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Rough night - 11/6/2008 9:48:36 AM

Deadbolt401

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Well last night, my hunting partner and I went to the same area where I got my buck.

He saw a monster 11 there tuesday night, no shot.

Wednesday night, as I'm sitting there HAMMERING a snickers bar I stole from children. He showed at the top of the hill.

My buddy and I were in treestands 60 yards apart, I grunted, he came RIGHT to him.

He took the shot, it looks like a half liver/gut shot.

Followed trail of thin blood drops/small puddles then 40 yards of nothing, then more blood. Gave us last night at about 10.

Going out now.

I'm sick. If we don't find this deer I may just cut my arms off.

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RE: Rough night - 11/6/2008 10:25:38 AM

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If he hit the liver, that's a dead deer. It's still likely a dead deer if he hit it in the guts.

Hopefully you don't have to cut your arms off.

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RE: Rough night - 11/6/2008 10:31:53 AM

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How long did you let him go the first time before you started tracking? Liver shots can go a LONG way, but he will die. Got any tracking dogs in the area, this one sounds like he is worth it.

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RE: Rough night - 11/6/2008 11:27:10 AM

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I hope you find him but it would have been much easier to back out on go for him in the morning. If you know the shot was questionable, better to wait.

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RE: Rough night - 11/6/2008 1:15:07 PM

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Good luck on the buck - I know how it feels unfortunately...

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RE: Rough night - 11/6/2008 1:57:42 PM

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When in doubt back out. From past experience if its hit in the liver after a while fever will set in. The animal will head for water, check any ponds or streams nearby. I seen one actually go into cattails in the pond and lay down. My brother shot a nice buck couple years ago bout 500yrds later only thing i could see was the rack in the cattails. He also hit it in the liver.

GL hope you find him for the yotes get him

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RE: Rough night - 11/6/2008 6:05:08 PM

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Last night we waited half hour after we shot him, got down, went to get flashlights and came back 2 hours later and started the search.

Followed trail for 100 yards. Lost it. Called in 2 experienced archers. Waited 1 hour for them to show up. Showed them the arrow they said MAYBE chunk of liver, but mostly gut. they re-found trail, followed it for another 100 yards, stopped lost it for the night. We both went home. Came back at 8 am with another buddy, searched until 11 am. At 11 am, Buddy found blood drops 200 yards away from where we stopped last night. As I walked to him, I discovered a trail to him, looked like fresher blood. Went to him, followed some more blood for 40 yards. Funny thing is, most of it wasn't dried up. Only the edges. Walked for 40 more yards looking for more blood, and we kicked a big deer down over the hill, no confirmation on if it being him. But was a big bodied deer, and the blood trail led us to him. So chances are it was. I went to where he fled down the hill just minutes earlier, and found dried blood on leaves there. There's no way, the deer dropped blood and it dried already. We scoured the area and lost the trail. Called it for the day.

I'm sick, I can't imagine what he feels. We've seen this guy spotting many times, and he's seen him from far away a few times.

Yeah, we probably should have waited, but if the deer wasn't dead 19 hours after he'd been shot. Will he die?

After closer examination on the shot and everything, the arrow was sticking outta the ground at a low angle, which brings the thought of maybe he was hit real low, and skimmed the ponch, or whatever. Because I don't think an arrow would go right through and have the velocity to stick in the ground.

Ohh and when the deer jumped today, he wasn't limping or anything.

any thoughts are greatly appreciated.

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RE: Rough night - 11/6/2008 7:31:52 PM

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Had the same thing happen to me back in 97. I shot a 9pt through the liver and it came out through the guts. I did not find it until the next evening almost 20hrs later. He was still alive but couldn't get up. I finished him off. The reason for your very spotty blood is because the guts are probably filling the exit hole. You will only get a drip every so often. That is what mine did. Don't give up on him yet. Start looking in bedding areas. Thats what I did and now he's on my wall..........

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RE: Rough night - 11/6/2008 7:38:43 PM

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ORIGINAL: Deadbolt401

Last night we waited half hour after we shot him, got down, went to get flashlights and came back 2 hours later and started the search.

Followed trail for 100 yards. Lost it. Called in 2 experienced archers. Waited 1 hour for them to show up. Showed them the arrow they said MAYBE chunk of liver, but mostly gut. they re-found trail, followed it for another 100 yards, stopped lost it for the night. We both went home. Came back at 8 am with another buddy, searched until 11 am. At 11 am, Buddy found blood drops 200 yards away from where we stopped last night. As I walked to him, I discovered a trail to him, looked like fresher blood. Went to him, followed some more blood for 40 yards. Funny thing is, most of it wasn't dried up. Only the edges. Walked for 40 more yards looking for more blood, and we kicked a big deer down over the hill, no confirmation on if it being him. But was a big bodied deer, and the blood trail led us to him. So chances are it was. I went to where he fled down the hill just minutes earlier, and found dried blood on leaves there. There's no way, the deer dropped blood and it dried already. We scoured the area and lost the trail. Called it for the day.

I'm sick, I can't imagine what he feels. We've seen this guy spotting many times, and he's seen him from far away a few times.

Yeah, we probably should have waited, but if the deer wasn't dead 19 hours after he'd been shot. Will he die?

After closer examination on the shot and everything, the arrow was sticking outta the ground at a low angle, which brings the thought of maybe he was hit real low, and skimmed the ponch, or whatever. Because I don't think an arrow would go right through and have the velocity to stick in the ground.

Ohh and when the deer jumped today, he wasn't limping or anything.

any thoughts are greatly appreciated.

Get a dog, any damn dog will do, if you can find a bloodhound/shorthair/beagle all the better. If not, take your moms dog. Once that dog hits that trail you follow him, just let it do its thing. Bet you find it. I had my mothers dog take me down a ridge once right to a doe with a broken leg middle of summer. That dog wasnt trained to track anything.

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RE: Rough night - 11/6/2008 8:40:24 PM

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Dont give up!

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RE: Rough night - 11/6/2008 8:59:15 PM

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I new a fella that had a deer dog. Bought it down south..Was an amazing tool for finding wounded deer..

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RE: Rough night - 11/6/2008 9:57:18 PM

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Well Guys thanks for the input, I'll be hunting this area hard next week, I want a doe, and if I can push/call/grunt or bribe the deer for my buddy I will.

I just don't know, maybe he isin't dead? The shot could have missed. From PM's, posts here, and insight from friends.We've decided we're going to wait until Sunday, and look for bedding areas.

Maybe we'll take a dog along. Covered in orange.

Thanks all.

any ideas let me know.

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RE: Rough night - 11/7/2008 12:07:34 AM

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any coyotes in the area, if so spend an evening out listening

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RE: Rough night - 11/7/2008 12:25:23 AM

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Nope, he's in Allegheny County. Never saw a coyote there in my life. There is always a first though!

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RE: Rough night - 11/7/2008 10:38:12 AM

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Yeah there's coyotes. We saw 6 at once on the land owners private runway.

Saturday we're going to hunt, If I hear something, I'll get down and look!

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RE: Rough night - 11/7/2008 9:10:11 PM

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Deadbolt...

I AM CONFUSED !!!!!

In your first post you wrote ----

quote:

He took the shot, it looks like a half liver/gut shot.

Followed trail of thin blood drops/small puddles then 40 yards of nothing, then more blood.

Then you wrote you showed the arrow to friends...

quote:

Showed them the arrow they said MAYBE chunk of liver, but mostly gut. they re-found trail

Now you write ----

quote:

The shot could have missed

HUH ????????????????

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RE: Rough night - 11/7/2008 9:23:37 PM

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quote:

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I AM CONFUSED !!!!

I can see nothing has changed here...

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RE: Rough night - 11/7/2008 11:25:52 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dr. Trout

Deadbolt...

I AM CONFUSED !!!!!

In your first post you wrote ----

quote:

He took the shot, it looks like a half liver/gut shot.

Followed trail of thin blood drops/small puddles then 40 yards of nothing, then more blood.

Then you wrote you showed the arrow to friends...

quote:

Showed them the arrow they said MAYBE chunk of liver, but mostly gut. they re-found trail

Now you write ----

quote:

The shot could have missed

HUH ????????????????

At first we thought the shot was Liver/gut.
Then
Other people looked with fresh eyes and said mostly gut.
Then
After 20 hours of tracking, we also thought we could have grazed him. IE missed. I should have made my posts clearer.

sry.

Will be hunting the same stands tomorrow afternoon. I hope he shows, even if we don't get a shot. Just hope he's still out there!

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RE: Rough night - 11/8/2008 6:16:47 AM

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Thanks for explaining.........

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RE: Rough night - 11/8/2008 8:36:05 PM

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If it was gut you would know. Just smell the arrow...........

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RE: Rough night - 11/10/2008 12:13:04 PM

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I agree. You would know if it was a gut shot, by smelling the arrow.

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RE: Rough night - 11/10/2008 1:20:08 PM

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Yeah just smell it and barf your guts out

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