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Lets talk steelhead - 7/23/2008 6:34:54 PM

saltflyfisher

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W/ all the talk of gas and politics, lets just stray from there w/ this thread. There is some time to go and pretty soon a mans fancy turns to steelhead. Thats right, waders, flies, minnows, jigs and of course crowds. Getting ready for the new season, does that mean: tying flies and jigs, buying a new rod or reel, changing lines, or a new set of waders.

The question is: What is that you have to do to get the season ready to enjoy?

My to do list is a new set of waders and going through the flies and boxes.

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RE: Lets talk steelhead - 7/23/2008 6:52:51 PM

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1 no holes in waders

2 new spool of line , tippet and good sharp hooks

3 fresh cool fall air

4 enough running water for the run

5 peace and quiet

6 and of coarse a full flask of the top shelf stuff to keep me warm.

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RE: Lets talk steelhead - 7/23/2008 7:17:12 PM

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A couple hundred yard spools of flurocarbon tippet 4x, 5x, and 6x.
Tie about 200 globugs and other assorted egg flies.
Test out my new fly reel on some stripers when it arrives in the mail.
Tie a few dozen emerald shiner streamers.
New indicators.
Getting away from the crowds.
Hooking that first fresh fish of the year on a cool fall morning.

Just doesn't get any better than that.

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RE: Lets talk steelhead - 7/23/2008 8:51:34 PM

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1- Drive to Erie
2- Fish

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RE: Lets talk steelhead - 7/23/2008 8:57:28 PM

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Way too early for this!!!!

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RE: Lets talk steelhead - 7/23/2008 9:04:31 PM

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1) pack freezer with walleyes
2) kill elk and deer
3) slay steelies with minimal effort and cost compared to walleyes
4) catch muskies
5) back to walleye

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RE: Lets talk steelhead - 7/23/2008 10:19:49 PM

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Stream Etiquette

Stream etiquette is important both for everyone's enjoyment of the sport, and to preserve our privilege and opportunity to fish. Please consider the following suggestions:
Upon arriving be sure you have parked in an approved area (see stream descriptions) and make sure your vehicle is off the road. Do not park on anyone's lawn and do not block any roads or driveways.

Most of our streams are on private property. Contrary to popular belief, in Pennsylvania you can own the stream bed, and a landowner can prevent others from walking anywhere on, around or in the creek. If you are fishing on private property, ask permission to fish if you can identify the landowner. Consider offering the landowner a fillet or to clean up the area in return for the privilege of fishing on his or her property.

When arriving at the streams, remember many areas run through residential neighborhoods. Remain quiet, especially at dawn.

Walk in or along stream beds as much as possible; avoid private lawns as much as possible.

Keep flashlights pointed at the ground.

Never "relieve yourself" within sight of any person or home. Nothing will make the landowner mad faster.

Be courteous to those already on the streams. Walk behind other anglers and out of the water if possible. If you must stay in the water, walk with a minimum surface disturbance. Do not walk through the area where others are fishing. If the area is deep, you should probably be fishing it, not walking through it.

When conditions are crowded be aware of your fellow anglers. Watch where you cast to avoid tangles and injury.

Just because you were "there first" does not mean you can continue to fish as large an area as you please regardless of how many other anglers arrive. Fish an area appropriate for the number of people fishing around you.

In crowded conditions, play your catch only as much as necessary.

If your are inexperienced, the best education is from watching those who are successful. Crowded stream conditions seem to form a cooperative camaraderie among anglers that can be enjoyed even when it is "elbow to elbow." Many anglers are more than willing to assist you if you ask.

Foul language is unnecessary, especially around younger anglers.

Be tolerant of the inexperienced angler . . . remember we were all beginners once.

If in a crowd, alert others when you have a "fish on."

Leave with everything you bring. Litter can be a real threat to our fishing privileges.

Do not keep any more fish than you are going to make use of. If you do not think you will eat the fish, put it back gently and give someone else the opportunity to enjoy the catch.

Do not clean fish in or around the streams. It is discourteous to residents, and it is prohibited by the Fish Commission.

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RE: Lets talk steelhead - 7/24/2008 12:57:30 AM

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You also forgot:

Be courteous to others by NOT using 2lb. test so that when you yell "fish on" everyone has to stop fishing and watch you fight your fish for 25 minutes.

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RE: Lets talk steelhead - 7/24/2008 8:26:28 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: KJH807

Stream Etiquette

Stream etiquette is important both for everyone's enjoyment of the sport, and to preserve our privilege and opportunity to fish. Please consider the following suggestions:
Upon arriving be sure you have parked in an approved area (see stream descriptions) and make sure your vehicle is off the road. Do not park on anyone's lawn and do not block any roads or driveways.

Most of our streams are on private property. Contrary to popular belief, in Pennsylvania you can own the stream bed, and a landowner can prevent others from walking anywhere on, around or in the creek. If you are fishing on private property, ask permission to fish if you can identify the landowner. Consider offering the landowner a fillet or to clean up the area in return for the privilege of fishing on his or her property.

When arriving at the streams, remember many areas run through residential neighborhoods. Remain quiet, especially at dawn.

Walk in or along stream beds as much as possible; avoid private lawns as much as possible.

Keep flashlights pointed at the ground.

Never "relieve yourself" within sight of any person or home. Nothing will make the landowner mad faster.

Be courteous to those already on the streams. Walk behind other anglers and out of the water if possible. If you must stay in the water, walk with a minimum surface disturbance. Do not walk through the area where others are fishing. If the area is deep, you should probably be fishing it, not walking through it.

When conditions are crowded be aware of your fellow anglers. Watch where you cast to avoid tangles and injury.

Just because you were "there first" does not mean you can continue to fish as large an area as you please regardless of how many other anglers arrive. Fish an area appropriate for the number of people fishing around you.

In crowded conditions, play your catch only as much as necessary.

If your are inexperienced, the best education is from watching those who are successful. Crowded stream conditions seem to form a cooperative camaraderie among anglers that can be enjoyed even when it is "elbow to elbow." Many anglers are more than willing to assist you if you ask.

Foul language is unnecessary, especially around younger anglers.

Be tolerant of the inexperienced angler . . . remember we were all beginners once.

If in a crowd, alert others when you have a "fish on."

Leave with everything you bring. Litter can be a real threat to our fishing privileges.

Do not keep any more fish than you are going to make use of. If you do not think you will eat the fish, put it back gently and give someone else the opportunity to enjoy the catch.

Do not clean fish in or around the streams. It is discourteous to residents, and it is prohibited by the Fish Commission.

This is a good post

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RE: Lets talk steelhead - 7/24/2008 9:43:13 AM

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Catch more flatheads.
Tune up with a couple Yough trips.
Maybe a new reel or new line at least on the old one. (6lb P Line Floroclear)
New vest. (Do not buy Gander Mountain vests)
Couple new stocking caps.
Couple new spinners and spoons for the mouths.
Tie up new jigs even though I tied hundreds last year that dont even have the eyelets poked out yet.
Buy about 6 of the same color 1.75 inch flatfish that get inhaled year after year to get me through the season.
Some new floats for singles.
Handful of beadhead nymphs to float.
Couple packs of egg hooks.
Take out a loan for gas money. 2 hours and back is not what it used to be when its 25-30 trips.

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RE: Lets talk steelhead - 7/24/2008 9:51:18 AM

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I want to SLOW DOWN this year. I find myself getting so caught up in the moment that I don't put my patterns away properly in there boxes resulting in loose flies that fall out of the box. I need to learn to band or secure my tippet materials on my lanyard to keep them from creating a spider web of line on my chest. I will protect my hemos from loss by securing them after each use instead of putting them in a "handy" area that when you bend over they fall in the drink resulting in loss or a wet armpit. I will get a new net with a magnet large enough to pick up a compact car,I am soooo tired of picking up that damn net or playing Leonard Nemoy ( In Search Of). I will rember kleenex or hankerchief, a frozen forearm is no place to wipe a nose. I will learn to take a leak as soon as I have to instead of waiting because I think I willl miss something, this is a huge time waster because I tend to do the Bladder shuffle while trying to tie on a number 18 hook with frozen fingers,snot running down my nose and shivering like a dog crapping razor blades( it reminds me of the camel and the eye of the needle thing). I may get a wading staff ( I don't have the balance of a Flying Wallenda anymore) besides if I go down I don't want Gordon Lightfoot doing a ballad about me. Last I will not sleep on the three hour trip home...Route 79 is no place to nap at least when you are the driver. See you in the fall.

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RE: Lets talk steelhead - 7/24/2008 10:08:25 AM

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I may get a wading staff ( I don't have the balance of a Flying Wallenda anymore) besides if I go down I don't want Gordon Lightfoot doing a ballad about me.

i am your twin.

man, this is going to be a great post.........

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RE: Lets talk steelhead - 7/24/2008 10:34:54 AM

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Best way to fish for steelhead is to not fish for steelhead.....GO DEER HUNTING!

You think its bad working a 2mile area for walleye in a pack...how about a 4ft hole 100ft wide with 70 other guys trying to catch the 10 fish left in there....lol

I dont even want to think about steelhead or all the problems that comes along with that season. Vehicles getting broken into, stuff gettin stolen, all the litter all over the place, guys down at walnut sleeping in trucks drunk arguing over who bought the last case of beer......

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RE: Lets talk steelhead - 7/24/2008 11:25:35 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: KJH807

If your are inexperienced, the best education is from watching those who are successful. Crowded stream conditions seem to form a cooperative camaraderie among anglers that can be enjoyed even when it is "elbow to elbow." Many anglers are more than willing to assist you if you ask.

This is the best advice I've ever got. People probably get wierded out cause they think I'm staring at them. But in reality if someone walks up to the hole I've been fishing at and starts hammering them. I'll just stop and watch them. See what they're doing maybe ask them what they're using. I've learned more about fishing for steelhead from not fishing and just watching the more seasoned anglers. You know them when you see them.

I took my brother up to Erie for the first time last year and gave him the same advice. I'll pass on what little I know but tell him to just watch for the guys that are consistantly catching fish and study what they're doing.

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RE: Lets talk steelhead - 7/24/2008 11:32:00 AM

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I wondered why you were staring at me... :) You guys from Clearfield were extras in the movie Deliverance.... I fished Lumber city on tuesday out of my kayak and I swear I saw Burt Reynolds and Ned Beatty in a canoe:)

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RE: Lets talk steelhead - 7/24/2008 11:36:52 AM

pxatim

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haha nah it's them frenchville boys down by the powerplant you have to watch out for

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RE: Lets talk steelhead - 7/24/2008 12:11:30 PM

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CB, boy can you burst my bubble. For a minute there I thought we would have an upbeat thread, but no. Had to throw reality in the mix didn't ya? I do agree w/ the deer hunting, I'm looking forward to sept's start.

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ORIGINAL: Carpet Bagger

Best way to fish for steelhead is to not fish for steelhead.....GO DEER HUNTING!

You think its bad working a 2mile area for walleye in a pack...how about a 4ft hole 100ft wide with 70 other guys trying to catch the 10 fish left in there....lol

I dont even want to think about steelhead or all the problems that comes along with that season. Vehicles getting broken into, stuff gettin stolen, all the litter all over the place, guys down at walnut sleeping in trucks drunk arguing over who bought the last case of beer......

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RE: Lets talk steelhead - 7/24/2008 12:21:48 PM

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1. new fly line (i want to try something different this year so let me know what you like if you want)
2. tie up some new tube fly patterns i have been reading about
3. a few new float indicators
4. a bunch of gas money

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RE: Lets talk steelhead - 7/24/2008 2:08:00 PM

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1. Plenty of 4# flourocarbon
2. Good assortment of different colored egg sacs. Brown eggs if you got them.
3 Dozens of minnows
4. Several #14 Diacchi hooks
5. Hopefully cool conditions
6. Nice flowing streams
7. A couple buddies to enjoy it with
8. COPENHAGEN!

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RE: Lets talk steelhead - 7/24/2008 2:42:27 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Carpet Bagger

Best way to fish for steelhead is to not fish for steelhead.....GO DEER HUNTING!

You think its bad working a 2mile area for walleye in a pack...how about a 4ft hole 100ft wide with 70 other guys trying to catch the 10 fish left in there....lol

I dont even want to think about steelhead or all the problems that comes along with that season. Vehicles getting broken into, stuff gettin stolen, all the litter all over the place, guys down at walnut sleeping in trucks drunk arguing over who bought the last case of beer......

If you think that is all that PA steelhead fishing has to offer, you just didn't try hard enough. That would be similar to me going out on the lake and not catching a fish, and saying that Lake Erie walleye fishing sucks. Not trying to change your opinion about it, if you'd rather deer hunt, then go deer hunting.

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RE: Lets talk steelhead - 7/24/2008 2:55:19 PM

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Believe me...Ill be deer hunting.... I have no interest in being elbow to elbow with a bunch of guys fighting over 5 pieces of catfood in a puddle....

In all seriousness, I can understand the idea behind it, and can see why some enjoy it, but the idiocy that happens from manchester hole to the lake on Walnut is pretty much ridiculous....I could see enjoying being alone fishing and having fun, but then to come back to your truck to find the windows bashed out of it and all your gear gone...well that I wouldnt enjoy...well thats about sums up what happens in Erie, Pa during steelhead fishing. Some are very professional about it and enjoy fishing...and others are up there just to cause alot of problems, poach a bunch of fish, and rob a bunch of vehicles....

PA is really close to losing my fishing license money each year...

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RE: Lets talk steelhead - 7/24/2008 3:03:04 PM

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CB,
You really had your windows bashed out??? Maybe it was the Browns sticker that caused it:). It is "stiller" country. All joking aside I have fished Erie for 20 years and never had an incident...I have mostly met great people and for the most part avoid the crowd by walking a bit more than the stop sign holers. You can find some peace here...

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RE: Lets talk steelhead - 7/24/2008 3:27:56 PM

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I get more grief and aggravation on this message board than I ever have in Erie. The steelhead experience has really grown on me in the last year and a half. In past years, if I made it up once or twice, it was really quite enough, but last year, I made close to a dozen trips and enjoyed every one, even in the freezing cold with only one or two fish to my credit.

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RE: Lets talk steelhead - 7/24/2008 4:32:01 PM

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Nope never had my truck broken into...know of quite a few people who have though.. I stay away from the creeks and sit in a tree and seek tasty little forest creatures in the fall and winter.

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RE: Lets talk steelhead - 7/24/2008 4:44:13 PM

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To Get ready for steelhead:
        Tie my grandson to the tying bench till he gets the 26 dozen different flies tied that I think I'll need. (no need to worry about child labor laws, he's related, and I'm not paying him).
        Finish about 6 bamboo rods so I can give them away.
        Make sure the "One Fly" happens as planned.
        Try, and try, to just ONCE catch more steel in a day than Bughawk.
        Meet up with Bug, T.T., Skip, Worm Waster and the rest for at least one day.
        Try to find some way to get the 36 foot boat that I found (Very Cheap) to Erie.

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RE: Lets talk steelhead - 7/24/2008 4:51:39 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Carpet Bagger

Best way to fish for steelhead is to not fish for steelhead.....GO DEER HUNTING!

You think its bad working a 2mile area for walleye in a pack...how about a 4ft hole 100ft wide with 70 other guys trying to catch the 10 fish left in there....lol

I dont even want to think about steelhead or all the problems that comes along with that season. Vehicles getting broken into, stuff gettin stolen, all the litter all over the place, guys down at walnut sleeping in trucks drunk arguing over who bought the last case of beer......

Amen CB! Brings out the idiots bigtime. Why do you think a lot of the oldtimers quit posting on here. Get your crying towels out babies! OK, now tear me a new a$$hole.

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RE: Lets talk steelhead - 7/24/2008 9:51:00 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: walcat01

quote:

ORIGINAL: Carpet Bagger

Best way to fish for steelhead is to not fish for steelhead.....GO DEER HUNTING!

You think its bad working a 2mile area for walleye in a pack...how about a 4ft hole 100ft wide with 70 other guys trying to catch the 10 fish left in there....lol

I dont even want to think about steelhead or all the problems that comes along with that season. Vehicles getting broken into, stuff gettin stolen, all the litter all over the place, guys down at walnut sleeping in trucks drunk arguing over who bought the last case of beer......

Amen CB! Brings out the idiots bigtime. Why do you think a lot of the oldtimers quit posting on here. Get your crying towels out babies! OK, now tear me a new a$$hole.

I know alot of oldtimers who quit steelhead fishing here because its become such a zoo.

Nothing against steelhead though, I would like to head to the west coast someday and fish for the real thing.

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RE: Lets talk steelhead - 7/25/2008 10:27:15 AM

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1. Improve on my imperfect drift. This will be my second season. Depth and weight is still a mystery to me. Stock up on suckerspawns, egg sacs, and mini foos.

2. Make sure I miss the should have been here yesterday mantra and be there on fish!

3. Catch my first freshiebiggun on some spoons at the mouth, so need to stock up.

4. Carry some hankies to keep from wiping the snot off my face with juicy jacket sleeves and powerbait sloppy frozen fingers. That was a good point posted earlier.

5. Homebrew session 2 stillhead stout, an american style and its close cousin Fish On Chocolate Porter. Tasty and delicious.

6. Whup my buddies ass at fantasy football cause we are playin for a rod and reel of choice for the next season.

7. Keep learning so I can teach my boys and take them out in a few more years because thats what its all about for me. Just good times and tight lines for all.

I feel the cold trying to break my concentration following the drift then bloop goes the little tiny bobber, set,and FISH ON!!! What a sequence of beauty.

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RE: Lets talk steelhead - 7/25/2008 12:34:22 PM

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What are your guys thoughts on those who take your spot while landing a fish? I have had that happen to me, but never would do that to anybody else.

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RE: Lets talk steelhead - 7/25/2008 12:38:36 PM

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ignorant motherf.....!!! had it happen to me more than once and have only been fishing for steelhead 1 year. what is the thought process of that individual.

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