Perch fishing ~ spinning rods

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2007/06/06 20:16:26 (permalink)

Perch fishing ~ spinning rods

I was wondering what the preferred length and action of the spinning rods you all use for catching perch with minnows?......6', 6'6" or 7' length?.....ML, M, or MH action?
 
The last few seasons I've been using a 7' ML action.  Maybe I can do better with a different rod?  Any ideas?

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    RE: Perch fishing ~ spinning rods 2007/06/06 20:53:04 (permalink)
    Greg ----Choose your "weapon" but spool it with Fireline 6 - 8# test -- or your choice of braid/Spiderwire. No stretch, unbeatable feel and sensitivity to bites, bottom, structure bouncing, even stronger swimming minnows --- and an instant solid hookset, even when you're down there deep at 50,60,70' or more. You may over hookset early on, but a little touch and a bite or two and you'll out hook the mono guys every time.
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    RE: Perch fishing ~ spinning rods 2007/06/06 21:16:41 (permalink)
    Use a non stretch line like Power-Pro or other braided 6-8 lb
    You will be able to feel when the sinker hits the bottom and every nibble.
    Use 1/2 to 1 oz weight with live minnow on a #6 hook(I like snelled sircle hooks) when it hits bottom reel in 1-3 turns.
    Feel for bites on the way down.
    For rods anything around 5-7 foot with medium action.
    I prefer a graphite rod because it is more sensittive but usually just use my 7' med action Ugly Stick.

    If you use a perch or crappie rig you might get a few doubles or even tripples.
    If you have a problem with it geting tangled stick to a single hook.
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    RE: Perch fishing ~ spinning rods 2007/06/06 22:04:37 (permalink)
    Greg, I agree with the above posts. It's not so much the rod length, it's the sensitivity, especially in the line.  But, I would not suggest a MH or one that is too soft. I think either a ML or M would work but then again different rods have different sensitivity levels.  One really has to detect sensitive tics when fishing for perch otherwise many fish will be lost. 

    In my opinion, such as in fly fishing, a "fast tip" rod would be the best type. (FYI, baitcasting setups I have used work just as well as spinning and I don't see much difference.)


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    RE: Perch fishing ~ spinning rods 2007/06/07 10:07:40 (permalink)
    If you are going to use braid for sensitivity, I definitely like a rod with a fast tip, helps make up for the braid on the hookset. 
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    RE: Perch fishing ~ spinning rods 2007/06/08 07:07:25 (permalink)
    Not to butt in but how do you do the sinker and the hook for a single hook setup?
    How far are they apart?
     I assume the hook is at the end of the line and that the sinker is 6 inches up.
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    RE: Perch fishing ~ spinning rods 2007/06/08 10:04:31 (permalink)
    My weapon of shoice is a cheap 1pc. quantum UL that I can't seem to break, mated with an Okuma size 20 spooled with 4lb. fireline.  Since the line is so thin, I can downsize the sinker a bit allowing enough backbone for a good hook set.
     
    When still fishing I use a crappie rig with a double end sinker at the bottom.  This allows 3 hooks at one time.  We had nearly a dozen triples last year.
     
    When drifting, I remove the bottom hook to prevent snags.  #6 chemically sharpened hooks all around.w_w.

    If it has fins and gills, I'm there.

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    RE: Perch fishing ~ spinning rods 2007/06/08 10:20:27 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: pghmarty

    Use a non stretch line like Power-Pro or other braided 6-8 lb
    You will be able to feel when the sinker hits the bottom and every nibble.
    Use 1/2 to 1 oz weight with live minnow on a #6 hook(I like snelled sircle hooks) when it hits bottom reel in 1-3 turns.
    Feel for bites on the way down.
    For rods anything around 5-7 foot with medium action.
    I prefer a graphite rod because it is more sensittive but usually just use my 7' med action Ugly Stick.

    If you use a perch or crappie rig you might get a few doubles or even tripples.
    If you have a problem with it geting tangled stick to a single hook.



    I've got the same rod, and I use it for everything but small trout.  It's also what I use for throwing spoons and spinners to steelhead (not like I do that anymore because of flies).  I frikin' love that rod.  Now, I just need to find somebody with a boat to hop into to catch those perch.  Hint, hint w_w.
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    RE: Perch fishing ~ spinning rods 2007/06/08 10:33:07 (permalink)
    I use the good old ugly stick that I've had for trout since I was a kid with 4lb fire line.  For the past two seasons though, spreaders have outproduced crappie rigs for us.  There were plenty of days that we would hardly get a nibble on the crappie rigs and the spreaders were on fire -- our best colors were the firetiger blades on the spreaders.
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    RE: Perch fishing ~ spinning rods 2007/06/08 14:12:27 (permalink)
    Ugly Stick is a good rod w/ braid.  Good fast tip. 
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    RE: Perch fishing ~ spinning rods 2007/06/08 14:48:46 (permalink)
    I have caught more fish on my 7' medium action Ugly Stick than all my other rods combined.
    I bought it around 20 years ago and have never taken good care of it.
    My other rods almost always go in a tube-this one rarely.
    It stays behind my seat or in the tool box.
    While fishing for pompano and spots I caught a 3' shark using it.
    I wonder if the 9' Steelhead Ugly Stick would outperform my St Croix, G Loomis and Lamiglas rods.
    I could buy 2-5 Ugly Sticks for the same price as one of those.


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    RE: Perch fishing ~ spinning rods 2007/06/09 08:14:19 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: sixers

    Not to butt in but how do you do the sinker and the hook for a single hook setup?
    How far are they apart?
    I assume the hook is at the end of the line and that the sinker is 6 inches up.



    I assume you're talking about the drop shot rig:

    http://www.bassresource.com/fishing/drop-shot.html

    Sinker on the bottom, hook(s) above,
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    RE: Perch fishing ~ spinning rods 2007/06/10 15:57:04 (permalink)
    Thanks to all who took the time to reply.  Got another perch question concerning Fireline.  I use 8# test.  Would it be better to use 4# or 6# test Fireline instead?:
     

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    RE: Perch fishing ~ spinning rods 2007/06/11 15:35:06 (permalink)
    I use 6# but I don't suppose it would hurt to use 4#, unless you use double or triple hooks.  A double or triple bite might be too much weight.
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    RE: Perch fishing ~ spinning rods 2007/06/11 15:51:47 (permalink)
    bring doubles & triples in all day long on 4# fireline. No problem. Dave
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    RE: Perch fishing ~ spinning rods 2007/06/11 16:09:48 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: elephanthead

    bring doubles & triples in all day long on 4# fireline. No problem. Dave


    Thanks for adding that.  I didn't want to see him use something that might break off.
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    RE: Perch fishing ~ spinning rods 2007/06/11 16:25:40 (permalink)
    In about a month I will start a thread for the Third Annual FishUSA Perch Outing.  We usually take out the Edward John.  A bunch of us thought that early August would be a good time to do it.

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    RE: Perch fishing ~ spinning rods 2007/08/04 23:52:34 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: beerman

    I was wondering what the preferred length and action of the spinning rods you all use for catching perch with minnows?......6', 6'6" or 7' length?.....ML, M, or MH action?

    The last few seasons I've been using a 7' ML action.  Maybe I can do better with a different rod?  Any ideas?

     
    So which action is preferred....Medium Light...Medium Action...length?

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    RE: Perch fishing ~ spinning rods 2007/08/05 08:22:37 (permalink)
    It probably depends on the make of rod and what that company considers Medium and medium heavy.  You want a rod that doesn't flex much with a once ounce sinker on it. Or at least that's what I want. If you're out there bouncing around in waves it gets tough to see a bite with a rod that bends down every time you go up a wave, then flings back up when the sinker taps the bottom.
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    RE: Perch fishing ~ spinning rods 2007/08/05 08:24:30 (permalink)
    Greg,
    I like 6'-7' medium action rods.
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    RE: Perch fishing ~ spinning rods 2007/08/05 10:58:32 (permalink)
    6' Bass Pro Bionic Blade MH rod. They are a little pricey but worth it.
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    RE: Perch fishing ~ spinning rods 2007/08/05 12:22:47 (permalink)
    I like using a 6- 6 1/2' im6 (fin nor) with stren green. I feel the the perch when they just mouth the bait and it is plenty sensitive to feel when they are really biting, IMO  with the braided you dont feel it unless they bite or nibble. The main thing is use a graphite rod 
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