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2020/06/04 15:39:11 (permalink)

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Interested to hear on a separate thread opinions on the various protest that have engulfed our country in regard to the tragic death of George Floyd. In reality does the violence and all that goes along with it overshadow the fact that in my opinion the original intent was to honor the memory of Mr. Floyd  and to highlight and put an end to police brutality.

"The cause of freedom is not the cause of race or a sect, a party or a class-it is the cause of human kind, the very birthright of humanity."Quote by Anna Julia Cooper.
 
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/04 15:44:24 (permalink)
Same as a lot of things...the 99% are peaceful and law abiding and the 1% ruin it for everyone. The one percent here is a criminal element made up of gang members, radicals on the left and right, opportunistic anarchists, with a sprinkling of your common vandal. With officers in major cities spread out there is a lot of bad stuff that can happen quickly when response times are impacted.
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/04 18:18:23 (permalink)
I wouldn't say its 99% peaceful and its way more than 1% criminal.The looters are a good percentage. IMHO 99% of our police officers are good men trying to do a difficult job.There is bad in all professions. Protest all you want but when people are killed and injured,business loted and burned,poeple attacked in streets its time to put and end to it.This isn't Somalia,or some 3rd world country 
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/05 12:11:14 (permalink)
Since this hasn't become a complete political chest pounding match, I will respond.  Likely my only response on this thread as I know it will eventually turn into what I noted.
 
Until people can understand that the following are all COMPLETELY different topics, then logical debate cannot happen.  
 
Peaceful Protest
Rioting (violent protest)
Looting
Police brutality
Systematic racism
Kneeling as a form of peaceful protest
Disrespecting the flag/troops
 
Too often, some mix a few to push their agenda.  This is the case with many topics and why I have refused to be part of what is no longer debate in most political discussions, rather than repeating party line rhetoric.
 
Have a great weekend! 
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/05 12:42:37 (permalink)
Get mad whenever I see the police 'take a Kapernack knee' in front of the protestors.
As past LE believe ya have to be impartial dealing with ANY situation to be professional.
 
It seems to be getting past the demos and looting- not over but progressing-
NOW they want to abolish the Police altogether in some places and send out teams of social workers instead.
They want to completely change how things are done- and America IMHO.
 
Sounding to me like a lot of socialists starting to get their way and I don't like it.
This is a pivotal time for us and has little to do with the poor guy who was killed and everything to do with people pursuing their anti American political agendas.
 
Think ya might see lotsa Cops simply turn in their badge and move on unless a lot of folks step up to the plate and end the craziness.
 
Left leaning leaders in Dem cities are starting to flex- IN DC  the Mayor declared the street in front of the White House as Black Lives matter Street and its painted in huge yellow letters on the pavement.
She is also trying to have Nat guard folks evicted from local Hotels..
 
LA is removing 150 Million from the Police Budget among cries from the left to defund Police.
 
Kinda think this is the beginning of the 'crazy' phase---
 
 
 
post edited by r3g3 - 2020/06/05 13:30:17
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/05 14:34:43 (permalink)
I am all for "Peaceful Protests," not matter what they are protesting, as long as they remain PEACEFUL and not very disruptive.  That is what this country was built on. 
 
Definition of disruptive to me; I mean shutting down major highways, etc. and putting motorists and marchers in danger.  Side streets, etc., can be dealt with but stay off interstates and major thoroughfares. 
 
Once the looting, violence, and other stuff starts, time to dispurse:  the "line" should move in, make arrests and break it up.  All necessary force should be used until the violence is quelled.  
 
For looters or arsonists, lead is the best medicine, and hopefully by the owners defending their shops. 
 
That is my opinion on the specific topic of this thread.
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/05 15:04:16 (permalink)
eyesandgillz  All necessary force should be used until the violence is quelled.  
 
For looters or arsonists, lead is the best medicine,


Looks like I have to remind the “pro life” conservatives that property damage can be repaired, but dead human beings can not be brought back to life.

Also, you do not get to dictate the terms of “protest” as only things which do not inconvenience you. That isn’t how protests work. Asking nicely does not bring about the fundamental and systemic change that the protesters seek.
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/05 15:16:15 (permalink)
Gee now mywar your worried about dead human beings really how about your murdering party killing all those babies in name of choice!!!!Can you only imagine what society would be like without the police!! That's exactly what some cities need to reestablish just what good the police do for their community.Imagine the gangs the thugs looting raping,killing,stealing at will. Yea im sur eliminating thr police would be a good thing.
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/05 15:30:50 (permalink)
I didn’t say anything about getting rid of police. Nice straw man tho.

What I said is that you “pro life” conservatives don’t seem to have much regard for human life after all. Not if you think it’s ok to shoot somebody to death because they broke a window. That doesn’t make you (or the cops, or anybody else) the judge, jury & executioner. Even a person that has committed a crime still has constitutional rights; they are still entitled to due process.
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/05 15:40:22 (permalink)
No not broke a window how about fire bombing buildings,beating people in streets,I guess the police can use sleepy joe's method just shoot them in the leg huh.
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/05 15:40:40 (permalink)
HAVE YOU SEEN THE REPORTS THAT Antifa AND OTHERS LIKE THEM ARE USING SOCIAL MEDIA TO PUSH THEIR AGENDA 
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/05 15:42:43 (permalink)
Kill babies not A**holes. Nip it in the bud.
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/05 16:31:01 (permalink)
Well, that took a few hours to turn completely political.  Great job guys!
 
My last thought on this.  Lock people up for 3 months, it gets nice out, reason for a protest with the action itself and cap it off that protesters are required (at least in some areas) to wear disguises, it is not hard to see how it got out of hand quick in so many places.
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/05 18:01:02 (permalink)
My ancestors protested the union 😂

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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/05 18:46:10 (permalink)
Say his name!! George Floyd
Say his name!! Michael Brown
Say her name!! Tamera Rice
Say her name!! Breonna Taylor
Say his name!! Eric Garner
Say his name!! Philando Castile
Say his name!! Antwon Rose
#Icantbreathe #enough
And the list goes on and on and on. But why should we be surprised? If its all white its alright, no???
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/05 18:50:14 (permalink)
r3g3
HAVE YOU SEEN THE REPORTS THAT Antifa AND OTHERS LIKE THEM ARE USING SOCIAL MEDIA TO PUSH THEIR AGENDA 




You mean the "Antifa" Twitter account that was run by white supremacists? 
 
As reported by dozens of media outlets, including this cbs news quoted as follows:
 
"Twitter has shut down multiple accounts that it says were operated by a white supremacist group posing as liberal groups encouraging violence.
 


Twitter said the white supremacist group Identity Evropa used one fake account, @Antifa_US, to call for violence in majority white suburbs, in the name of the Black Lives Matter movement. The account's removal was first reported by NBC News.
"This account violated our platform manipulation and spam policy, specifically the creation of fake accounts. We took action after the account sent a Tweet inciting violence and broke the Twitter Rules" the company said.
 
Twitter said it has also targeted other fake accounts run by Identity Evropa, but did not provide examples. The company said the accounts posted hateful tweets targeting race, religion and sexual orientation."
 
AGAIN... "antifa" is not a real thing. Its a conservative media boogeyman, just like roving immigrant hordes at the border. 
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/05 18:55:32 (permalink)
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No not broke a window how about fire bombing buildings,beating people in streets,I guess the police can use sleepy joe's method just shoot them in the leg huh.




The cops are the ones beating people in the streets, not the protesters. 
 
Here are a couple cops beating an unarmed woman in the street after one of them tries to grope her:
 
post edited by MyWar - 2020/06/05 18:58:47
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/05 18:58:14 (permalink)
And for whoever said this isn't a 3rd world country... where else do you see miltary rolling the streets against its own citizens? Dream on.... Of course there are many leaders that have done that.. Noriega, Xi , Putin, Jung Un... heck Assad cholrine gassed his own people. Don't kid yourselves.
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/05 19:35:03 (permalink)
Here's a photo of a homeless guy the LAPD shot in the face:

 
 
Here's video of a "counter protester" instigating a confrontation with peaceful protesters: "Get away from me you big... GUY"
 
Here's a link to video and a story from Buffalo NY about cops violently shoving a 70 year old man to the ground who gets knocked unconscious and THEN BLEEDS OUT OF HIS EAR WHILE THE COPS PREVENT OTHER PEOPLE FROM HELPING HIM.
 
Here's some nutcase in Texas chasing peaceful protesters WITH A CHAINSAW
 
Here's an account of the June 2nd protests in Dallas where cops forced peaceful protesters onto a bridge and then without warning hit them with tear gas (seriously, watch the video and listen to the people screaming, its revolting).
 
Here's a 20+ minute video of over 40 incidents of cops brutalizing people who are not rioting, throwing firebombs, breaking windows, looting, or breaking any law whatsoever.
 
I can keep going but hopefully you get the point.
 
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/05 19:38:15 (permalink)
Personally I am sick and tired of all the protests going on. Yes a few rogue cops killed that poor man. But what the media doesn't report is the fact that White people also get killed by the cops. The media is the reason for the social unrest!
 
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/05 19:42:18 (permalink)
Oh here's a great one... Lying dirtbag Bill Peduto has to walk back his support of the cops for firing on peaceful protesters in East Liberty because he naively believed the cops when they claimed that protesters instigated confrontation, however dozens of firsthand accounts (including people I know personally) indicate that it was in fact THE COPS who escalated conflict with peaceful protesters. Now he is calling for an independent investigation.
 
Peduto must have forgot that everybody has the ability to record video of EVERYTHING now, so cops and bootlickers like Peduto can't lie about this stuff anymore.
 
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/05 22:19:16 (permalink)
What are you doing to support the cause? Just sitting and posting in solidarity with your comrades? You need to hit the streets with your bothers and sisters. Be careful, those cops can get kind of rowdy you know. Oh I forgot, you may still be in lockdown.
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/06 10:43:14 (permalink)
Well Lib Dem Mayor Bowser in DC seems to be trying to set up a perfect storm for a White House down situation.
Regular troops- intended for last ditch backup- moved away and back to their regular bases due to criticism from too many.
Bowser making the street in front of the White House BLM Boulevard and marking it with huge yellow letters- thus making it a prime destination for protestors.
Bowser evicting Nat Guard troops from local hotels.
Bowser wanting only DC guards people involved.
Bowser  insisting on only 100 unarmed Guards people to guard the White House.
 
That's only 25 unarmed Guardsmen on each side of the huge area-- Yea she is a real riot planner- for WHO?
 
If ya weren't for Trump before - Dems like this showing their real agenda should make ya one now--------
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/06 14:38:46 (permalink)
Protest all you want, don't loot or pillage your village and stay out of the road it's simple

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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/06 14:46:14 (permalink)
3rd Amendment.
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/06 15:02:39 (permalink)
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3rd Amendment.

Had to look it up. It places restrictions on the quartering of solders in PRIVATE homes without the owners consent , forbidding the practice in peacetime. Key word here being "private." Last I heard, motels and hotels ain't private.

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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/06 15:11:41 (permalink)
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/06 19:17:42 (permalink)
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Personally I am sick and tired of all the protests going on. Yes a few rogue cops killed that poor man. But what the media doesn't report is the fact that White people also get killed by the cops. The media is the reason for the social unrest!
 

Where’d you get that idea? The media? Turn off everything and you’ll feel better✌️
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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/06 20:28:33 (permalink)
Not an opinion.... you be the judge. jus'sayin'


www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

Published by Statista Research Department, Jun 5, 2020

Sadly, the trend of fatal police shootings in the United States seems to only be increasing, with a total 429 civilians having been shot, 88 of whom were Black, as of June 4, 2020. In 2018, there were 996 fatal police shootings, and in 2019 this figure increased to 1,004. (BUTT BUTTT BUTT)
Additionally, the rate of fatal police shootings among Black Americans was much higher than that for any other ethnicity, standing at 30 fatal shootings per million of the population as of June 2020.

........... 2017 2018 2019 2020*
White... 457 399 370 172
Black.... 223 209 235 88
Hispanic. 179 148 158 57
Other..... 44 36 39 14
Unknown 84 204 202 98


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Re: protest opinions 2020/06/06 21:34:45 (permalink)
     
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Without Cops...…..
WHO YA GONNA CALL...…….?
 
 
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