bail money u use 3 to 4 oz barral before the swivel? and why do u go out of northeast instead of in town at east ave. I here they have been hitting at shades  the last few. Isn't there any docks between east ave. and northeast?

Sorry, there is a dock on Lakecliff drive I believe but its not maintained well and is for smaller boats and Jet Ski's. The Lawrence Park fishing club has a boat launch but I dont think its still running. If you have a (small aluminum boat you can launch right at Shades.   I dont think there are any others.   I tell you what try NE marina stop at Poor Richards east on the way get a fishing and water report, bait then let me know what you think. 

I'll try

There used to be a lot more room on the east side streams until a certain bait shop opened on the banks of one and began posting daily eastside reports.  Oh well, it was bound to happen sooner or later.  It is still a shame.

Griffon,
 
You can not lay the blame for the crowds on any ONE thing. Fishing reports, internet, baitshops, magazine/newspaper articles, and word of mouth all played a part.  The biggest reason for the crowds, is a million big fish in streams that should hold less than half that amount. The PF&BC created a fishery, that by DESIGN would attract large numbers of anglers. I remember when few people fished anywhere south of rt. 5. Now these areas are crowded too. Some of that can be blamed on publicity, but for the most part the crowds on the lower end, simply drove folks to explore other areas. Simply put, a fishery such as we find on the tribs. will not, CAN NOT remain a secret long.

Ask yourself if you were opening a business would you put it next to 5 or 6 other businesses doing the same thing.  I wouldnt, I would put it where there was demand and no competition and provide accurate information to your customers.  I do wish there was less pressure I wish me and my friends were the only ones who knew there were steelhead in Erie but reality is more people can access information than ever before and we need to make the best of it as locals we need to set examples as far as what is acceptable behavior and help people out who ask or look like they might need it.  We all learned ehtical behavior somewhere.  If you want change start with yourself. 

I never said good ethics or bad ethics it depends where and from whom you learned them that is why I said we need to set the examples if you could change one persons attitude (for the better) in one season of fishing just think what the snowball effect could be.  Maybe I'm a hopeless optimist.  I get ****ed like anyone else when I get up early tie on a nymph start fishing catch one and have 2 people within 15' of me before I can get back to the spot I was at but what is saying something negative going to do.  Tell them what you caught it on give them pointers and hopefully they will do the same when they have success. 

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