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North park - 9/8/2009 5:56:58 AM   
BIGHEAD


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Status: offline 		Just seen on the news this morning. They are pulling the plug TODAY  to dose out the sediment The finishing date it to be memorial day 0011

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RE: North park - 9/8/2009 7:53:36 AM   
IrishRed

 

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Status: offline 		That's great news, heres the article in the post.
http://www.post-gazette.net/pg/09246/994999-54.stm

Looks like some folks are afraid it's going to be a little stinky, guess you can't make everyone happy!

Hopefully the smell isn't enough to keep Jim Rossmiller away from helping to transfer the fish he is concerned about.

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RE: North park - 9/8/2009 8:43:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Has anyone heard if this will affect Marshall Lake? I wonder what the affect will be downstream on Pine Creek from North Park Lake. North Park lake will be missed during the construction. Completion by middle of 2011 seems like a long time to be out of commission. Hopefully they will take the time to improve the dam and other structures around the lake.

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RE: North park - 9/8/2009 8:59:42 AM   
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Status: online 		any word where they are re-locating the fish?  hopefully to something legitimate like Lake Arthur. 

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RE: North park - 9/8/2009 10:59:10 AM   
IrishRed

 

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Status: offline 		I haven't heard of a "preferred list" but maybe NPL has heard since he has the baitshot there.

I bet the coons will be eating good while the draw down takes place. Either that or a lot of coons stuck in the mud will be found in the mornings!

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RE: North park - 9/8/2009 1:12:43 PM   
freshwaterdrumR


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Status: online 		Its about time they drain that cesspool. Does anyone know how deep they plan on making it?

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RE: North park - 9/8/2009 2:27:33 PM   
IrishRed

 

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Status: offline 		From http://www.yournorthhills.com/northhillsnews/article/major-north-park-lake-dredging-project-could-begin-soon (Aug 13th)

According to a public notice released in July by the Army Corps, the restored lake will have a surface area of approximately 63 acres, with water depths that range from shallow shoreline areas to approximately 26 feet at the most downstream end of the lake.

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RE: North park - 9/8/2009 4:13:57 PM   
*commander*


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Status: offline 		better have a better plan than the last time they did it. while it was done 20+ years ago, they made it way worse than what it was to begin with. IF they do what they plan, it should be a nice lake.

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RE: North park - 9/8/2009 9:53:49 PM   
northparklake

 

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Status: offline 		from what i heard, limits on the lake have been lifted to try and get as many fish out as possible dead or alive. marshall lake is not being dredged. it was going to be originally but they wanted to save money so that was scrapped. im sure some fish will be relocated to there. i cant wait till its done. business will be slow while its drained but will be better after its done

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RE: North park - 9/9/2009 2:01:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		I firmly believe that this iss a grreat idea and that it is long overdue, but just how long are we talking until the lake is back to a fishable state?! Id imagine iff they totally drained the lake that it would take years and years for it to become a fishable lake again. I would really like to see walleye and tiger muskie brought back into this lake and i hope they have plans on bringing them in. I caught my first tiger musky ever at np, ill never forget the day.

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RE: North park - 9/9/2009 6:37:37 AM   
Steelin4Fun

 

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Unlimited fishing allowed until North Park Lake drainsWednesday, September 09, 2009By Len Barcousky, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Bob Donaldson / Post-Gazette
Allegheny County Executive Dan Onorato, left, and U.S. Rep. Jason Altmire open a ceremonial valve yesterday to symbolically begin the draining of North Park Lake, the first step in an 18-month process to dredge years of accumulated silt. The real valve was opened on the lake side of the dam nearby. Allegheny County council member Jan Rea is at center.
Anglers at North Park Lake can bring home as many fish as they can land for the next several weeks.
Allegheny County Executive Dan Onorato said daily creel limits have been suspended by the state Fish and Boat Commission as long-planned efforts to restore the lake began yesterday morning.
"Go fish," Mr. Onorato urged anglers yesterday. "Catch whatever you can catch." Anglers still need to have valid Pennsylvania fishing licenses before they can drop their lines into the county's largest standing body of water.
Draining the lake is the first step in a $13 million project to remove decades worth of silt from its bottom over the next 20 months.
Mr. Onorato made the announcement about relaxation of fishing rules at a ceremonial "valve turning" at North Park. Spectators cheered as water from the bottom of the lake began to flow into Pine Creek yesterday morning.
Emptying the 60-acre lake is expected to take four to six weeks. The "ecosystem restoration project" is a joint federal, state and county effort. It is designed to return the lake to its original depth, restore recreation options, improve fish habitats and reduce danger of downstream flooding.
The major partners in the undertaking are Allegheny County, which owns and maintains North Park, and the Pittsburgh District of the Army Corps of Engineers.
District engineer Col. Michael Crall called North Park Lake one of the crown jewels of the county park system. "We look forward to helping restore the lake to grandeur," he told the 50 people gathered for the launch of the project.
Many smaller fish living in the lake will be able to head downstream into Pine Creek through the water-release pipe being used to drain the lake. Larger fish that remain after anglers have had their chance to catch them will be transported to three lakes in Deer Lakes Park, according to water conservation officers.
Len Barcousky can be reached at lbarcousky@post-gazette.com or 724-772-0184.

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09252/996599-358.stm#ixzz0QbXgOiIH

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RE: North park - 9/9/2009 7:47:40 AM   
razmatazz05


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RE: North park - 9/9/2009 9:13:45 AM   
olgerman

 

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Status: offline 		According to the attached article, the larger remaining fish will be transferred to the Deer Lakes Park lakes.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09252/996599-54.stm

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RE: North park - 9/9/2009 9:31:20 AM   
razmatazz05


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Status: online 		boooooooo.

when they drained Dutch Fork, they sent half to Racoon Lake, half to Cannonsburg.  i cannot speak for Racoon, but i definately dont think it would have been wise to dump them into C'burg lake... 

those fishies would be much better off being put into Lake Arthur, Pine Creek or even the Alleg. River...

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RE: North park - 9/9/2009 10:36:27 AM   
fly chaser

 

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Status: offline 		I agree, DLP is nothing more than a weedy mud hole. What a joke!

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RE: North park - 9/9/2009 2:38:40 PM   
IrishRed

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: razmatazz05

boooooooo.

when they drained Dutch Fork, they sent half to Racoon Lake, half to Cannonsburg.  i cannot speak for Racoon, but i definately dont think it would have been wise to dump them into C'burg lake... 

those fishies would be much better off being put into Lake Arthur, Pine Creek or even the Alleg. River...


Like I said before, can't make everyone happy!

Arthur would be much higher expense, some will end up in pine creek during the drain then some will eventually make it possibly to the river. So, at least you get 2 of 3!

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RE: North park - 9/9/2009 3:05:17 PM   
fly chaser

 

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Status: offline 		When they drained Tamarac, little Sugar creek was loaded with small bass and gills. They only lasted a couple years and were gone for the most part! Pine creek will have alot of fish to catch over the next couple years!

On a side note, imagine what Pine creek will look like this year on the 1st day of trout.........The crowds are horrible with NPL open to fishing! I wait for 2 weeks to fish Pine creek after the opener.

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RE: North park - 9/10/2009 10:56:00 AM   
eyesandgillz


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Status: offline 		Are there panfish of decent, keepable size at North Park Lake?  I take it there aren't any eyes or saugeye in there.  Sounds like a decent place to take the kids in the next couple of weeks.  Mentioned it to the wife and she perked up and said, "Isn't that close to Ross Park mall?" 

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RE: North park - 9/10/2009 1:19:26 PM   
Porktown


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Status: offline 		Most of the pan fish are stunted there.  The gills and small crappie are everywhere.  It's a great place for small kids.  Especially with the near by playgrounds and open fields to run around in.  If your kids are older, they'll probably be bored pretty easily, unless you have a canoe or something to get you away from the shore access areas.  You can rent boats there, but not sure if their season has ended? 

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RE: North park - 9/10/2009 3:43:15 PM   
Mr. Twister

 

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Status: offline 		I think they close the boat house after labor day. I bet the crowds will be insane with this nice weather and no creel limits.

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RE: North park - 9/11/2009 12:03:30 PM   
fisherofmen376

 

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Status: offline 		im interested to see how many musky are really in there....

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RE: North park - 9/11/2009 12:12:53 PM   
Lovgren69

 

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Status: offline 		PA Fish & Boat Commission surveyed this lake back in 2004, here is a link to their findings.

http://www.fish.state.pa.us/images/fisheries/afm/2004/8_06-01northpklk.htm

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RE: North park - 9/11/2009 12:28:53 PM   
razmatazz05


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Status: online 		wouldn't the catfish have been in the deeper parts too? 

seems there's be enough forage for muskie's to survive with the small panfish, shad, trout, and shiners...  its the habitat that likely wouldn't support much.

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RE: North park - 9/11/2009 3:03:06 PM   
Big Fathead

 

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Status: offline 		Pretty interesting, Walleye in north park. I would have lost money on that bet!

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RE: North park - 9/14/2009 9:27:04 AM   
eyesandgillz


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Status: offline 		Took a ride with the wife and kids yesterday up to North Park.  Wasn't as crowded as I would have thought as far as the fishing goes.  If you are a single guy into jogging or biking, there was lots of "fishing" you could have done on the trails! 

Lake is getting lower and it is definitely turbid.  Pitched a line for a little bit but only had some nibbles from the small gills that are in there.  Kids were more interested in the playgrounds and throwing stones in the water.  They fell asleep while we were driving on the West side of the lake and we just rolled on home. 

Should get interesting in another month or so when the lake comes down several more feet. 

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RE: North park - 9/16/2009 10:22:30 AM   
fish5000

 

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Status: offline 		At one time the Fish Commission used to stock walleye in North Park Lake . I caught a small one there [10"] under the bridge by the dam in 1991 , but it was years before when the Commission last stocked , at least that was the info from the bait shop there . Of course , that 'eye could have been released there by someone and no way to tell if it was the result of successful natural breeding . That doesn't seem likely though .

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RE: North park - 9/16/2009 2:15:08 PM   
northparklake

 

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Status: offline 		the fish commission has stocked walleye, saugeye, channel catfish, & tiger muskellunge.

walleye 1991-2004
saugeye 1992
channel cat 1992-2009
tiger musky 1995-2004

im not sure what they ever stocked before 1991. all stocked as fingerlings. they stopped stocking walleye and musky due to the lake getting so shallow. they are in there though. hopefully they resume stocking them once the lake is deep again

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RE: North park - 9/17/2009 10:28:11 AM   
eyesandgillz


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Status: offline 		wow, those 2003 to 2004 eyes should be pretty nice right now, if they survived.  I might have to go back again once the lake drains some more and concentrates the fish even more.  Only bad thing, from my experience, the lower the lake levels, the less the fish bite, it seems.

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RE: North park - 9/17/2009 10:46:20 AM   
Porktown


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Status: offline 		The trick to catching the small gills for the kids, is to make your offering look more like the "natural forage".  i.e. picnic scraps!!!  Those gills will destroy "baits" (pieces of fried chicken, hot dog, bread, ect.) that is 2' or so from shore.  They seem to know that the worms and minnows placed right off of the weed line or sunken tree comes with a sharp surprise!  When the kids are looking the other way, toss that 3" gill on a 2/0 hook and bobber to the good looking spot.  Nothing seems to draw a preditor's strike, like a gill doing cirlcles in the water.  If your lucky enough for him to flop on the surface, you are just about garunteed a strike!

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RE: North park - 9/23/2009 12:36:11 PM   
northparklake

 

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