it is so expensive and limited in the southeast US while we have all 3 grades here and the price is cheaper. And the BS that the different blends are causing the problem is just another shell game that some on here will buy into. No reason for there to be a shortage in the SE US other than greed.


Several reasons why they have a shortage Goby...just do a little googling and you'll get edumucated!  :-)  For your reading pleasure.
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From WKYC

Hurricane Ike damage causes gas shortage in the south


Posted 1 hr ago


DALLAS, TX -- A major pipeline that transports fuel from southern Texas across the northern part of the state and throughout the southeast was damaged by Hurricane Ike.

Now, drivers across the region and finding it harder to fill up as many stations have simply run out of gas.

Gas tankers lined up at one of the few distribution centers that still has fuel.

A three or four hour wait for trucks that supply neighborhood gas stations.

With gas supplies so tight, some gas stations are running out.

One motorist in Dallas says "that's really, really scary. No gas. What will we do? We won't be able to do anything. We can't go to work. We can't do anything."

The problem? Suppliers say Hurricane Ike damaged a major pipe line that carries fuel from the coast to the north. That pipe line is now working, but supplies have not had a chance to catch up with demand.

Experts say there should be enough gas to go around as long as people don't fill up needlessly.

A representative of AAA says "if everybody filled up right now we'd definitely run out. But if you only fill up when you need to, between the supplies getting to the retailer and using what we actually need it'll balance itself out and we won't have a problem."

As for the price, it's actually been dropping, even as supplies run so low.__________________________________________________________________________________________________________ From Reuters AlertNet

U.S. gasoline inventories lowest since 1967


By Tom Doggett
Source: Reuters
24 Sep 2008 21:24:48 GMT


WASHINGTON, Sept 24 (Reuters) - U.S. gasoline inventories shrunk to their lowest levels since 1967 after hurricanes Gustav and Ike shut Gulf Coast oil refineries, but the Bush administration said there is still no need to ask for emergency fuel supplies from European allies.

The drop in fuel stocks has caused long lines at service stations in southern cities. Some retail outlets, including stations in Atlanta and Memphis and as far away as Ohio, have run out of fuel.

"Some people are even following tankers to the station and then they descend upon the station," said Randy Bly, a spokesman for the AAA's chapter for southeastern states.

Nonetheless, U.S. Energy Secretary Sam Bodman said on Wednesday the Bush administration would not reconsider making a request to the International Energy Agency for emergency gasoline supplies. Bodman said last week the Energy Department was "reasonably satisfied" with the recovery of the U.S. oil sector after the hurricanes.

The Paris-based IEA was created by the United States and other industrial nations in the mid-1970s, after the Arab oil embargo, to coordinate energy policy and the release of petroleum stocks when needed.

Five U.S. oil refineries with a total production capacity of 1.231 million barrels a day have remained shut since Ike idled 14 plants, or a quarter of the nation's refined fuel production, nearly two weeks ago, according to the department.

The closed refineries have caused a drawdown in existing fuel inventories to help meet demand.

U.S. gasoline stocks fell 5.9 million barrels last week to just under 179 million barrels, down almost 19 million barrels from a year ago, according to the department's Energy Information Administration.

That leaves the United States with the lowest fuel stocks since 1967, when America's gasoline demand was just 5 million barrels a day, almost half its current daily consumption of 9 million, the EIA said.

Since Gustav struck at the beginning of the month, 52 million barrels of petroleum products have been lost at Gulf Coast refineries, according to Reuters data.

"Continuing reports of spot shortages of gasoline at some retail outlets where supplies have been most disrupted can be expected over the next several weeks," the EIA said in its weekly review of the oil market.

To help ensure adequate supplies and ease pump prices, the Environmental Protection Agency late on Tuesday waived federal clean air requirements for gasoline sold in Atlanta and surrounding counties in Georgia.

Gasoline prices nationwide have dropped as more refineries resumed operations. The EIA said retail gasoline costs may fall to $3.50 per gallon, "if not lower," by the end of the year, as long as there are no further supply disruptions.___________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Q & A
Many factors combine to fuel gas shortage
By TAMMY JOYNER
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Sunday, September 28, 2008

By the time you stick the nozzle of regular unleaded gasoline into your tank, your gas has endured an elaborate refining process and snaked through hundreds of miles of pipeline. Last week’s long lines and sea of plastic bag-draped pumps tell only part of the story. Here’s what’s going on, according to officials at the U.S. Energy Information Administration and the American Petroleum Institute:



GAS SHORTAGE

Q: Why are we having gas shortages in Atlanta?
A: Hurricanes Gustav and Ike hit back-to-back. The refineries shut down in anticipation of Gustav. Then Ike hit and the gas production and refineries didn’t restart because of power outages. That also affected the operation
of major pipelines that move gas from refining areas in the Gulf Coast to facilities throughout the Southeast.

Q: How long will the gas shortages last?
A: It’s hard to say. There are pockets of surging demand. People are trying to top off more in fear of shortages, so people are buying more gas than they’d normally buy. But this will not be a permanent situation.

Q: Why does it seem that there’s more of a shortage now than after Hurricane Katrina?
A: The stockpiles of gasoline and other products are lower now than after Hurricane Katrina. So current shutdowns are mainly due to power outages in the areas where there are refineries. The good news is they’re starting to come back online. Production will be restored faster than it was after Katrina and Rita because the refineries weren’t damaged as badly. As of Friday, only four of 56 Gulf Coast refineries remain closed.

Q: Have other places been as hard-hit as Georgia?
A: Mainly North Carolina and Georgia. One reason for Atlanta’s shortage was the area’s requirements for a special type of fuel. It’s a unique fuel affecting the sulfur content that’s required in 45 counties in Georgia. But the temporary waiver of the reformulated gas, combined with more refineries coming back online, should ease the shortage.

Q: The Northeast seems to have escaped the shortages? Why?
A: They have more supply options in the Northeast. There are more refineries along the way and they get supply from other parts of the country, in addition to the Gulf Coast refineries and pipelines. The Southeast depends mostly on Gulf Coast refineries and pipelines.

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