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Kicker Question - 7/8/2008 1:21:52 PM

Katty

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Can I mix my gas at 100 to 1; if I only run the motor at 1/2 throttle or less?
Will it reduce the smoke and plug fouling?

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RE: Kicker Question - 7/8/2008 2:12:40 PM

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get yourself some cleaner burning 2storke oil. Synthetic Blend or full Synthetic.

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RE: Kicker Question - 7/8/2008 2:18:59 PM

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Try using a platinum or premium plug like splitfire.

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RE: Kicker Question - 7/8/2008 2:19:48 PM

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Wouldn't recommend it. You could probably lean the mix down some but I wouldn't cut it in half. There are some oils that mix at 100 to 1, amsoil comes to mind, that should reduce fouling and some exhaust smoke. Helps too if you open it up once in a while to blow it out some. Best thing to do is trade it on a 4 stroke, LOTS of benefits to gain. Hard to spend the $ though.

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RE: Kicker Question - 7/8/2008 4:06:31 PM

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I am not positive if this can is the same for outboards, but something to wonder about. I know that some four wheelers that are two stroke that have auto oil injection vary the mixture depending on throttle position. At idle it is injected the equilivent of 200:1 and is varied to about 20:1 at wot. It would be interesting to see if outboards that are oil injected do the same. If that was the case you could go less oil... how much is really the question.

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RE: Kicker Question - 7/8/2008 4:16:28 PM

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One thing I can tell you, you'll know when you went too far.

I have known people that carried two tanks with them, one mixed for running and one for trolling but I'm not sure of the mix levels.

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RE: Kicker Question - 7/8/2008 4:20:38 PM

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Get some new plugs by a good make...not champion or autolite...Get NGK or Splitfire...ect ect...some 2 stroke motors you can even run a plug a degree or so hotter as well...you just dont want to go too hot. Get good plugs and good TCW-3 2stroke oil and you should get it to purr like a kitten again...when you are done each day you might want to rev it up and clean it out a little so you dont get any carbon or buildup in the motor that would cause you to foul plugs...

4 strokes do save you tons of money and run very efficient, but require the initial investment...any small outboard is going to save you money trolling vs your main engine...

I have a motor for sale thats a Johnson 9.9hp 4 stoke with controls and my buddy has a 8hp Nissan 4 stroke for sale as well.

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RE: Kicker Question - 7/8/2008 4:24:40 PM

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I use to have the same problem with small 2 cycle motors IE: chainsaw, weed wacker, blower etc... I went to a premium oil and there's a LOT less smoke and fouling.

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RE: Kicker Question - 7/8/2008 10:19:46 PM

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Splitfire??? You are right on the NGK's but I have seen a lot of problems with the Splitfire plugs in the automotive world and would not recommend them at all. Granted I have never tried them in a 2 stroke but if it cant handle a gas engine I dont think I would run it in a engine that burned a gas oil mix.

Injected outboards do adjust oil mixture to running speeds but I have no idea to what extent. I would rather put up with the smoke and occassional fouled plug then ruin a motor. If you know someone that is doing it and has had no problems for years it might not be a bad idea to follow thier suggestions but be careful

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RE: Kicker Question - 7/13/2008 11:48:02 AM

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It all depends on how old the motor is and when the last time you had it "tuned up", that involves changing plugs, checking points (if it has them), and rebuilding the carb. You can try running better oils, but on my old Merc's it doesn't matter what kind of oil I use, they were built on 37 year old technology, they just smoke. The one thing you should do before you start for the day and after you are done trolling is to run the motor at wide open throtle for a few minutes, IN GEAR. I will typically make a 5 minute run before and after. That will help to "blow out" all the crap that builds up. Another thing to keep in mind... What is less expensive, fouling out your plugs and replacing them more offten or running the motor leaner and ruining bearings, pistons or cylinders?

As a side note, I have heard a lot of guys, not on here, complaining about their motors loading up, stalling out and generally acting up while trolling. The one thing that you have to remember is that no motor on this earth, aside for electrics and the new bigfoot motors, was designed to run for hours on end at very low speeds. Doesn't matter what motor you are talking about, even 3-4 horse, they were designed to go on an apropriate sized boat and run as high an RPM as possible that produces the best horse power. So no matter what size motor you are using as a trolling motor it will always have problems unless you are running it at the higher end of it's RPM range(half throtle or better). I got rid of the 9.8 Merc on my boat last summer after it gave me nothing but headaches and replaced it with a 4HP Merc. I will never look back. Yes, I have to run the smaller motor at a higher speed, but it uses less gas and smokes less, because it is running more efficiently.

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