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Use Scuds? - 4/1/2008 2:32:11 PM   
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Status: online 		Does anybody here use scuds on lakes? Particularly Lake Arthur. I'm planning to tie some but wanted to "test the water" first, so to speak. 

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RE: Use Scuds? - 4/1/2008 8:38:10 PM   
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RE: Use Scuds? - 4/1/2008 10:58:59 PM   
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RE: Use Scuds? - 4/3/2008 9:13:06 AM   
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Does anybody here use scuds on lakes? Particularly Lake Arthur. I'm planning to tie some but wanted to "test the water" first, so to speak. 


I think I would venture more to the side of dragon fly nymphs, damsel flies, cranefly larvae and midges. I do believe scuds need moving water. I could be wrong.

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RE: Use Scuds? - 4/3/2008 10:27:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: jlh42581

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ORIGINAL: luvinbluegills

Does anybody here use scuds on lakes? Particularly Lake Arthur. I'm planning to tie some but wanted to "test the water" first, so to speak. 


I think I would venture more to the side of dragon fly nymphs, damsel flies, cranefly larvae and midges. I do believe scuds need moving water. I could be wrong.


Scuds just need cool, clean water. They can live in lakes and ponds. The lake that drains into yellow breeches is a good example. It dumps a lot of scuds into the stream.

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RE: Use Scuds? - 4/3/2008 12:47:04 PM   
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Status: online 		Damsel and Dragon nymphs are excellent on Arthur, but I've been doing some reseach on scuds and according to what I've read they occur in lakes and some ponds as well as rivers and streams, and I just would like to give them a try.

I had a real surprise last summer when after the first time in years a size 10 damsel nymph failed to produce (that means sporadic fish; not none. It always get at least a few hits.) a friend got me to switch to a size 18 Skip nymph, which is maller than anything I normally use there, and I suddenly couldn't keep the fish OFF the hook. I think they took it for a baetis nymph, but no matter their impression the experience got me thinking about what else is in there and what other approaches I could try.




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RE: Use Scuds? - 4/3/2008 1:04:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: luvinbluegills

Damsel and Dragon nymphs are excellent on Arthur, but I've been doing some reseach on scuds and according to what I've read they occur in lakes and some ponds as well as rivers and streams, and I just would like to give them a try.

I had a real surprise last summer when after the first time in years a size 10 damsel nymph failed to produce (that means sporadic fish; not none. It always get at least a few hits.) a friend got me to switch to a size 18 Skip nymph, which is maller than anything I normally use there, and I suddenly couldn't keep the fish OFF the hook. I think they took it for a baetis nymph, but no matter their impression the experience got me thinking about what else is in there and what other approaches I could try.





You are fishing bluegills at Arthur?


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RE: Use Scuds? - 4/3/2008 8:38:00 PM   
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Status: online 		Mostly 'gills, but pretty much everything that bites! 'Gills, perch and Crappie take that Skip nymph well. The Damsel nymph scores gills and bass. 

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RE: Use Scuds? - 4/4/2008 8:40:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: luvinbluegills
'Gills, perch and Crappie take that Skip nymph well.


Interesting, thanks.

Perch love tiny clousers too.  I bet Crappies would as well.

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RE: Use Scuds? - 4/6/2008 8:06:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you tie any small fly and can't catch a bluegill on it at lake Arthur, throw it away and never tie one again.Because no fish is going to eat it, anywhere, ever.  Now, they might not be big bluegill, but you should catch something on it.  I'm sure there are patterns that work better than others, but just about anything will work.

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RE: Use Scuds? - 4/20/2008 2:37:37 AM   
luvinbluegills


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Status: online 		Learned a few things today:

1) 6x Orvis Mirage can pull a surprisingly large branch through the water, and

2) Ther emost definitely are scuds in Arthur. The bunch I saw were grey (like their land dwelling cousin) with olive overtones with tan legs, and were the size of the #18 nymph I was using, meaning they'd be good tied on a 16 hook. They're surprisingly strong as when they fell between my fingers it felt like they'd shove my hand open to get away! I also realized

3) Another thing I'd forgotten to put in my new vest: specimen vials. I've got a nice bug collection and would've loved to add a few of those scuds to it. Maybe next time!


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