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Using Trolling Bags - 6/21/2008 7:45:39 AM

Brad1

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After reading the discussions on this board regarding trolling speeds, I have decided to try using trolling bags to try to get my trolling speed under 2.0 mph when trolling harnesses. I have purchased two 22" bags from Amish Outfitters. I plan to run a bag on each side as it seems to me that it would be easier to steer that way.

I found this article about how to rig / use trolling bags: http://www.fishusa.com/fisherie/captain/05.27.03.asp and it seems to do a thorough job of explaining how to deploy / use the bags. Just wondering if there are any other tips on using bags someone would be able to add.

Thanks.

Brad

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RE: Using Trolling Bags - 6/21/2008 8:39:34 AM

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what kind of boat do you have you may want to think kicker if you can you must be running a older 4cyl some times you can do a bump and go put her in gear and bump out or do s turns had the same problem with my 22ft when i got her she ripped lures then the real problem poped up need to rebuild the carb and adjusted the distrib i actualy rebuilt the dist got her down to 1-0 on a flat day 600rpm i now have a bigger boat and a 350 270 hp runs at 625 rpm port and 600 starbord = 1.0 to 1.3 mph on gps water speed will change due to wind and wave action

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RE: Using Trolling Bags - 6/21/2008 9:21:25 AM

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mount off the side cleats and go...you just will have to play with the length of rope thii they are both right. You'll get it

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RE: Using Trolling Bags - 6/21/2008 1:48:26 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: leadmen

what kind of boat do you have you may want to think kicker if you can you must be running a older 4cyl some times you can do a bump and go put her in gear and bump out or do s turns had the same problem with my 22ft when i got her she ripped lures then the real problem poped up need to rebuild the carb and adjusted the distrib i actualy rebuilt the dist got her down to 1-0 on a flat day 600rpm i now have a bigger boat and a 350 270 hp runs at 625 rpm port and 600 starbord = 1.0 to 1.3 mph on gps water speed will change due to wind and wave action

I have a 22 footer with a Yamaha F225 outboard. The boat is pretty heavy (manufactorer claimed dry weight with no motor is 3,400 lbs). I really like the way the boat is propped right now, so I don't want to play around with a different pitch prop to achieve a slower trolling speed. I really don't want to add a kicker either because I don't want the additional weight in the stern, and I don't want to invest the money right now. What's more, I don't have the time right now to install / rig the kicker.

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RE: Using Trolling Bags - 6/21/2008 1:52:00 PM

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mount off the side cleats and go...you just will have to play with the length of rope thii they are both right. You'll get it

CB, so your recommending side cleats as opposed to the forward cleats like D & D mentioned? That was really my biggest question, whether to mount off the side (midships) cleats, or foward cleats (both sides of the bow).

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RE: Using Trolling Bags - 6/21/2008 2:06:57 PM

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You just dont want them going under your boat...that would be bad news...

Im not 100% sure where your side cleats are...ive seen alot of guys mount them off where the bow rails start too...We set bags up on my buddies 23 Steiger and it took a little shortening of the lines, but his mid cleats where up beside the pilot hous so it was an easy setup. If your cleats are further back it might take some thinking on your part.

Get me a pic of the grady i might be able to help you out.

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RE: Using Trolling Bags - 6/29/2008 7:46:06 PM

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I run a 24 ft trophy and use two bags attached at the mid ship cleat. Adjust line to just get bag completely submerged. Also, I attach another line to the other end and attach that line to the stern cleat, this allows you to get the bag out of the water very quickly by grabbing the stern line. I can get my boat which is running a 5.7 Mercruiser down to about .8 mph on the gps which is fine for walleye and still use at least one bag when trolling on Lake Ontario where your trolling speeds are anywhere from 1.5 to 3mph for salmon. The bags will slow you down and also act as a shock absorber on those choppy days. I have never had a problem with fish getting tangled in the bag or the lines attached to them. Good fishing and tight lines.

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RE: Using Trolling Bags - 6/30/2008 8:20:24 AM

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Thanks guys. I gave my bags a try this past Saturday.

I ran them exactly the way you described kc. Tied to the midship cleat, with the pull line in the back (I found an online article from D & D explaing how to do that). There was a pretty good wind on the lake this past Saturday. I had my full storm enclosure up and with the wind at my back, I was reading anywhere from 3 to 4 mph on the GPS before I deployed the bags. When I put the bags in, I was reading about 1.8 to 2.5 mph with the wind at my back.

I ran two (one on each side) of the 22" Amish Outfitter bags. They worked very well and seem to be well made.

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