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Gars Eating Cut Bait - 8/20/2008 1:16:08 PM   
beerman0303

 

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Status: offline 		Anybody else having trouble with gar eating their cut bait.  I landed one gar fishing for cats last week and had about ten other hits that I know weren't cats.  Anyone else having this problem? Any tips on how to minimize it?
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RE: Gars Eating Cut Bait - 8/20/2008 4:01:10 PM   
Carphead

 

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Status: offline 		Beerdude, because of the shape and anatomy of a gars mouth, they need to reposition baitfish so that they can be swallowed head/tail first. They seem to grab the bait, swim a short distance and drop it or open their mouths slightly till it is head or tail first. They do this 3 or more times so thats oneof the reasons guys miss them; they set the hook too soon. Guys also miss Gar because their hooks are not razor sharp. Essentially you are setting hook into rock hard bone. If you think your hooks might be sharp enough to penetrate your aluminum boat or a cinder block they are NOT sharp enough for Gar. Hooks should be rediculously sharp.
Oh yeah, if its Gar going after your cutbait, maybe its too big of a piece.

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RE: Gars Eating Cut Bait - 8/20/2008 4:53:36 PM   
anadromous

 

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Status: online 		You want to hook a gar? Take a hook and serve it with a piece of nylon rope. Take the ends and fray then out, now tie knots in the end of the rope strands. Put your cut bait on the hook and let the knotted rope splay around the bait(like a jig and pig so to speak). The knots will get caught in the gars teeth and you will reel him in eliminating your bait thief. Check it out...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_eIIH1X27k&feature=related


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RE: Gars Eating Cut Bait - 8/20/2008 5:48:16 PM   
gizmos

 

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Status: offline 		Mmmmmm..... Did have a quick breakoff the other night. Cut bait had barely hit the bottom, if it did. Did not consider gar.......

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RE: Gars Eating Cut Bait - 9/1/2008 11:29:18 PM   
vinestbrew


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Status: online 		I have been wondering the same thing....

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RE: Gars Eating Cut Bait - 9/2/2008 12:16:10 AM   
gizmos

 

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Status: offline 		Going to give some variation of the rope thing a try !

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RE: Gars Eating Cut Bait - 9/11/2008 11:24:58 AM   
JEB


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Status: offline 		They have been in around the dam in New Brighton pretty heavy this year too.

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RE: Gars Eating Cut Bait - 9/11/2008 1:02:32 PM   
beerman0303

 

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Status: offline 		Friday I landed 3 and reeled at least 5 more halfway in.  They were once again eating my cut bait and live chubs all night long.  Kinda sucks!

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RE: Gars Eating Cut Bait - 9/12/2008 12:24:09 AM   
HardCore Fisher


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Status: offline 		If your goal is to catch gar then buy small minnows, like the ones you would use for trout, use #12 or 14 hooks and a bobber with about 2-3 ft above your bait, when u get a taker, let it swim for a bit then give em a good yank and you'll get em, always works for me, i usually go around 20 for 40 when we're tryin for them lol, Cabelas has a huge 1 in their tank down in Wheeling.

Ronnie

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RE: Gars Eating Cut Bait - 9/12/2008 8:17:28 AM   
BASS ACKWARDS


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Status: offline 		Any one got any pic's of gar they caught. I have never caught one, but it sounds like a challenging fish to keep on the hook  -

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RE: Gars Eating Cut Bait - 9/12/2008 7:22:29 PM   
leadmen

 

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Status: offline 		sharp small hooks and minnies let them run not very big but a little fight and they try to bite when you try for the hook we got a dozen or so a few years back and were going to put them in a tank they died to much slime they plugged up the pump fisty little plicks ive seen big ones in texas no joke in 100lb range a guy was beating it with a bat he was going to clean it for dinner funny stuff a gar hanging by a tree and this mexcian beating like he was trying for candy at a party

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RE: Gars Eating Cut Bait - 9/12/2008 10:47:11 PM   
Carphead

 

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Status: offline 		Leadmen, if that fish in texas was around 100lbs, I'd bet it all to say it was an alligator gar not a longnose gar. We, unfourtanately, don't have alligator gar in Pennsylvania.



This is an alligator gar (first pic). The second picture is a long nose gar.




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RE: Gars Eating Cut Bait - 9/13/2008 9:54:15 AM   
leadmen

 

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Status: offline 		a lot smaller up here and not alligator gar max size is 36" up here and around 3" thick i wish we had the big gar i had a few hook ups but never got one in we fished the guadaloup

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RE: Gars Eating Cut Bait - 9/13/2008 3:10:07 PM   
mr.crappie

 

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Status: offline 		Carphead,They also have longnose gar in Texas,I have caught them in the 50" ,15-20# range.This was in the Dallas area. They were great fighters & jumpers, much like musky. After missing quite a few because of thier long bills we tied a stinger treble hook below the bluegill we were using & started to hook them in the bill.  sam

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RE: Gars Eating Cut Bait - 9/13/2008 5:05:18 PM   
leadmen

 

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Status: offline 		i seen on the outdoor chan called big fish hunter they went after gars and sturgon and also snake heads i wish i had taped it i think it ran on disc chan also thye fished gars with a jug trout line 150lb wire leader and strung a few lines up and down the river good show hay the other one was linder he did one on gator gars he said a 4ft was small ,ha ok i have not got one yet ,but im not dead so its on my things to do ive got a long list and kids being able to travel without a diaper bag is good  

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RE: Gars Eating Cut Bait - 9/16/2008 1:01:19 AM   
Carphead

 

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Status: offline 		Mr. Crappie, I know they have longnose gar in Texas, but they sure as hell don't have any 100 lb longnose gar swimming around.

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RE: Gars Eating Cut Bait - 9/16/2008 7:38:44 AM   
leadmen

 

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Status: offline 		not long nose gar but gator gars if that wasnot a gar it was the worlds biggest muskey and that mexcian was doing a bad thing eating it

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RE: Gars Eating Cut Bait - 9/17/2008 1:28:19 PM   
viperjry

 

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Status: offline 		Here's a Longnose Gar I caught on the Mon in July.








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RE: Gars Eating Cut Bait - 9/18/2008 5:57:10 AM   
leadmen

 

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Status: offline 		that is almost full grown

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RE: Gars Eating Cut Bait - 9/18/2008 1:04:15 PM   
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Status: online 		i've caught a few over the 30 inch mark, there everywhere down at emsworth wall staring at dark

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RE: Gars Eating Cut Bait - 9/19/2008 5:20:08 AM   
leadmen

 

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Status: offline 		we see alot of them around warm water outs by the power plants

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RE: Gars Eating Cut Bait - 9/19/2008 11:58:39 AM   
Deadbolt401


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Status: online 		I hate gar, they're becoming annoying now.

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RE: Gars Eating Cut Bait - 9/27/2008 12:07:55 AM   
fishawk59

 

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Status: offline 		I THINK WHAT HE MENT WAS HE WAS FISHING FOR CATFICH AND KEPT GETTING GAR  I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM BUT NOT TOO MUCH JUST TAKE THEM OFF THE HOOK AND DISCARD REBATE AND TRY FOR CATFISH IS ALL I DO I USE CUT SHAD . BLUE GIL   IN THE MISS. RIVER  NOT A REAL BIG PROBLEM BUT A NUSENCEALSO TRY FISHING FASTER WATER GAR LIKE SLOW WATER LIKE BEHIND WING DAMS AND SLEWS ETC.
GOOD LUCK HAVE A GREAT DAY

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