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2015/09/24 05:48:39 (permalink)

Pink

Credible observer (Fisheries pHD) who was at Douglaston said there was a pink salmon brought up through the lot yesterday.  I remember hearing about some back a long time ago, but this is the first one I've heard of in years.  Keep your eyes and ears posted, when you are out and about, information on these could help determine if it is a stray from a small residual population in the upper GL, or if maybe there is a small odd year  run(they alternate even on the west coast, some rivers are odd year only , some even year only, and some have both runs) established in one of the off the beaten path LO tribs.  I know this is the kid of mystery that gets Dime going, maybe we'll see him and the boys out on the river more often this fall. 
 
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    twobob
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    Re: Pink 2015/09/24 06:27:51 (permalink)
    Saw one many years ago just after the upper clay changed its flow around the back of the island. 
     
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    Re: Pink 2015/09/24 06:55:12 (permalink)
    L I saw on a few years ago (10+).  Another was caught on a boat in the lake last week.

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    Re: Pink 2015/09/24 07:28:13 (permalink)
    caught a pair on the Catt a few years ago

    wishin i was fishin
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    Re: Pink 2015/09/24 11:22:15 (permalink)
    Anybody else ever caught a golden trout in the SR.
    I caught two one day or the same one twice.
    Gorgeous fish, maybe 12 or 13 inches, more shiny gold that buttery yellow like a brown, with a rich purplish aura, deep purple marks like paar markings and diamond shaped red dots.
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    Re: Pink 2015/09/24 13:29:05 (permalink)
    Welcome back 2 ,
    As for exotic strains , which I shall call , the only ones for me were tiger trout and kokonee . The salmon was up in the adks and the tiger was in the Catskills .
    Now back to the temple of doom 😆

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    Re: Pink 2015/09/24 16:21:21 (permalink)
    Last time I caught a golden it was 2 years ago and it was at 11.000 feet and I had walked in 12 miles to summit the Sierra glacier that fed the stream I caught it in. Those are the true Onynchorus Agauabonita .The  eastern Goldens are actually, and a little more correctly called Palamino Trout that is a strain  developed from a mutant found in a W. Virginia hatchery in 1954.  Still a Onynchorus Mykiss, just like the rustheads.  And no, that's not a Deliverance joke about inbreeding. Really popular on the Rez. waters the Cherokee have in NC.  Tourists love to target them. They are a snaggers wet dream.
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    Re: Pink 2015/09/24 18:32:00 (permalink)
    The ones that are found in LO tribs are said to originate in PA, who stocks them.  I came upon one in Wyallusing Creek in N. Pa back about 30 years ago and spent the rest of the day trying to get a take.  I doubt a 13-14 incher came all the way down a  Pa trib to LE, through the Welland or over the falls and then all the way to the SR, but a DEC Biologist I know told me that pigmentation mutations are not all that uncommon, so that may be what you encountered.  But your description of the pigmentation is right on for a Palamino.
    http://www.fishandboat.com/images/pages/qa/fish/trout_golden.htm
    http://www.bing.com/image...+Trout&FORM=IQFRML
     
     
    post edited by Lucky13 - 2015/09/24 18:33:13
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    Re: Pink 2015/09/24 18:34:11 (permalink)
    Charlie, a number of years Ago I read about lohonton strain of golden trout. They were referred to as "salmon trout" as they reached sizes over 40 pounds in ThE salt lakes but were thought to be decimated due to over harvest of them. but recently a native wild strain was found somewhere in the sierras and they have been revitalized in many of the salt lakes. I was intrigued, but once I researched it further I saw videos and pics of the crowds that target them. Definitely not my cup of tea..

    As for pinks, pretty sure my brother and I saw one back in September of either 91 or 92 in the lfz
    post edited by dimebrite2 - 2015/09/24 19:18:43
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    Re: Pink 2015/09/24 19:14:03 (permalink)
    Yes, that's around the last time I heard anything of them, too.  Sounds like they may have been hiding somewhere.
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    Re: Pink 2015/09/24 19:18:09 (permalink)
    Didn't st. Mary's rapids between erie and Ontario used to host a run of pinks lucky? Although its considered a lost thing... There must be some still lurking around I would assume
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    Re: Pink 2015/09/24 19:18:25 (permalink)
    They have been hiding in the secret of all secret spots. Same place the fish are currently holding in
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    Re: Pink 2015/09/24 19:42:09 (permalink)
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    Charlie, a number of years Ago I read about lohonton strain of golden trout. They were referred to as "salmon trout" as they reached sizes over 40 pounds in ThE salt lakes but were thought to be decimated due to over harvest of them. but recently a native wild strain was found somewhere in the sierras and they have been revitalized in many of the salt lakes. I was intrigued, but once I researched it further I saw videos and pics of the crowds that target them. Definitely not my cup of tea..

    As for pinks, pretty sure my brother and I saw one back in September of either 91 or 92 in the lfz

    Andy, They are Lahontan cutthroats and they are on my species list as I've fished Pyramid Lake, which is on the  Paiute reservation north of Reno, Nev. I went there in April 5 years ago the last time. The water is alkaline, not salt. They also inhabit a few lakes and some river drainages along the northern Sierra.The biggest one I've caught was about 10 lbs, and I have a friend that got one near 20.  Although there is one popular area of flats called "the nets"  that gets crowded with people throwing shooting heads off of step ladders, for the most part it's a large lake  (26 miles long) out in the middle of exactly nowhere with lots, and I mean lots, of space. They aren't a particularly pretty trout and remind me most of dark, winter steel, with less spots. They also don't jump, just bull dog and an occasional wallow. Believe me, although there gets to be crowds, most of the people are very cool and the garbage and crap is nil. It's a very good time camping on the lake .  I fish out of my float tube if the wind isn't bad.  Most of my friends in Ca. go  once in awhile. I thought about going this coming April after a surf fishing/backpacking venture north of San Francisco, but i think we're going to go back into the Grand Canyon for one last time before we won't be able to anymore. Before I know it, I'll be on the wall in the Town Pool  in a wheelchair throwing spinners at dropbacks. Or just dead. Whichever comes first....
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    Re: Pink 2015/09/24 19:58:17 (permalink)
    Way to technical for my simple mind . We are going to the crab shack , then house of blues . Maybe I will catch a golden dorado ✌

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    Re: Pink 2015/09/24 20:07:11 (permalink)
    Charlie thanks for the hands on input. I did hear that the original indigenous species used to reach 40+ pounds though. And that the new ones are on a steady increase of average size. Kudos for you guys making a point to get out there for at least one more time. You only live once and trust me I'm learning that fast. Ya never know, maybe you'll know enough people once your walking days dwindle that can give you enough opportunity to either watch plug rods from the bow of a drift boat or roll cast in the belly of a pool to swing a tailout run... But all in all... Casting spinners off the town wall beats the **** out of working !!! ;)
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    Re: Pink 2015/09/26 10:39:17 (permalink)
    The St Mary's Rapids are between Lake Superior and Lake Huron.  I've heard the pinks may have been established in Lake St Clair, which is between Huron and Erie.   Between Erie and Ontario is the Niagara River, and the Welland Canal.  When I was first fishing the Finger Lakes in my teens, some of the guys from Buffalo that we fished with used to travel to Owen Sound and the St Mary's Rapids to fish for rainbows running up from Huron, way before there were runs into Ontario tribs, or the lake was even clean enough to support these fish.
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    Re: Pink 2015/09/26 10:42:11 (permalink)
    Ahhh, thanks for clarifying. Was there ever a run of pinks in Niagara??? Is that what I'm confusing it with??? Or is it just a distorted childhood memory?? Lol!!!
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    Re: Pink 2015/09/26 10:44:54 (permalink)
    A quick Google search of pinks and st Marys showed many links towards pinks running the st. Marys
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    Re: Pink 2015/09/26 13:04:47 (permalink)
    I don't doubt it, my memory is definitely starting to show signs of CRS disease!
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    Re: Pink 2015/09/26 13:55:48 (permalink)
    ****ety Re**** Syndrome?
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    Re: Pink 2015/09/26 13:57:54 (permalink)
    C r o t c h e t y   R e * * * *   S y n d r o m e ?
     
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    Re: Pink 2015/09/26 21:08:31 (permalink)
    No, Can't Remember S*** disease!
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