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Tamarack dam(s) update

Article in the Tribune yesterday about the Tamarack draw down.
Hopefully they put some pressure in the right place & at least get a plan of attack.
Shame to see it sit there & turn into a cesspool.
 
http://meadvilletribune.com/local/x514651975/Tamarack-Lake-restoration-gains-supervisors-backing
 
 

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    eyesandgillz
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    Re:Tamarack dam(s) update (permalink)
    No offense to Mr. Shartle but come on...
     
    Hopefully money is found somewhere but I doubt they'll be getting any from the Corps of Engineers.  Their budget has been slashed for each of the last several years.
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    "Both Shartle and Supervisor Vice Chairman Michael Jordan expressed frustration with the amount of time it is taking the commission to act and the potential need for expensive engineering studies.

    I think you just need to get a piece of equipment out there and dig it up,” Shartle said."

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    CAP78
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    Re:Tamarack dam(s) update (permalink)
    Sure will make ice fishing interesting...
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    Re:Tamarack dam(s) update (permalink)
    By ice fishing season the BIG fishes will have ate up the LITTLE fishes. Then the BIG fishes will die from lack of O2.
    The deepest part of the lake is only 6ft. deep now.

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    Re:Tamarack dam(s) update (permalink)
    id be suprised if the musky and walleye make it thru this summer...
     
    id hope that it gets fixed sooner or later, whether they have to drain it or not.
     
    just was looking at a guys picture album of walleyes him and friends caught last yr, and was pretty impressed.
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    Re:Tamarack dam(s) update (permalink)
    just an update: No real progress, but contractor bids are due by 7-11...
    http://meadvilletribune.com/local/x546502920/Tamarack-Lake-lovers-seek-solutions-to-draw-down

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    Re:Tamarack dam(s) update (permalink)
    This year I'm doing the Fish-A-Thon at Tamarack. Half of the money I raise goes to repair the dam, so I'm giving it a go. I'd hate to see this lake get worse.
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    Re:Tamarack dam(s) update (permalink)
    Pics. as of 07/17/12





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    Re:Tamarack dam(s) update (permalink)
    The saddest part is, it just keeps looking worse.
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    Re:Tamarack dam(s) update (permalink)
    fish-a-thon...??? 
     
     
    lol
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    Fish-a-thon....Yes...... This year you'll be issued a sling shot or you may bring own sling shot and a box of 10 Silver Salutes or M-80's.
    After each shot you may net the biggest fish floating "belly up."
     
    The following RULES apply:
    1. All entrants must possess a in-valid fishing licence.
    2. Twisting of fuses on S.S. or M-80's limit of 2 fuses.
    3. Entrants may use their own sling shot. (width limited to 4 ft....height limited to 6 ft.)
    4. Other RULES may be added or subtracted before weigh in.
    5. Fish missing 1 fin or 1 eye or part of the dorsal fin or tail may be entered at weigh in. (NO WHOLE)
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    Feel free to add RULES
    Fish-a-Thon will be held at the south end of the lake. ( Pettits end..the one without a Port a Potty)
     
     
     

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    Re:Tamarack dam(s) update (permalink)
    its a shame what happened to that lake.  remember fishing it as a kid in the 70's & my grandson caught his 1st muskie there. hopefully they repair it & would really help to dredge it a little.
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    What happened to all the funds from fishing license sales... lol what a joke. Shame to see the lake in this shape.
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    H3Fisher

    What happened to all the funds from fishing license sales... lol what a joke. Shame to see the lake in this shape.

     
    So many failing dams, only a limited amount of funds.   Many of these dams were built using the same methods many years ago and were turned over to the PFBC around the same time.  Unfortunately, those bldg. methods weren't the best and the dams are failing, just like all infrastructure eventually does.   On top of that, federal and state regulations have changed over time and have redefined the risk factors which put more dams into the high hazard category.  
     
    I'd be willing to pay for a $5 Dam re-building stamp as long as it had a defined length of time for implementation attached to it and had a sunset clause so any inaction would cause automatic removal after a certain timeframe.  I imagine I'd be in the minority though.  These additional funds could be added to the current dam repair funding in the regular yearly budget.  
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    thanks for sharing those pictures....very interesting and sad.
     
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    Re:Tamarack dam(s) update (permalink)
    Was just there this afternoon.  There were lots of dead crappie and gills along the shoreline.  Very sad, but I'm not surprised one bit.  They smelled pretty bad and I didn't make one cast into the lake.  Went down to the outflow and it seemed a lot more "foamy" than usual.  Caught a bunch of small crappie and gills with ease with the fly rod, but then called it quits.  Kinda felt bad about fishing for them. It smelled a little there too, but not the dead fish smell(no dead fish down there).
     
    Here's a pic.  It's kinda hard to see the fish, but if you look closely, especially near the bottom, that white along the shoreline is dead fish.
     

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    Re:Tamarack dam(s) update (permalink)
    I see the water came up a foot or so from the weekend storms. As far as the dead gills and crappies go at least the eagles will have easy pickins.
     
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    Re:Tamarack dam(s) update (permalink)
    Local news on the radio this morning said officials are dropping the lake another 5 feet.
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    Re:Tamarack dam(s) update (permalink)
    Below is a link to an article in the Tribune today.  4-5 years to fix the dams and the fish are being removed...high fish kill numbers are likely.
     
    http://meadvilletribune.c...ore-dam-problems-found
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    Sad,  but hopefully they can get the funding and dredge while they are at it and make the lake even better for the future.
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    Re:Tamarack dam(s) update (permalink)
    Why did they wait this long to remove and transport the fish?
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    probably not in the budget...
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    Re:Tamarack dam(s) update (permalink)
    "Why did they wait this long to remove and transport the fish?"
     
    Because they didn't know until tuesday, that it would be necessary to do so. 
     
    "The additional deficiencies in the northern earthen dam were discovered Tuesday during an engineering inspection, Levis said."


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    The drawdown means a loss of aquatic life in the thousands, too, because of low water levels, low oxygen levels and high temperatures in the remaining water, according to Levis.
    “We expect a large fish kill,” Levis said. “We’ll do what we can to remove fish and we want to make that clear to the public, but a lot of fish could be killed.”

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    I wish Kahle would get fixed soon too...
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    could be? whats the water temps like high eighties at least im guessing
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    Re:Tamarack dam(s) update (permalink)
    What is going on with Tamarack is a travesty. Several years ago when my Bait & Tackle shop was still in operation, we went thru this then as well. While the work was being done on the dams, some of the restrictions were relaxed so that persons were allowed at their own risk, to remove some of the soil near a couple of the launches. While this was allowed for only a short while, a lot of soil was removed(but not nealy enough to even dent it). I had heard from several people who said that they were unaware that this was going on until it was halted because they were starting to refill the lake.
    What I am getting at is why can't our twp. soliciter draw up a contract with PFBC that would allow for the removal of those soils on a larger scale. I had a couple of my customers (that were contracters) tell me that had they known about the soil removal, they would have brought in a lot of their equipment and removed the soil in order to have it for resale to their customers. This soil is very rich in decayed organic matter that is highly prized by gardeners and landscapers. Hey, it's just an idea that I feel should possibly be looked into.
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    "Why did they wait this long to remove and transport the fish?"

    Because they didn't know until tuesday, that it would be necessary to do so. 


    They didn't know they'd have to fix the dam??  Kinda naive if you ask me.  For 8 months it sat there while  "engineers are still monitoring the situation" - taken from the first and second quarter reports, Jan-Mar 2012, April-June 2012, page 19 of 20. 
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    They knew the dam needed repaired. What they didn't know, was how far they would need to lower it in the interim.

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    spoonchucker

    "Why did they wait this long to remove and transport the fish?"

    Because they didn't know until tuesday, that it would be necessary to do so. 


    They didn't know they'd have to fix the dam??  Kinda naive if you ask me.  For 8 months it sat there while  "engineers are still monitoring the situation" - taken from the first and second quarter reports, Jan-Mar 2012, April-June 2012, page 19 of 20. 


    EXACTLY!  That's what I was talking about.  How did anyone not see it getting to this point sooner.  It's total BS if you ask me.  AND this is the second time.  Those fish should have been moved to surrounding lakes much sooner.  I'm sure that there would have been plenty of volunteers to help with any and all efforts.
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