"Do you seriously just type .. to ahh.. type ? LAUGH !"

Its no problem. Im a fast typer. I believe in giving a thourough explanation as opposed to butt covering one liner humor attempts.

ORIGINAL: wayne c

"I got some news for ya wayne. About 10% of PA population are hunters"

More like a little less....

" and 10% are anti-hunters."

More like, alot less.

" That 80% in the middle will be the ones who decide the future of hunting in the long run."

Silverkype verse 3 chapter 9; And the soccer moms shall spew fire and brimstone called down from the heavens. And hunters shall wail for mercy as they gnash their teeth and beg forgivenes... lmao.[8D] C'mon Kype. Lets deal in reality here. The only thing we have to fear is the pgc itself.

"Certainly your progative to be viewed as a blood-thirty, care about more deer & myself only deer hunter, but you're contributing to the demise. YOU are part of the problem."

And you are a part of the problem as i see it. And as i see it, the only one that currently exists. You come off as being of the same mindset ast the environmentalist extremists on a power grab, over-riding hunters as PGC's #1 partnership in conservation & game management issues. That can easily be seen with a quick browsing through the pgc website. Not that anyone should need to given what has transpired over the last decade.

Notice I said "about" 10%. I went back and covered my****because I know your an anal tard. You'll spin and use whatever you can; yet it makes you look like a dumas. But anyway... more typing with no meaning for wayne. LAUGH !

The issue here is that you think anyone that doesn't agree with you is wrong. Anyone that agrees with the pgc even a little bit, is wrong. That's part of the problem. Without hunters compromising, they are part of the problem. I've already told you I think hr has gone too far. But that's always dismissed, to boost your point. And its an inaccurate one btw..

I'm not an environmentist .. I am a hunter that sees beyond my immediate needs and desires. I see the big picture beyond sitting on that same stump and shooting a deer.. and if I don't, I don't blame it on others. There are always mutiple angles to view something and deer management is no different.

"Notice I said "about" 10%. I went back and covered my****because I know your an anal tard. You'll spin and use whatever you can; yet it makes you look like a dumas. But anyway... more typing with no meaning for wayne. LAUGH ! "

Nice laugh. But it didnt cover up your emotional melt-down.

"The issue here is that you think anyone that doesn't agree with you is wrong."

No. I dont think that at all. When someone is wrong they are wrong.

" Anyone that agrees with the pgc even a little bit, is wrong."

Not so. Because most people do to some extent "a little bit". Even me.

"That's part of the problem. Without hunters compromising,"

Compromising? lol. Theres only been one party in all this doing all the "compromising". When thats the case it reverts from compromise, to being bent over. lol

...2 solid pages since lunch.....impressive guys.

Best forum argument all day!

Carry on.

I read what you write. I just give it its do, and take it with a grain of salt.

USP? Dont know. Email Slinky and ask 'em. Hows Audubon and the boys? You know...Pgcs right hand men...

Denying the "meltdown"? I dont see how anyone could read that post and not come to the same conclusion i did after the nonsensical barrage of unprovoked name calling & insults.

As for calling others, the "dumbas" that you spoke of. lmao. Perhaps you should take a long look in the mirror before casting stones, because that'n really sounds like an argument for deer management straight out of Harvard. lmao.

Now if youd like to learn about deer management, id be happy to help. If you want to continue hurling insults you can play by yourself.

ORIGINAL: wayne c

"Are you that narrow-minded that you don't recognize ... others may have different thoughts on what good deer hunting may be ? "

When judged on any and all criteria possible to make that judgement, the statement was a falsehood period. He didnt say in his little isolated area, where that may or may not have been the case due to his area being spared the effects that most others have realized... he spoke of the state overall. And thats simply not true. The majority dont think the last couple years have been better, the stats dont show it in any way as "better" therefore it isnt better. All time high levels of hunter dissent. several decades low reported buck harvests, decades low overall harvests...and bigger buck were harvested at a much better rate prior to all the rediculous reductions.

When there is that much evidence to the contrary, its not longer a matter of being "opinion".

Opinion.

ORIGINAL: wayne c

Your denial is about like pointing at a red car and telling everyone its not red, and asking me to prove that its not. lol.

Quit insulting me !!!

ORIGINAL: wayne c

"Were far less than half "successful" before ar/hr ? "


"When managing deer, the pgc should not consider the 90% of the pa population that does NOT hunt ?"

Of course not. But about 90% of that 90% couldnt care less and dont even bother to voice an opinion. So Pgc & environmentalist groups like to lump them all into the "kill the deer" clan.

"If they did, what does that say about them and hunters ? Does public perception of what hunters are viewed as, matter ? "

Maybe the nonvocal, noncaring general public would be more interested and vocal if we werent doing our job and allowed 2 bazillion deer or killed them off all together.... Anything short of those extremes, no, i dont see the soccer moms, the nonhunting city dwellers or in general, the majority of the public as giving a crap....and no, they dont default to-- I support pgc, kill the deer!

Opinion.

ORIGINAL: wayne c

You come off as being of the same mindset ast the environmentalist extremists on a power grab, over-riding hunters as PGC's #1 partnership in conservation & game management issues.

Opinion.

ORIGINAL: wayne c


Compromising? lol. Theres only been one party in all this doing all the "compromising". When thats the case it reverts from compromise, to being bent over. lol

Narrow-minded opinion.

All above was only from two pages of your posts.

I'm laughing at you.

Umm. Ok. Whatever you say. lol.

"All above was only from two pages of your posts."

Yep. And everything stated spot on. Maybe the truth doesnt matter at the ol' woodpile?

ORIGINAL: wayne c

I'm laughing at you.

Umm. Ok. Whatever you say. lol.

"All above was only from two pages of your posts."

Yep. And everything stated spot on. Maybe the truth doesnt matter at the ol' woodpile?

More opinions. Bandwidth is getting full.