line to leader connection

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2007/08/04 22:41:45 (permalink)

line to leader connection

like a little input please.  when using a noodle rod, or spinning gear, what type of connection works best for line to leader connection.  can i use micro swivels or should i use some kind of knot?
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    pghmarty
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    RE: line to leader connection 2007/08/05 00:59:59 (permalink)
    http://www.tnoutdoorsmen.com/knots.htm

    http://www.animatedknots.com/indexfishing.php

    http://www.fish4fun.com/knots.htm

    http://www.thejump.net/fishing-knots/fishing-knots.htm

    I don't practice any of these enough and end up using a bowline knot on each.

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    RE: line to leader connection 2007/08/05 01:41:27 (permalink)
    Actually just use the hook tied directly to line.  The fewer the knots, the less chance of knot failure. 
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    RE: line to leader connection 2007/08/05 07:29:40 (permalink)
    Rapala -
     
    Everybody has their preference, but with a noodle rod, I don't use a leader at all and have had very few breakoffs - maybe 2 or 3 - over the past couple of years.  I use straight 4 lb. mono - usually the cheap stuff from walmart.  It's cheap, and tying straight to your main line is easy and fast.  Some of my friends use straight flourocarbon, 2 or 4 lb, but I've never been a big fan of it.  Still a few others will use 8 lb. main line and flouro leaders tied with some kind of knot line to line with no swivel.
     
    I'm sure you'll get all kinds of answers here, and a lot of different stuff works.  Same way if you'd ask about hook sizes or favorite baits.  My way might not be the best way, but it works for me.  Experiment till you find something you're comfortable with.
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    RE: line to leader connection 2007/08/05 08:07:09 (permalink)
    I like to tie a perfection loop in the end of the main line and leader and loop the two together.   Just seems like the strongest way to me. I haven't had the knot in the loop break yet.
     
    http://www.animatedknots.com/perfection/index.php?LogoImage=LogoGrog.jpg&Website=www.animatedknots.com
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    RE: line to leader connection 2007/08/05 12:28:38 (permalink)
    Rapala11,
          If I am using some kind of spinning bait that I will change often I will attach a small snap swivel to the end of my line (no leader) and hook the  lure on to the swivel. If I am fishing for some toothy fish I will use the same rig except I will use about a 5 foot piece of 15 # line before the lure.  I just make a loop in the heavier line and put it in the snap swivel.  I usually use 5-6 pound line on my reels.  The nice thing about a small snap swivel and what basically ammount to snelled lines is the fact that in a pinch you can nymph a fly on light line on a noodle rod, just by attaching some tippett to the snap.  And the snap acts as a bobber stop and a small wieght.  Win - win situation as far as I'm concerned.  I have also been know to use this rig on my fly rods.

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    RE: line to leader connection 2007/08/05 16:20:04 (permalink)
    I've been having trouble with leeches twisting up my line real bad on my flypole.  Never occured to me to use a swivel.  I haven't used a swivel in over 28 years but it looks like I'm gonna have to get some if I still want to use leechs as bait.  I've been growing monster leeches in the trunk of my car.  They are very easy to keep alive.
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    RE: line to leader connection 2007/08/05 16:32:32 (permalink)
    inds, what i was looking to do was use 6 pound test line, a micro swivel and then a flourocarbon leader with my hook, jig, or fly.  my fingers are a bit arthritic and i thougth a swivel would be easier.
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    RE: line to leader connection 2007/08/05 16:51:00 (permalink)
    Rapala,
     
    A micro swivel will work fine. Most people tend to make Steelheading far more complicated, and detail oriented than it needs to be, or is. VERY seldom do you need to go less than 6lb. test, I never do and consider myself to be fairly successful as a rule. The average angler using 4lb. or less tends to overplay ( potential fataly ) fish.
     
    Spool your reel with you favorite line, and have at it, if you feel more comfortable with a flouro leader, again using a swivle to connect the two will be fine.

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    RE: line to leader connection 2007/08/05 17:19:05 (permalink)
    I often just use Matzuo  18" fluorocarbon snelled hooks # 4, 6 or 8.
    Don't know if they make smaller.

    Flourocarbon snelled hooks
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    post edited by pghmarty - 2007/08/05 17:24:43
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    RE: line to leader connection 2007/08/05 19:01:24 (permalink)
    Rapala11,
        What you are saying is exactly what has plagued me for the last 4 years.  As the result of an injury, I have real trouble with my fine motor skills (lost some feeling in my arms, hands, and fingers so now when I hit the creek I already have a small snap swivel on my line and I carry coils of my favorite leader as I mentioned; which I have tied a knot loop on the end of.  That way when I get to the creek and my movements are further degraded by cold, fatigue, ect.  I can just snap on whatever end I think I will require.  I even carry an extra with a loop on one end and another snap swivel on the other in case I want to fish a flyrod lure on the end of my flyrod, with a long leader.  I can tie all the necessary lines up in the comfort of my chair.  Then I coil them and carry them in old leader baggies.  Not to be confused with lederhosen.  But you could have baggy lederhosen.  Hope this helps.
    post edited by indsguiz - 2007/08/05 19:02:34

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    RE: line to leader connection 2007/08/05 20:09:33 (permalink)
    inds, certainly does.  i have an old leader wallet in one of my tackle boxes.  will start setting up tonight.  thanks inds and to all who offered help. 
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    RE: line to leader connection 2007/08/05 21:12:20 (permalink)
     
    one more question concerning snaps.  i was planning on using a size 12 or 14.  they are pretty small. will they stand up to the run of a steelhead.  sure would hate to have them pull apart. 
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    RE: line to leader connection 2007/08/05 22:58:29 (permalink)
    Another knot website:
     
    http://www.netknots.com/
     
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    RE: line to leader connection 2007/08/05 23:29:58 (permalink)
    i use a uni to uni for all line to line connections. some people say it doesnt hold up but i mainly use power pro with a flouro leader and it has yet to snap at the knot with some noteworthy smallies. critters of the toothy variety are a whole different story. best thing about it is if you tie it right you can cut the tag end back to the knot super close and it doesnt impede the casting distance a bit.
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    RE: line to leader connection 2007/08/06 00:07:45 (permalink)
    Rapala11,
          I have used some down as small as 16 with no ill effects.  Plus they make regular swivels even smaller than that.  I usually use size 14 myself but I have gone smaller.  Hope to see you on the tribs this year.  I will be the fat guy in the Ranger hat cussing because I can't tie flies on correctly.

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