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Moderators???? - 9/21/2008 8:46:04 PM

KJH807

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how does one become a "Moderator"???
what are the expectations/ duties of a Moderator???

the reason I ask, is because it seams they should have;
-some experience on the board
-a working knowledge of angling and the local area

OR is it merely editing out bad words and moving posts to Off Topic?

not trying to make a personal attack

just my $.02

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RE: Moderators???? - 9/21/2008 8:57:31 PM

Cold

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Different boards do things in different ways, but I'm a Mod on a board that gets alot of traffic (probably similar to, or slightly heavier than here), and I got into the role when a previous mod was stepping down and he recommended me for the position.

On those boards, we have an automatic profanity filter, and our duties consist of keeping the peace and ensuring that the forum rules are maintained. It's run alot stricter than here, so it keeps the entire Mod staff busy.

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RE: Moderators???? - 9/21/2008 9:04:00 PM

flyfishermanPA

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KJH807, not sure about how to "become" a moderator, your on your own with that one. I'm not exactly sure.. Any questions you should contact DryFlyTU, Eric Lyle, and he'll inform you.

Duties of a moderator: As you said editing, moving, pinning threads, etc. Your layout is different from non moderators, just on that certain board. While you can delete posts on the board your moderating visiting other boards you can't see any activity that moderator has done.

Your on a short lease also. If you take advantage of it you're done.. While being a moderator you can just quit, and become a non moderator.

Advantages: I'm not going to lie it's pretty nice. You get 15% off all merchantise purchased from FishUsa, by the way you guys should check that store out!

Also you get a free hat, what's not to love?!

To answer your question about general understanding of the surrounding waters, sure that'll help. Though you don't need that to as a qualification I don't think...

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RE: Moderators???? - 9/21/2008 9:26:43 PM

SPIKER

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Sounds like being a Moderator on a forum you have way to much time on your hands,but can I do a trial offer here to be one?

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RE: Moderators???? - 9/21/2008 9:35:41 PM

flyfishermanPA

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Well between school and fishing I get maybe around 30-45 minutes of forums a day. If you've seen I think my status is online for all day mainly because I have my phones safari browser on this incase I get 5 minutes of free time. .

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RE: Moderators???? - 9/21/2008 9:48:17 PM

SPIKER

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quote:

ORIGINAL: flyfishermanPA

Well between school and fishing I get maybe around 30-45 minutes of forums a day. If you've seen I think my status is online for all day mainly because I have my phones safari browser on this incase I get 5 minutes of free time. .

Your disqualified for your trial offer than!

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RE: Moderators???? - 9/22/2008 8:17:52 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: KJH807

how does one become a "Moderator"???

you get picked by the boss, I s'pose.
Could be any number of any reasons why.
Might be knowledge of the topic.
Might be 'puter skills
might be dedication/loyalty
might be just cause you asked

I'm an administrator on a trade related board.
There's seven of us admins affectionately know as the "the seven dwarfs" .
There's also a dozen mods that don't have the same power/authority or the "master key" that unlocks everything as the admins.

i was chosen to by the board owner to be an admin because....
I'm just so darn cool....

..L.T.A.

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RE: Moderators???? - 9/22/2008 9:02:55 AM

KJH807

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thanks for the replies

i was not looking to be a moderator/ fishing for an invite

My concern is a person becoming a moderator who has little or no information about fishing or the region they are moderatoring

but if those aren't needed skill... nvrmnd

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RE: Moderators???? - 9/22/2008 9:10:53 AM

razmatazz05

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i agree with KJH... how can someone with practically no knowledge of an area be the moderator of that area..? do moderators hold any control over non-moderators? (other than clearing up dirty words, and moving threads to their proper location) i sure hope not.

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RE: Moderators???? - 9/23/2008 3:02:19 PM

KJH807

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i guess there are no answers to these questions....

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RE: Moderators???? - 9/23/2008 3:05:27 PM

razmatazz05

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perhaps some stones are better left unturned... esp. if big brother is watching.

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RE: Moderators???? - 9/23/2008 3:19:00 PM

pxatim

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Why are we worried about this?

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RE: Moderators???? - 9/23/2008 4:01:21 PM

Cold

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Yeah, alot of times it isnt for any reason other than that the person catches the eye of the person who picks Mods. I got my Mod job on another site by being generally helpful to other users, and helping defuse a few tense situations. Others get a Mod job because of who, not what, they know. Doesn't make them a bad mod, just that they have more they need to learn.

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RE: Moderators???? - 9/23/2008 4:51:57 PM

seejib

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Boy it sounds like being a home inspector, all they need is a few hours in class, pass the exam and there you go once a car salesman now home inspector who has never had a hammer in his/he hand. lol

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RE: Moderators???? - 9/23/2008 5:27:33 PM

KJH807

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it seams like this is NOT an "off topic" subject, as people are asking questions in the forums???

I wish the mod who moved this would've PMed me....

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RE: Moderators???? - 9/23/2008 5:29:08 PM

KJH807

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quote:

ORIGINAL: seejib

Boy it sounds like being a home inspector, all they need is a few hours in class, pass the exam and there you go once a car salesman now home inspector who has never had a hammer in his/he hand. lol

sounds like you are right!!!

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RE: Moderators???? - 9/23/2008 10:12:48 PM

Deadbolt401

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If ya want to be a mod so bad, just ask the guys Fly said to. Don't call them out on the forum.

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RE: Moderators???? - 9/23/2008 11:04:40 PM

KJH807

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Deadbolt401

If ya want to be a mod so bad, just ask the guys Fly said to. Don't call them out on the forum.

why not call them out???
*another note*- i never called anyone out

but shouldn't people be held accountable for their stupid posts? or when they make posts about things they know nothing about? or if they are constantly looking to be spoonfed information?

especially if they are a moderator....

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RE: Moderators???? - 9/23/2008 11:19:51 PM

gobyking

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I will answer this question. KJH is beating around the bush. FlyfishermanPA made a not so smart post about fishing in Ohiopyle, perhaps the fun of the new unpaid job getting the best of him. He had very little experience on that water and will for sure in the future not speculate on such questions he has no direct information on and just because he is a moderator, doesn't mean he knows all the fishing waters that fall within his forum. Blown out of proportion and he won't do it again. If he does, I will call him out personally. Good enough?

PS half of my posts are stupid and I take offense to that

PSS sOMe Of tHem r on thU OxybOOb ThrED

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RE: Moderators???? - 9/23/2008 11:48:09 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: KJH807

quote:

ORIGINAL: Deadbolt401

If ya want to be a mod so bad, just ask the guys Fly said to. Don't call them out on the forum.

why not call them out??? ----Calling them out.
*another note*- i never called anyone out- Contradicting yourself.

but shouldn't people be held accountable for their stupid posts? or when they make posts about things they know nothing about? or if they are constantly looking to be spoonfed information?

especially if they are a moderator....

Lighten up K, it's only a forum.

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RE: Moderators???? - 9/24/2008 9:05:33 AM

hooked1

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Great point Deadbolt!!

We're sitting here, and I'm supposed to be a fsiherman, and we're talking about fishing. I mean listen, we're sitting here talking about fishing, not life or death, not a game, not life or death, but we're talking about fishing. Not the fishing that I go out there and die for and play every fishlike it's my last but we're talking about fishing man. How silly is that?
Now I know that I'm supposed to lead by example and all that but I'm not shoving that aside like it don't mean anything. I know it's important, I honestly do but we're talking about fishing. We're talking about fishing man. We're talking about fishing. We're talking about fishing. We're not talking about the game. We're talking about fishing. When you come to the lake, and you see me fish, you've seen me fish right, you've seen me give everything I've got, but we're talking about fishing right now.

Let's lighten up!

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RE: Moderators???? - 9/24/2008 9:50:51 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: hooked1

Great point Deadbolt!!

We're sitting here, and I'm supposed to be a fsiherman, and we're talking about fishing. I mean listen, we're sitting here talking about fishing, not life or death, not a game, not life or death, but we're talking about fishing. Not the fishing that I go out there and die for and play every fishlike it's my last but we're talking about fishing man. How silly is that?
Now I know that I'm supposed to lead by example and all that but I'm not shoving that aside like it don't mean anything. I know it's important, I honestly do but we're talking about fishing. We're talking about fishing man. We're talking about fishing. We're talking about fishing. We're not talking about the game. We're talking about fishing. When you come to the lake, and you see me fish, you've seen me fish right, you've seen me give everything I've got, but we're talking about fishing right now.

Let's lighten up!

PRACTICE?

Allen Iverson.

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RE: Moderators???? - 9/24/2008 10:23:47 AM

KJH807

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RE: Moderators???? - 9/24/2008 10:37:58 AM

Deadbolt401

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A time out wouldn't cut it for you. You need Cased.

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RE: Moderators???? - 9/24/2008 11:00:04 AM

KJH807

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maybe we should switch out the vaginal pipe for the enema pipe...
get it nice and loose so you can dislodge your head...

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RE: Moderators???? - 9/24/2008 11:06:37 AM

pxatim

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What the hell happened in here haha

I love it

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RE: Moderators???? - 9/24/2008 11:26:44 AM

KJH807

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quote:

ORIGINAL: gobyking

I will answer this question. KJH is beating around the bush. FlyfishermanPA made a not so smart post about fishing in Ohiopyle, perhaps the fun of the new unpaid job getting the best of him. He had very little experience on that water and will for sure in the future not speculate on such questions he has no direct information on and just because he is a moderator, doesn't mean he knows all the fishing waters that fall within his forum. Blown out of proportion and he won't do it again. If he does, I will call him out personally. Good enough?

PS half of my posts are stupid and I take offense to that

PSS sOMe Of tHem r on thU OxybOOb ThrED

i was also frustrated that this person makes a good number of posts looking to be spoon-fed info
then turns around giving advise that is not only "bad" but factually wrong

in other posts this person is all too eager to spew bad advise, he made like 350 posts in his first month on the board and it was mostly chit and just other general BS

i got annoyed and was tired of reading it....

quote:

ORIGINAL: pxatim

What the hell happened in here haha

I love it

I got pissed at a moderator
tried to be nice and ask about the qualifications of said mod
i got no response to PMs or the thread
the thread got bumped down here to "off topic"
i got more pissed because it still wasn't addressed

I was just getting pissed... and deadbolt is catching the tail end of it

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RE: Moderators???? - 9/24/2008 11:35:00 AM

pxatim

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I agree...I haven't seen goby contribute much of anything to the boards that was useful... Not sure what happened with you and the mod issue but if PM's were sent and not responded to I think you got your answer. Might as well let it go unless you don't care if you get deleted....

I have no idea though.... it's how msg boards are run. Nothing you can really do about it...

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RE: Moderators???? - 9/24/2008 1:52:57 PM

Cold

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Yeah, forums are privately owne, which is a point that many users fail to realize (not saying anyone here, but I've run into that ALOT elsewhere). Qualifications for being a Mod are that the powers-that-be see fit to make you one. A message board's quality is directly proportional to that of the Mod staff. If you've got admins playing favorites and dirtying their hands in squabbles between users, those users feel more important and will trigger squabbles just to get attention. By the same token, Mods that tend to stay aloof, and keep discipline private, low-key, warned of, and non-negotiable tend to end up with a group of well-behaved users. Not saying they cant participate in threads, but more like they shouldn't participate in arguments.

Notice I didn't say that Mods have to be consistent. I know that, at least for the boards I Moderate for, we have a subjective response policy, meaning we are instructed to address each situation as we see fit. It might help to refer to the way you handled a past issue, but you're not bound by an earlier decision in terms of how you handle this one.

Almost any time something happens, you'll get a complainer waving his free-speech flag. Well the truth is, the internet isn't America, and users dont have any real rights in terms of a site owner's actions on his own site. If an admin wants to ban you because he's grumpy that day, well that's how it goes. The flipside is, of course, that you dont pay him to use his board, and you're free to leave whenever you like.

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RE: Moderators???? - 9/24/2008 1:57:08 PM

KJH807

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i'm kinda cooled down on the whole thing...

i still think the dude is a smart as a bag of hammers

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