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Pymatuning near Jamestown. - 8/11/2008 1:22:16 PM

KEVINM

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I am going to be camping at the Jamestown campground this weekend. Planning on doing some fishing has anyone been doing any good for crappie or walleye? Last year when we were up around 10 PM there were a lot of big fish which were surfacing right at the end of the docks. Threw just about everything in my box at them with no luck. Would these have been stripers and what would you suggest to catch them.

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RE: Pymatuning near Jamestown. - 8/11/2008 2:34:27 PM

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Probably carp.....

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RE: Pymatuning near Jamestown. - 8/11/2008 3:16:10 PM

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They were carp. they're there every day all summer long. float some bread on the surface to catch them.

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RE: Pymatuning near Jamestown. - 8/12/2008 10:53:48 AM

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They weren't carp. I can tell you that for definite. I've seen this too, and have wondered if they're hybrids or just schools of bass. I've made a few casts to these blow-ups but think that my musky baits were too big. I've seen them mostly on the south end too, some lasting a few seconds, sometimes long enough to draw birds. HHMMMMM.

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RE: Pymatuning near Jamestown. - 8/12/2008 2:09:20 PM

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Could easily be white bass and/or hybrids. Late summer is the usual time to start "jump" fishing. Both species will ball up bait and drive it to the surface to randomly attack from below. Can be hot fishing with a small casting spoon or white bucktail or twister.

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RE: Pymatuning near Jamestown. - 8/12/2008 3:57:49 PM

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I get them with a spinnerbait at shenango. Man do they pull.

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RE: Pymatuning near Jamestown. - 8/13/2008 12:34:48 AM

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How can you tell when it's 10PM and dark?

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RE: Pymatuning near Jamestown. - 8/13/2008 8:10:13 AM

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have you ever heard carp breaking the surface besides when they spawn in the spring? It sounds nothing like bass/stripers blitzin a school of bait.

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RE: Pymatuning near Jamestown. - 8/13/2008 3:38:17 PM

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a young kid was fishing there when I was there and said he had caught several hybrids before I hAD gotten there but I did not see them.

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RE: Pymatuning near Jamestown. - 8/16/2008 10:15:08 AM

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had to be white bass to my knowlege there are NO HYBRIDS in pymatuning.i catch a lot of whites there.they feed just like hybrids.fast and furious and fun to catch.wish they would put hybrids in pymy .

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RE: Pymatuning near Jamestown. - 8/16/2008 7:26:25 PM

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KEVIN
WHITE BASS IS THE CORRECT ANSWER.HEY STRIPEGUY THERE IS HYBRIDS BELOW THE DAM.HAVE CAUGHT THEM IN THERE FURTHER DOWN STREAM FROM THE DISCHARGE.

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RE: Pymatuning near Jamestown. - 8/16/2008 8:41:48 PM

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There are hybrids in Pymy. I saw several toads pulled from the Spillway early in the spring. They were washed over from the management area. One toad went almost 14#. Definitely a hybrid. Did a "tonsil" check and there were teeth on the tongue.

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RE: Pymatuning near Jamestown. - 8/17/2008 10:47:48 AM

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Striped Bass Hybrid Morone saxatilis x Morone chrysops

Identification: The hybrid striped bass’s body is stockier than

that of a pure striped bass, and its lateral stripes are discontinuous

and less distinct. Its back is dark, almost black. Its

sides are silvery, with seven or eight faint and broken-looking

lateral stripes, and its belly is white. The anal fin has 11 or 12

rays, and there are two tooth patches on the rear of its tongue.

In size it grows to a length and weight midway between its parents.

A 10- or 12-pounder is considered a big one.

Life history: The striped bass hybrid is fast-growing, which is

typical of hybrids. It is generally sterile, and can be stocked instead

of the purebred striped bass into waters to avoid the purebred’s

potential of reproducing too prolifically and outstripping its

food source. However, occasionally fertile striped bass hybrids

have occurred, and some states have reported the hybrid backcrossing

with the white bass. Striped bass hybrids feast on forage

fish as adults
White Bass Morone chrysops

Identification: The white bass is a medium-sized fish, silvery,

with an arched look to its back. The maximum size is about

illustration-Ted Walke

34 Pennsylvania Angler & Boater www.fish.state.pa.us

18 to 20 inches, with a two- or three-pounder a trophy. The

more usual size is one-half to about two pounds. White bass

have a deep body, compressed laterally. The back is blue-gray

or steel-gray. The base color of the sides is silvery-white to silvery

pale-green, with a yellow tinge on the lower edge. The body is

marked with four to seven gray-brown or black horizontal stripes,

not as distinct as the stripes of the striped bass. The two dorsal

fins are separated by a notch, and the anal fin has three spines

and 12 to 13 soft rays. The eye is yellow and the dorsal and

caudal fins are clear to gray. White bass have teeth in a patch

on the base of the tongue, unlike the white perch, which has

a thin band of teeth around the front edge of its tongue. The

white bass’s mouth is basslike. The lower jaw projects beyond

the upper jaw.

Life history: White bass are school fish, spawning, feeding and

traveling in compact groups. In late April to early June, schools

of white bass migrate to spawn over rocky or gravelly shoals,

either going to that habitat in a lake or traveling upstream in

a river to reach it. Spawning takes place near the surface in

six or seven feet of water, at 58 to 64 degrees. The females release

25,000 to one million minute eggs into the current,

accompanied by several spawning males. The eggs are adhesive,

drifting to the bottom and sticking to the stones. They

hatch in two or three days.

Young white bass quickly show their schooling tendencies,

drifting in large groups and eating zooplankton. As they grow

they switch to larger prey, like aquatic insects, crustaceans and

their primary food, fish, especially consuming schooling forage

fish like gizzard shad. Aggressive feeders, white bass may

make a great commotion on the surface when they attack a school

of forage fish or during spawning activities, a tip-off to anglers

of this fish’s presence

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RE: Pymatuning near Jamestown. - 8/18/2008 9:55:55 AM

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I caught a few nice white bass (seven of them) also missed a few and had some pull off on Saturday morn in the south end that were chasing and busting minnows on the surface. I just followed them around the bay and cast into the commotion when they got the bait on top.

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RE: Pymatuning near Jamestown. - 8/18/2008 11:05:06 AM

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I was also under the impression that there were not hybrids in pyma until we caught one this spring while musky fishing. Not a giant...27", 7 or 8 lbs as I recall. I spend A LOT of time fishing this lake and this is the only one I've ever caught or saw...so I don't think there are a lot of them but a few for sure.

I have a pic of this fish if you'd like to see it. I'd post it here but I'm not computer savvy enough, or that motivated, to know how. If you'd like to see you can e-mail me at bucknk@upmc.edu.

Nate

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