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Quit Stealing Our Money! - 10/23/2008 1:41:39 AM

chrisx2828

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Ok so I spent 4 days at the salmon river just to find out that these fish have no apptite and the stomach of these fish is the size of a pea due to not eatng and having their stomach swell closed. I went to fish erie USA main shop and spent over $200 listing to the sales man sell me alot of BS telling me this is what I needed to catch these fish. He lied! According to policy I am not allowed to tell you that these fish are inactive and will only get caught from a certain teq, so I wont! But dont spend alot of money until you come down and see for yourselves how to catch these fish, thats all i can say! Later and tight lines!!!!!!!!

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RE: Quit Stealing Our Money! - 10/23/2008 8:41:31 AM

Catching Chrome

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I catch fish regularly at the Salmon, Maybe you need to refine your technique.

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RE: Quit Stealing Our Money! - 10/23/2008 8:54:25 AM

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I think it was just the fisherman. Not the bait store selling you the goods. No one else seems to have the problem you were having.

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RE: Quit Stealing Our Money! - 10/23/2008 9:15:37 AM

hot tuna

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$200.00 , sounds like you got off easy. I have thousands of dollars invested in equipment which I use regularly on the Salmon River. Is this something that people need to do ? heck No. I play a different game .Myself and clients have no issues with catching fish legally and more important ethically. Do we always catch fish, absolutely not ! it's called fishing not catching. I think it seems you may have gotten snake bit into thinking they can not be caught by ethical means. Don't feel bad, it happens all the time on the river and it is my only reason for wanting to guide there, to teach and help people understand proper methods on how to "catch" fish. Honestly it is the most difficult place to guide. IMO the salmon river is the most disrespectful river I have ever encountered. Something that really disturbs me as to why folks wont fish ethically. Many times I do not wish to ever step foot in the Ontario tribs due to this fact but if I were to do that than I would just be admitting defeat and let "them" take over at what should and could become a spectacular fishery.

May I suggest, if not for you but for our future generation of fishers (I think you said you took your 12 year old) that you hire a very reputable guide who will show you ethical practice. Yes there are many guides on the river and there are many who "may" practice "certain" methods as you described. But I can tell you there are some very good people who would teach people well. Now I know , I'm not here to promote and I would doubt you would accept my service, that’s not what I'm trying to pitch.
In my mind and eyes there is only 1 person who I feel is the very best guide for this on the Salmon River.
Loren Williams http://www.flyguysoutfitting.com/
Loren has my up most respect and is again what "I" feel the best Salmon River guide.
I would give him a try next salmon season and he may open your eyes to a different perspective.
Even IF you decide not to take that advice than please continue to research all you can on proper methods and ways to ethically catch salmon. Remember not every fish in the river will strike or bite, you may not catch a fish every time you go fishing but the most important part is to keep a positive attitude, never stop learning ,enjoy the day on the water and show our children how to become true sportsman.

heck it only fishin'

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RE: Quit Stealing Our Money! - 10/23/2008 9:22:21 AM

leadmen

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its a known fact salmon who spawn stop eating .
its also a fact salmon bite other fish to stop them from eating there eggs fact.
they do bite out of reaction not hunger.
i my self use scane or a spoon or a rattle trap or others too choose from if you do not put in front of ther nose no bite if color off no bite if size too small no bite or fish not there no bite i have taken guys up with me who had no clue they listend to what i had to say set there rods up and let them fish they left very happy with some fish (nlav) no longer a virgin if you want to cAtch up some time drop me a line i fish ohio waters and newyork and canadian waters for the steelies and salmon if you missed the fall run of kings a spring run is in apr /may not as big but they still run and lot less leaves to deal with

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RE: Quit Stealing Our Money! - 10/23/2008 11:59:53 AM

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It's a tackle dealer's fault that the original poster doesn't know how to fish?

That's funny stuff.

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RE: Quit Stealing Our Money! - 10/23/2008 3:30:03 PM

leadmen

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ruel no 1 learn what fish you are fishing for when learned have fun getting the net but mother neature will always put a curve in your thought

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RE: Quit Stealing Our Money! - 10/23/2008 4:24:14 PM

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Cris, sorry to hear you didn't have a great time. Anyone who says they always catch Salmon, never got skunked, etcc... is BS-ing you. Most people I've known who have gone to the Salmon River for the first time (or many times) have had very high expectations and never had a hook-up. It's easy to get caught up in the photos and size of the fish. Reality can be very disappointing. It is a different type of fishing. You have to be in the right place at the right time with the aggressive, un-chucked and ducked fish. Fish that have been chased or had lead slung at them for a while are very difficult, if not impossible to catch. I wish I had a nickel for how many times I tried to pass a lure/bait to a fish and have it bolt up/down stream spooked because of it. But, when the moon is right, all the pieces come together, and you hook-up, you will remember it for the rest of your life.

As far as snagging, lining, or lifting fish, it used to be legal years ago. Do people still do it? Yes they do. All shapes and sizes too. Bait, fly, lure, doesn't matter. The temptation is great. Doesn't make it right though...

Spending money on fishing gear, well we all do. It's part of the process. You didn't state what you purchased. Was it for fly or bait fishing? In reality $200 is not a lot to get set up for Salmon fishing in the river. Rod, reel, line, waders, cleats, lead, hooks, glasses, bait/flies, X 2 people, it adds up real quick.

As Tuna said, I would recommend a competent guide for first timers. You will learn quite a bit. It will save you time, frustration, and money in the long run. Don't be afraid to ask for references. If you get a guide that promises you the moon and the stars, ask him for the powerball numbers too while your at it. You'll probrably have a better time playing the lottery...

You'll get a load of info. on these boards also. When you get time, read some of the previous posts.

Best of luck in the future. OTH

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RE: Quit Stealing Our Money! - 10/23/2008 4:50:31 PM

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Salmon are not Trout to be sure. It takes time to learn what makes them tick. I'm still learning. That's what brought me here & why I've stayed on.
I went up this fall- had a few strikes in 4 days & caught one small Steel. That's the game though. If I had gotten into a nice pod that hadn't been bothered I surely would have done better, but it didn't happen.
Could I have digressed & ripped a few just for kicks & to build my ego in front of others? Sure, but it isn't legal & I'd rather go a week without a bump than dishonor myself & those great fish by such distaste.

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RE: Quit Stealing Our Money! - 10/24/2008 8:38:44 AM

Uncle Kevin

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Let's not forget that Salmon are not the only fish in the Salmon river that are running at this time of year.

The Steelhead and Browns are in the river and they certainly are feeding.

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RE: Quit Stealing Our Money! - 10/24/2008 9:03:27 AM

tommybanzai

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I have had no problem catching salmon this year so far.... however I didn't catch any at the Salmon
River, and you won't see me there again during the salmon runs. Too much chuck and duck for me...

Follow OverTheHills's suggestions...took the words out of my mouth

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