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Turtle Creek. - 5/14/2007 6:19:50 AM   
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Walked a good mile of Turtle Creek yesterday and was continually baited by creek chubs. Water is low, very clear and warm enough to wade in sneakers and shorts!
I thought the trout had all been fished out but came across a hole that clearly visibly contained about 50 trout from 7" to Palamino. They would not take a thing but  occasionally chased minnows that were hanging with them.....it was like an aquarium. Are these fish doomed to die as the water warms or would a good fall of rain disperse them, get them feeding again for that last bit of action?
I ask these questions as I am not all that familiar with local fish behaviour.
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RE: Turtle Creek. - 5/14/2007 10:56:20 AM   
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Swans -

Their chance for survival depends on a lot of factors, with probably the three biggest being water temperatures, rainfall and water quality.  Last year, I caught trout from a small stream in Butler County until January (1/4/07 was the last day I fished it this winter) and the last stocking was in May.  All through the summer last year, there were trout in this stream, which I would guess is pretty similar in size and depth to Turtle Creek.  Last spring we had lots of rain (especially in May) and pretty mild temperatures well into June.  The water quality of the stream I fish is not excellent by any stretch of the imagination and was made worse last summer and early fall by a huge construction project along miles of the stream and the trout survived.  You've also got to take into account angling pressure and critters eating the trout too.

If it's a hole that doesn't get much more pressure this spring and summer, and we get average or above average rainfail, you might find some trout there next fall.  I wouldn't recommend fishing for these fish once we get into mid to late June, as the higher water temps coupled with a fight will kill them pretty easily (that is unless you're gonna keep 'em anyway, then go for it). 


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RE: Turtle Creek. - 5/14/2007 5:10:03 PM   
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I think it will pick up if we get some rain.  Cooler temps the last couple days cant hurt either.

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RE: Turtle Creek. - 5/14/2007 5:34:57 PM   
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Thanks guys for that info.
I do keep my five if I get them as I like eating trout...although.....the eating qualities of the T Creek trout this year seems down. Last year they were tasty and quite flaky whereas this batch seems a bit mushy. Maybe my imagination, hey?

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RE: Turtle Creek. - 5/14/2007 5:41:31 PM   
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Think DanesDad is right on.  I fished a stream Friday late morning.  Could see lots of trout, but casts had to be PERFECT because of the low, clear conditions.  Had to get your bait to stop right in front of their nose, and even then they were very, very light takes.  Wouldn't have known I had a bite if I hadn't seen the bait in their mouth. 

Need some rain in a bad way.

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RE: Turtle Creek. - 8/6/2008 11:03:01 PM   
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Yeah most trout streams are doomed in mainly late July & August. Sadly, Pennsylvania is one of those states where drought really takes a toll on many of the creeks and small streams of our beautiful state. It's when most fish die because of the rising water temperature.. Trout just can't survive. If you've noticed the trout stockeries don't stock in July and August because the fish are doomed with the air temperature and such. Oh well, there's always October!

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