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Re: Protestor morons.. 2020/08/31 23:19:20 (permalink)
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Police are given rules of engagement that are such that they can do little but be targets of militant leftists


Yea those poor cops with their body armor and riot gear... with their APCs and rubber bullets, and tear gas, and flashbang grenades... They are just powerless.
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Re: Protestor morons.. 2020/08/31 23:25:05 (permalink)
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Ex- the killer in Portland recently is an ANTIFA who was 'cited' for having a loaded handgun at another recent demonstration.
CITED- neat for ARRESTED.
Do ya think if he had been a 'white supremist'  in one of those Cities he woulda still been  on the street with another gun??


Do we have a right wing conservative complaining about somebody carrying a firearm? Is that what we have here?

Who wants to tell this guy about the 2nd amendment?
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Re: Protestor morons.. 2020/09/01 06:36:23 (permalink)
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Yea those poor cops with their body armor and riot gear... with their APCs and rubber bullets, and tear gas, and flashbang grenades... They are just powerless.



 
Just like the "rules of engagement" orders that the Obama Administration issued to our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, the 'Crat leadership in the cities in turmoil have given the police some of the tools, but they're not allowed to use them. And we've already seen that a helmet don't do much for a brick in the head. Police should be out there and deployed to prevent the turmoil, not to react to it after it happens, but that's the way it is. Personally, I think they should be using real bullets. I can deal with the next rock group singin' "4 dead in Portland or 4 dead in Seattle", rather than see the majority of citizens in those cities (who don't have any dog in the fight and just want to live free) suffer. You start killin' 'em, and the riots will stop.

It is better to have loved and lost than to live with a psycho for the rest of your life.
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Re: Protestor morons.. 2020/09/01 08:16:55 (permalink)
If you can shoot them for looting during a disaster why not for stealing and destroying private property during these PEACEFUL PROTEST. 
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Re: Protestor morons.. 2020/09/01 08:30:03 (permalink)
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Police are given rules of engagement that are such that they can do little but be targets of militant leftists


Yea those poor cops with their body armor and riot gear... with their APCs and rubber bullets, and tear gas, and flashbang grenades... They are just powerless.


MyLiar, you sound disgruntled??

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Re: Protestor morons.. 2020/09/01 08:47:05 (permalink)
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r3g3

Ex- the killer in Portland recently is an ANTIFA who was 'cited' for having a loaded handgun at another recent demonstration.
CITED- neat for ARRESTED.
Do ya think if he had been a 'white supremist'  in one of those Cities he woulda still been  on the street with another gun??


Do we have a right wing conservative complaining about somebody carrying a firearm? Is that what we have here?

Who wants to tell this guy about the 2nd amendment?


Do we have a socialist agreeing with the 2nd amendment??

Except MyLiar, the second amendment is not written for the purpose to permit murder, r^pe, & theft of innocent citizens on the streets, and in the neighborhoods, of Chicago, Baltimore, and other U.S. cities where obviously ”no” black lives matter.


The lives lost everyday, in our cities and towns across the U.S MyLiar. ”Say their names”.... or is just the Covid-19 deaths, you use in your agenda to troll that matter?

Who wants to tell this guy ”All lives matter”?
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Re: Protestor morons.. 2020/09/01 09:18:55 (permalink)
 one post and he gets so riled up he does a triple   LOL
TDS big time
Wonder if he gets paid by some lefty 
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Re: Protestor morons.. 2020/09/01 09:43:51 (permalink)
r3 there exist no doubt in my mind he holds hate & discontent toward people of authority, no matter what the title.

MyLiar use's stats like Covid-19 deaths to bolster his agenda, copies and post bogus internet material as his rebuttals and Is first to find fault and down play any all positive information.

For months we have heard from many experts AND scientist the positive affects hydroxychloroquine has had in fighting Covid-19 and for months, MyLiar dwells on the ever increasing deaths attributed to Covid-19.

Now there is substantial proof Dr Falsie has been wrong about the use of hydroxychloroquine. The proof is so strong a leading expert, supported by others, have come out to hold Dr Falsie accountable for the Covid-19 deaths.

Like Dr Falsie, MyLiar refuses to support any positive research or other information that will put a quick end to the existing problems, p be they Covid-19 or ”peaceful protest”.

Strange how, in both cases, a simple readily available pill can cure the problems. Be those pills, made from drugs or lead.

Just my opinion.
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Re: Protestor morons.. 2020/09/01 11:05:28 (permalink)
If hydroxychloroquine was so effective wouldn't it be in wide use in other countries and being praised for how great it is by their media?
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Re: Protestor morons.. 2020/09/01 11:38:57 (permalink)
Dave, I don't know about other countries. I just see reports and data provided by experts/scientist in our country.

I also see total negativity coming from Falsie and his cohorts that even me can see doesn't make sense nor do I see, any attempt by Falsie to promote and expedite the results of hydroxychloroquine.

The same results are published by the anti-America news media. Only negative comments and brow beating and shaming anyone calling for continued studies of the drug.

I shudder to think, the lives that could/will have been saved had the drug been made available much earlier then the negative reports were based on.

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure and hydroxychloroquine has proven to be a prevention.

Granted, zink & antibiotics need be administered too but the fact remains, the treatment is proving itself and yet Falsie and the anti-Americs press continue to bury the results..... along with those killed by covid-19.
post edited by BeenThereDoneThat. - 2020/09/01 11:40:28

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Re: Protestor morons.. 2020/09/01 12:21:49 (permalink)
This is truly a sad day - might change a lot of things.
 
Approx 36 street gangs in Chicago have formed a pact to shoot any cop who displays his gun.
 
Cops will be on high alert with this revelation and without lots of backing by local Govt ( which is real doubtful) Officers may well be in a real lousy situation while trying to protect themselves and each other.
 
The honest people of Chicago are also gonna be in a bind as cops use extra precautions when responding to calls- likely taking it longer to respond as calls build up.
 
Tension will be in the air at all times.
 
Could be a real game changer if this spreads.
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Re: Protestor morons.. 2020/09/01 12:56:50 (permalink)
r3 it is a shame but having heard [most recently] Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters and other Pelosi Swampcrats is it no wonder our first line of defense is being attacked?

As for the swampcrat controlled cities under fire [or on fire] the people who voted these anti-america politicians into office are getting what they paid for.

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Re: Protestor morons.. 2020/09/01 13:19:46 (permalink)
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If hydroxychloroquine was so effective wouldn't it be in wide use in other countries and being praised for how great it is by their media?

Logic!  
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Re: Protestor morons.. 2020/09/01 13:38:14 (permalink)
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If hydroxychloroquine was so effective wouldn't it be in wide use in other countries and being praised for how great it is by their media?



https://c19study.com
 
 
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Re: Protestor morons.. 2020/09/01 13:38:54 (permalink)
Its actually worse than I initially thought- the gangs are videoing Police activity and putting the hits on cops seen in those videos having drawn a weapon in the past.
Sooo if any have been in a dangerous situation in the pat they may well be on the hit list NOW.
 
Time to take real hard prosecutorial actions on these scum- not the catch and release without charges BS going on now,
 
To the Police out there- please take care.
 
Even as a long time retiree who led an active mostly Narc career and having dealt with a number of national street gangs am starting to watch my back a bit.
 
Recall visiting another Country years back and seeing a Police Station with concrete and wire all around it with an Officer stationed on the roof with an m16--how third world says I--now some of our Dem socialist loving  cities have to do that,
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Re: Protestor morons.. 2020/09/01 17:04:20 (permalink)
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If hydroxychloroquine was so effective wouldn't it be in wide use in other countries and being praised for how great it is by their media?

Logic!  




the american journal of medicine just accepted this study for publication today, based on 50 world wide studies
 
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7410805/
 
 
Clinical Significance
 • COVID-19 hospitalizations and death can be reduced with outpatient treatment.
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Re: Protestor morons.. 2020/09/01 17:28:05 (permalink)
There is a solution to these gangs and thugs running rampart in the cities.Quit -ussy footing around with them take them out with brute force it has to be done. These are domestic terrorists and need to be dealt with accordingly,ENOUGH is ENOUGH
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Re: Protestor morons.. 2020/09/01 20:11:59 (permalink)
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outasync
If hydroxychloroquine was so effective wouldn't it be in wide use in other countries and being praised for how great it is by their media?

Logic!  




the american journal of medicine just accepted this study for publication today, based on 50 world wide studies
 
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7410805/
 
 
Clinical Significance
 • COVID-19 hospitalizations and death can be reduced with outpatient treatment.

This proves what I have said countless times, it does some good for some people. FAR FROM A CURE ALL, that our resident conspiracy theorists want to believe. There is a known side effect for those with heart issues. As we discussed with the 94% thing, many elderly would have this concern. This might be a good treatment for those 6%? But so are many other treatments they have been using. Again, far from a cure, or like Outasync noted, if the “boogeyman deep state” is holding back the cure in the USA, we would hear about other countries not only using it, but having numbers less than countries that attacked this right from the start, that didn’t try to play it off as nothing and still do.
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Re: Protestor morons.. 2020/09/02 07:25:28 (permalink)
Pork, nobody that I know of is saying hydroxy is a ”cure all” for everybody.

Flu Vaccines do not work for ”everybody”.

Penicillin does not work for everybody.

Chemotherapy does not work for everybody.

Aspirin does not work for everybody.

All the above have side effects that make them dangerous in one way or another yet are approved for treatment so that others may benefit.

We're told we should listen to the doctors and scientist yet when we voice our opinion based on expert data, we are the resident conspiracy theorists. Why is that Pork?

We're not blind, we see what happens when a doctor or scientist provides data, proving the great Doctor Falsie wrong.

Of late, we're seeing doctors and scientist coming forth and challenging Falsie and his minions in such a strong fashion as to hold Dr. Falsie accountable for Covid-19 deaths.

That is a very strong accusation so why would that not have the ear of we, the resident conspiracy theorists.

If, not one but, many doctors and scientist are seeing the benefit of hydroxychloriquine; why does Dr Falsie and his minions continue to oppose and not support, expedited studies of side effects from use of a readily and well stocked drug, which is being used daily by millions around the world?

I don't know what's happening with the use of hydroxychloroquine in other parts of the world but I do know in many other countries, unlike good ole USA, hydroxy can be purchased over the counter. I also understand people on these boards wanting to know why ”other” countries have less infections of Covid-19.

No, hydroxy is not a cure all but for many it is proving to be a fix as well as a preventative butt still, Dr Falsie disputes access to and immediate use to treat Covid.

Lastly, We know Trump is not responsible for the pandemic.... as the resident conspiracy theorists would have us believe.


In other news......

I need some beach time chucking 2-4 oz pyramid weights into the surf. 🎐 In the meantime our new home has arrived and I must prep for the move this coming Sat. but til then.... 😴😴😴

PS. If that sounds like I'm bragging, dam straight I am.

I'm so happy I gotta sit on my hands to keep from clapping.
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Re: Protestor morons.. 2020/09/02 09:05:54 (permalink)
You mean this for doctors and scientists coming forth and challenging?
 
https://medicine.yale.edu...0disagree%20with%20Dr.
 
Or this from his other faculty members.
 
https://medium.com/@gregg...-covid-19-47d0dee7b2b0
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Re: Protestor morons.. 2020/09/02 11:35:41 (permalink)
There is a clear lack of agreement in the medical community regarding the safety and efficacy of Hydroxychloroquine. It’s not some liberal fantasy; the fact that doctors can’t seem to agree on whether this stuff works or not is very real.

I’m not a doctor or a scientist (and I’m pretty sure none of you are either) so I’m not qualified to interpret the data on my own, I rely on doctors and scientists to interpret the data for me. And the fact that even the doctors that advocate it’s use are carefully qualifying their endorsements speaks volumes.

Hydroxychloroquine advocates are also clearly in the minority, not just in the US, but all over the world. And if it worked, there wouldn’t be 1,000+ Americans dying ever day.

I don’t even understand why this is even debated at this point. Of all the aspects of this pandemic worth talking about, this just seems utterly pointless to me.
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Re: Protestor morons.. 2020/09/02 11:36:17 (permalink)
WELLL NOW THEY HAVE GONE AND DONE IT
CROSSED THE INVISIBLE LINE
THEY HAVE ATTACKED GRACELAND- THE HOME OF ELVIS- WITH GRAFITTI
MAY THEY ALL BE DARNED TO THE UNDERWORLD FOR ETERNITY
 
HOW THE HECK DO THEY INTEND TO JUSTIFY DOING THIS TO ELVIS HOME- ORRRR PERHAPS THEY THINK IT TYPIFIES ALL OF OUR HOMES AS SOME KIND OF BIGGER MESSAGE ???
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Re: Protestor morons.. 2020/09/02 11:41:58 (permalink)
Actually no, I do understand why we are talking about it. It’s because the only way that Calamari Lips can solve problems is with shortcuts and get rich quick schemes. Because that’s just what snake oil salesmen do: they lie to you and sell you miracle cures.
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Re: Protestor morons.. 2020/09/02 13:23:44 (permalink)
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You mean this for doctors and scientists coming forth and challenging?
 
https://medicine.yale.edu...0disagree%20with%20Dr.
 
Or this from his other faculty members.
 
https://medium.com/@gregg...-covid-19-47d0dee7b2b0


Exactly my point Pork. Falsie and company demand long term intensified studies to approve a treatment yet immediately disqualify, any and all data/studies involving any treatment they disagree with orrr not their finding.

Again, we're to accept the word of scientist and doctors so why is Falsie and company not accepting, annnnd supporting the word of their associates? It's a known fact, Falsie and his minions based their findings, regarding hydroxy, using hurried half asz research.

I picture Falsie standing with his fingers in his ears, eyes closed and crying nah nah nah nah... because he refuses to see or listen, to an idea that's not his.

Falsie had his 15 minutes of fame during the AIDs outbreak and I think he is being selfish, wanting another 15 minutes, while people continue to die.

There's absolutely no rhyme or reason for Falsie to act the way he is and I think the ole boy needs investigated.

So again, how is it, every medical product on the US market comes with disclaimers of potential risk and still remain approved for use by millions? Yet a drug that's in use by millions world wide (for decades) will not be approved for Covid-19?
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Re: Protestor morons.. 2020/09/02 13:33:25 (permalink)
MyLiar

I’m not a doctor or a scientist (and I’m pretty sure none of you are either) so I’m not qualified to interpret the data on my own, I rely on doctors and scientists to interpret the data for me. And the fact that even the doctors that advocate it’s use are carefully qualifying their endorsements speaks volumes.



Calling for Dr Fauci to be held accountable is ”carefully” qualifying their endorsements?

Go back to sucking your thumb but first, follow the advice of your reliable doctors/scientist and wash your hands for 20 seconds. The gooder part, you'll be alone in your basement so no need for poking a hole in your mask.
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Re: Protestor morons.. 2020/09/02 13:47:57 (permalink)
There have been long term studies that have shown it to not have much if any effect.  This one was linked in the article of every other Yale professor of public health rebuking the claim of ONE professor, with expertise in cancer research, not infectious diseases.
 
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2019014
 
These sort of studies are what Falcie and most physicians put their faith in.  
 
If 3-4 doctors/scientists have faith in a treatment, but thousands of them don't, Falcie should put his faith in it?  That is EXACTLY what you and others are saying.  And make no mistake, you can go through these threads and see claims of this being a CURE, not just a partial treatment that might work for some.  It is not hard to find articles from "conservative" sites noting it as a cure as well.
 
Sure, Falcie in January/February put faith in models created at that time, with very little known about this virus.  Since those models weren't 100% correct and he put faith in them (although constantly disclaiming that they are data driven and will change), we should dismiss his expertise on infectious diseases.  Make up some excuses that he works for the vaccine industry or he is trying to save his legacy.  Falcie has noted many times that he was incorrect on things, unlike someone that has "served" for 3.5 years that takes credit for successful items and shifts blame on failure.  What a quality for a leader...  One of these days, even the sheep will see through the wool.
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Re: Protestor morons.. 2020/09/02 15:22:22 (permalink)
Pork I beg the differ, hydroxychloroquine has not been tested long term regarding it's use for Covid-19. Almost immediately, Fauci and his cohorts bad mouthed the use of the drug.

Hell, there was barely any side affects found before the FDA pulled the plug.

An immediate red flag, is the studies by which Fauci and his minions based their opinion, regarding the approval of hydroxy. There was no, we have a problem Huston, but let's continue with caution. Only 😳MG there's a problem ixnay the drug for use.

So, why does aspirin, remain on the market when it's a known fact ”not” everybody can use it?

Here's an interesting tid bit regarding egg based vaccines.

The CDC recommends persons allergic to eggs still be vaccinated with egg based vaccines and no longer be observed for a period of time. It is the opinion of the CDC that not all persons allergic to eggs will experience the same reactions.

Hydroxy was pulled from authorised use based on short duration of testing under specific guidelines. Most patients in the study were already deathly ill with severe underlying health conditions.

Other studies required a patient be severely I'll from Covid, requiring hospitalization before the patient be accepted in the study.

It appears to me, the studies lasted long enough for Fauci to harvest any negative results he could find.

I'm not trying to convince you or anybody else about Fauci or hydroxychloroquine. You have your opinion and I have mine.

Dr Fauci and his cohorts need be investigated and held fully responsible for his actions.


As for why associates and scientist speaking out about the new studies and successful results published.

My guess for the same reason when an accredited scientist speaks out against global warmi..... err, climate change or what ever it's called by Al Gore.


It's my idea and shame shame on you for questioning it.
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Re: Protestor morons.. 2020/09/03 07:06:38 (permalink)
Isnt there another thread for this stuff--
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Re: Protestor morons.. 2020/09/03 08:11:05 (permalink)
I couldn't agree more this is a protest thread
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Re: Protestor morons.. 2020/09/03 08:55:23 (permalink)
This thread hasn't talked protests since the first page...
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