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Montour Run? - 8/21/2008 10:31:24 PM   
flyfishermanPA


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Status: offline 		Wondering if any of the guys have done good up there? Planning a trip early next week and was thinking about heading that way.
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RE: Montour Run? - 8/21/2008 10:49:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'd wait for the fall stocking before I fished montour for trout.  There's a few small smallmouth and a bunch of suckers hanging around tho.  The mouth of the creek is alright if your throwing clousers or something like that for small mouth this time of year, but nothing great.

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RE: Montour Run? - 8/21/2008 10:56:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		really? From what I heard down here (Butler county, it's in Mars I think?) its pretty well shaded and the trout live through the summer??

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RE: Montour Run? - 8/22/2008 9:07:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		Huh ? are you talking about the same Montour Run that flows through Robinson, along the bike trail ?  I thought it dumped into the Ohio

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RE: Montour Run? - 8/22/2008 9:42:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thats the only Montour Run I know about as well.  I wasn't aware there was a trout stream around Mars other that the little connie but that out between Evans City and Zelienople.

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RE: Montour Run? - 8/22/2008 1:02:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		For the last several years I've been happily surprised to find that yes, there are holdovers even in the hottest summers. You will have to WORK to find them though, then to make them hit.

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RE: Montour Run? - 8/22/2008 1:08:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		I google mapped it and it's somewhere between Mars and Gisbonia. What I did was just put in from Zelienople to Montour Run & it estimated like 17miles? Not sure how farther I'm going to have to go, on the map it's right by 76.

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RE: Montour Run? - 8/22/2008 1:09:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Luvinbluegills, I can relate. It's either you get their super early or you catch them feeding. It's tough in July & August.

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RE: Montour Run? - 8/22/2008 1:14:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: flyfishermanPA

I google mapped it and it's somewhere between Mars and Gisbonia. What I did was just put in from Zelienople to Montour Run & it estimated like 17miles? Not sure how farther I'm going to have to go, on the map it's right by 76.


You're looking at something wrong I'm afraid... Montour Run flows North into the Ohio River- it flows in opposite Neville Island. The only stream between Mars and Gibsonia that I'm aware of is Breakneck Creek- it is small, though it is quite shaded. No trout though, just a bunch of chubes, maybe a few small bass or the occasional carp- it flows into the Connequenessing Creek near Evan City.

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RE: Montour Run? - 8/22/2008 1:31:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		On the map it calls it Montour Run? 2 streams meet up and form it??

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RE: Montour Run? - 8/22/2008 1:43:43 PM   
Puffy

 

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Status: offline 		I'd be curious to see your map.  You're spot on formerguide.

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RE: Montour Run? - 8/22/2008 1:46:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		I used google Maps. Normally I use them, actually find acouple wild streams here and there. I just put in directions from my house to Montour Run. It flows by S. Montour Road?

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RE: Montour Run? - 8/22/2008 1:47:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		If we are talking about the Montour Run in Allegheny county, I have seen 1 trout there this month.  The water temps have been in the 70s so it is pretty much a smallmouth water recently.  If you are hunting trout you are best waiting until October when they do their fall stocking. 

If we are talking about the Montour Run in Butler county, I have driven over it but never fished it.

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RE: Montour Run? - 8/22/2008 1:49:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		fordhamsteve, look any good? Well if this doesn't work out I might as well go fishing for native browns...

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RE: Montour Run? - 8/22/2008 2:07:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		It has been a while since I have been over there.  I have never walked it at all but it is pretty tiny as far as I could see from the road.  For those wondering where it is it flows into Pine Creek around where Wildwood Rd meets S Montour Rd.  This is in Allegheny county and the one I have driven over but never fished.  As far as the Bulter county part of this stream I am now questioning if I have seen it up there.  I don't have any good topo maps on me from the area up there. 

I have no clue how good or bad it would be...there is one way to find out though!  For my trout needs lately I have been heading out to the Laurel Highlands and sticking with smallmouth fishing close to home (Sewickley).

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RE: Montour Run? - 8/22/2008 2:12:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Laurel highlands? Ever fish Laurel Hill Creek? Heard that's really good. One of the most stocked creeks..

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RE: Montour Run? - 8/22/2008 8:56:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		I dropped the girlfriend off at Robert Morris yesterday and headed down to check out montour run. I caught a few bluegill and saw some decent smallmouth. I also had a 10-12 inch rainbow turn on my woolly bugger, but he didnt take it.

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RE: Montour Run? - 8/22/2008 10:25:15 PM   
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RE: Montour Run? - 8/22/2008 10:36:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		the montour run flyfisherman is referring too goes into pine creek near north park. very small creek maybe 3-6 feet across. im sure some trout swim up from pine creek but i dont think it has any reproducing population. you can still get some trout from pine creek if you really work it. not sure if you will get any trout from montour run

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RE: Montour Run? - 8/22/2008 10:53:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		oh I see. Is pine creek any good in the summer?

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RE: Montour Run? - 8/25/2008 1:10:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have fished Laurel Hill Creek in the past.  There are usually fish there but they see a ton of pressure so keep that in mind as you are moving on the creek.  The access is easy with a pretty nice trail running along both banks of the stream, which is a blessing and a curse.  Whenever I hit it in the summer the water levels are usually lower then their spring levels making the fishing a little tougher for me (I am not the best caster).  

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RE: Montour Run? - 8/26/2008 7:07:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		I fished Pine Creek yesterday and to my surprise it looked like a great trout stream, even in the dead of Summer. Water was good, fish were active, and no one was there . Seeing that there wasn't a hatch I tied on a foam beetle, size 16, and had 2 browns. I had to walk downstream quite far though..

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RE: Montour Run? - 8/26/2008 8:07:19 PM   
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< Message edited by KJH807 -- 8/26/2008 8:17:03 PM >

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RE: Montour Run? - 8/26/2008 8:36:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		haha your probably right. I moved to Butler County only 2 or so years ago, and only one year fly fishing.. So I don't know much about the creeks around here.. Why not ask

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RE: Montour Run? - 8/26/2008 10:12:56 PM   
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find any fish yet?
don't limit yourself to just trout... you will miss a lot of good stuff and cool places

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RE: Montour Run? - 8/26/2008 10:42:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, I've found some fish... I mostly fish lakes (not by choice, rather distance..) and I do all right. Unfortunately, it's a pain to fly fish so I bring the spinning rod some time. I've been looking into trout streams around here only because I think it's more fun stream/river fishing. Sometimes I get a chance to fly fish back east (Susquehanna county..) and do really well with natives, actually heading out tomorrow for the week. I'm not much of a hatch matcher, so I carry a box full of hand tied Copper Johns, San Juans worms, foam beatles, and I do pretty well. About only fishing for trout, it's kind of funny you brought that up. I only fish for trout but have branched out with Lake Arthur so close.. I've caught some smallmouth here and there but nothing of size.

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RE: Montour Run? - 8/26/2008 10:44:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've been thinking of hitting up Laurel Hill Creek & Meadow Run soon.. I probably would know both pretty well if the damn gas prices weren't so high.

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RE: Montour Run? - 8/27/2008 1:27:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		KJH that was a hilarious pic! 
Flyfisherman, montour run, deer and pine creek are both small creeks that get stocked and fished out quickly, but there are always a few holdovers once they have been fished out.  If u can go at off peak times and a few days before or after they have been stocked, u can avoid crowds.  They are a couple of poor excuses for trout streams though, here is sw pa. 
Deer creek does have a fly fishing only section, that is north of Pgh, closer to you than montour. 

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