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Re: The Great Lake Adventures 2015 Report page 2015/08/28 10:36:49 (permalink)
Well I'm somewhat of a govt conspiracy thinker so here goes the theory .
If the lake is in danger with forage and the dec is saying record levels of natural salmon reproduction is occurring , how do you try to balance things from a crash ?
1. Try and stock more forage base
2. Try to reduce stocking the preparatory base
3. Increase the stocking of lake trout ( which they did ) to combat the invasive base which neither salmon or steelhead feed on .
4. Tell everyone things are just fine and its just an off/ bad year .
5. Go fishing and keep supporting the fishery
I like # 5 until it is no longer a realistic approach

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Re: The Great Lake Adventures 2015 Report page 2015/08/28 10:40:45 (permalink)
Trevor and tuna all good input. Trev, I hear you on conspiracy theories, but I never count it out. Anything is possible... And in this case, we all know how much "they" want Atlantic's to come back. I personally wouldn't mind an Atlantic/laker/brook trout fishery myself. The snobbery and political end that comes along with a fishery of that type may be a different story
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Re: The Great Lake Adventures 2015 Report page 2015/08/28 10:53:49 (permalink)
Even in those 'dead' Steel years Tuna and Andy speak of I kept on coming up to fish them-some years zip and some a couple of fish.
There were, however, far fewer fisherman- as Tuna points out that has changed with increased Steel populations.
Kind of see where in the near future Fewer fishermen could be a natural result of fewer game fishes.
Betcha its already  happening on the Lake.
Another poor Summer and early fall fishery will likely cause many not to come and some pros to fold- not to mention tackle businesses and other related support business.
Too bad.
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Re: The Great Lake Adventures 2015 Report page 2015/08/28 10:59:39 (permalink)
Meanwhile the DSR reports Kings and Coho sighted and a couple caught.Also,back at the end of July HT stated the cleaning station was doing 300 fish/day and lots of fish were being caught,it's a big lake and there's some out there somewhere.
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Re: The Great Lake Adventures 2015 Report page 2015/08/28 11:00:39 (permalink)
I'm seeing shops closed the past few weeks when theyre usually opened. Can't squeeze blood from a stone.
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Re: The Great Lake Adventures 2015 Report page 2015/08/28 11:05:53 (permalink)
Is this the whole lake or more of an East end thing- seem to recall last year Canada and out West things seemed better. Some may have questioned if it was related to ice over conditions in different places..
Numbers crashed in the other lakes  then rebounded -  it seemed to be said  because of Ontario's Depth it was safe from the 'other lake' conditions- now its us.
Tuna or Andy- DSR reported only 6 anglers yesterday  8/27--- is that normal ?? Heck ,have seen more guys than that upriver on August hikes in the past.
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Re: The Great Lake Adventures 2015 Report page 2015/08/28 11:18:42 (permalink)
Trev that used to be the norm... Until August salmon got hyped... Well, maybe things are falling back in to place which is a good thing
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Re: The Great Lake Adventures 2015 Report page 2015/08/28 14:26:43 (permalink)
Jack,
when the cleaning station "reported" 300 fish I know there were 2 pretty major tournaments going on at that time.. My marina had 65 boats in theirs and I think the other tourney was the Oswego pro-am..
I did see lines at the cleaning station, we were there to get ours cleaned.. The fish I seen were 90 % 2 year olds..
Maybe everyone just found that pod of fish and capitalized ?
My brother in law has been out on the lake all day today from Oswego to the SR from 180 fow to 115 fow and has not caught anything..
 
I'm not saying the DSR is hyping things but I know they have the open house this weekend .. There were LOTS of employees preparing for the event all week while I was up there..
I always took their reports very lightly and have no doubt "some" fish hit the river..
 

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Re: The Great Lake Adventures 2015 Report page 2015/08/28 15:56:51 (permalink)
Rich,it does n't look good from what you are seeing but it's a big lake and they could be somewhere that no one is fishing.I sure hope so as I need my SR fix!
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Re: The Great Lake Adventures 2015 Report page 2015/08/28 16:47:25 (permalink)
Jack , your a far better fisherman then I ever will be . I'm sure you will get a fix and maybe hit the best run in history :)

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Re: The Great Lake Adventures 2015 Report page 2015/08/28 17:49:22 (permalink)
Shane Thomas is reporting 20 whacks a day in the past few days in 40-60'
Clients had some 20+ kings, along with a few coho and browns. I fished with the dude , he seemed pretty straight and very  knowledgeable. Clients aren't calling BS on him.  I don't know what's considered good or average, but he seems positive. Of course, he needs a paycheck. Whitakers has good lake reports, too. I guess this all falls under the heading of the BS that everyone says the shops and guides hand out in bad times. I don't expect great guns, just a reduced run. I expect I'll be netting some for you, Jack. That's if you can trust a Polish net man, I put the pointy end in the water.
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Re: The Great Lake Adventures 2015 Report page 2015/08/28 18:52:52 (permalink)
I seen shane and Johnny both go out this week. They must be great fishers to catch that many and come back in in an hr . Very few were fishing in that shallow on the 2 days I got out or watched from shore when we didn't .

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Re: The Great Lake Adventures 2015 Report page 2015/08/28 18:54:56 (permalink)
Fish on baby....Come to Pulaski NY and catch fish, feed the coffers of the local establishments.....It's game on baby!!!
 
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Re: The Great Lake Adventures 2015 Report page 2015/08/28 19:53:54 (permalink)
DSR says two customers drug out three fish.They said there were about 30 in the Joss hole.Other anglers reported seeing fish.
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Re: The Great Lake Adventures 2015 Report page 2015/08/28 20:01:32 (permalink)
My mistake, Shane's last trip was the 24th. I looked at his last Facebook post that says "today" but actually means the 24th when he posted it. He does say they are out in front of the river . It's a needle in a haystack.  I guess the only recourse is to do what Trevor has said many times, just go up and walk the river, fish and see for yourself.  I know I've learned more about when the stripers will show from looking at the NOAA buoy data and temp charts and the young-of the year- survey in the Chesapeake.  That doesn't apply to the Hudson.  I do expect some BS from the guides and shops; we'll see how it progresses. DESCHUTES. I buy stuff from shops on rivers I can spell.
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Re: The Great Lake Adventures 2015 Report page 2015/08/28 21:03:50 (permalink)
It's no worries Charlie , I seen , follow his reports and the few they are picking off . No doubt there is fish. No doubt in my mind fish are entering the river after that huge west blow most all week . When the lake gets angry like it did , something's happening :)

Char head : bite me because the fish sure aren't biting your garbage . Stick to your own nonsense threads and stay off mine .
Have a crappy salmon season !!

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Re: The Great Lake Adventures 2015 Report page 2015/08/29 13:54:26 (permalink)
Well my crew got on the board about 11 am with a brown.
Still no salmon and it looks like the church pool with boats out there .

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Re: The Great Lake Adventures 2015 Report page 2015/08/29 21:16:04 (permalink)
No salmon today for my crew . The Mae will have to wait another day .
While I don't enter any tournaments I always follow the leader boards .
I must take a large bite out of my hat !!
Looking at the Loc tournament leader board today . Many large salmon have been weighed in . 1 st place is 30# and 20 th place is 27# .. That's not to shabby . There is still a week to go .
Ps. That is lake wide and includes shore anglers ..
The thing that really struck me was the Brown trout are blowing the steelhead away .
The top steelhead is 18# the second drops to 14 and drastically down from there .
The first place brown is 14# and holds pretty steady until 12 th place then 10# at 20th. Pretty darn impressive in my view given the amount of pressure they receive on the lake .
I'd love to have another shot at a 2009 brown town season on the fly rod .
Just some more Great Lakes ramblings while I take a break from tying flies :)

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Re: The Great Lake Adventures 2015 Report page 2015/08/30 08:04:11 (permalink)
That would be great!!!!!  Haven't found many browns  at all, a few here and there, and nothing  large. I've been pretty green with envy  when I've seen someone land a big brown. That's been a rarity, too. I really haven't had the urge to go fish the  zoo aka Oak Orchard. One on the SR would be way better. Thanks and happy tying.
 
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Re: The Great Lake Adventures 2015 Report page 2015/09/03 16:12:10 (permalink)
Very Interesting Read - Lake Ontario Salmon Playing Hard to Get - [link=http://pautzke.com/salmon/lake-ontario-salmon-playing-hard-to-get/]http://pautzke.com/salmon...n-playing-hard-to-get/[/link]
Best Fish's, Fred ;)
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Re: The Great Lake Adventures 2015 Report page 2015/09/03 20:52:27 (permalink)
That should help to bolster some hopes.  Need a cold snap and some rain.
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Re: The Great Lake Adventures 2015 Report page 2015/09/03 21:10:56 (permalink)
Downriver Snob Riffles reported zilch, so I'm back to being glad to wait......
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Re: The Great Lake Adventures 2015 Report page 2015/09/03 21:22:39 (permalink)
Need some L-13 sauce & hot f'n tuna !!
I just don't know , not quite ready to throw my hands up but I hear on the net and my crew reported bumper boat fishing now and last sat which has been wide open seas all season. That stuff has me a bit feeling defeated for the season.
I will be heading out tomorrow for another Great Lake adventure , kinda different sorts . Wife will join me and we will patron a local establishment instead of the Mae . I need a bigger boat for her to bunk in comfort (;
We shall give it our duo team effort and my goal at this point is avoid the auto idiots and maybe catch a fish.
Report to follow

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Re: The Great Lake Adventures 2015 Report page 2015/09/04 10:47:03 (permalink)
Go get them Rich.  Time for all your hard work to provide you with big smiles and sore arms. Have fun.
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Re: The Great Lake Adventures 2015 Report page 2015/09/04 21:20:53 (permalink)
And so the adventure has begun. We got to town and looked for some grub. Had thoughts of jail water but thankfully was directed to the rainbow shore instead . A Great vibe here and some killer live music to boot !!
Thanks db, hope it carries over into the lake tomorrow

Ps. If anyone wishes to come up next week , we will have a last blast Great Lake adventure for sure !!
post edited by hot tuna - 2015/09/04 21:22:39

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Re: The Great Lake Adventures 2015 Report page 2015/09/05 06:59:44 (permalink)
Well we just woke up ( wife is not much for an early start ) and getting ready to head to the Mae . As I walked outside I noticed it was quite breezy and the winds were from the NNW, Humm , the weather guide said SE today and 1' or less.
Given this , it's going to be a little bumpy out there and now see they are saying 2' and less which probably means 3 footers. We shall see when we get there and how long she will like riding a roller coaster ..
Gotta run , time to go fishing. Will try a update a report throughout the day if the fishing warrents a report .

Ps: on the way into Pulaski yesterday we did see quite a few people fishing. Lots of out of state plates and even an Ohio , charcoal head must be honing his skills on some freshly baked salmon .
post edited by hot tuna - 2015/09/05 07:03:23

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Re: The Great Lake Adventures 2015 Report page 2015/09/05 09:27:35 (permalink)
Easier to sink your hooks in soft flesh, is what I always say.
I might give you a call, I'm busy, but not THAT busy. Hope you have a seasons worth in a day. Get 'em!
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Re: The Great Lake Adventures 2015 Report page 2015/09/05 11:54:59 (permalink)
HT, never tried the sauce on a lure.  In the river that would be bait, or I could get a ticket for polluting!  IF they did bite they certainly would not notice the hook!
 
Slam them today, HT. 
 
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Re: The Great Lake Adventures 2015 Report page 2015/09/05 12:22:45 (permalink)
Tuna glad you enjoyed rainbow. Kinda a little gem at the end of a dirt road. Definitely pricey, but the vibe and scenery as well as the people is definitely worth the splurge. As lucky said... Go get em!
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Re: The Great Lake Adventures 2015 Report page 2015/09/05 18:31:40 (permalink)
I think I've been there is it right on the lake north off of route 3? If that's the same place it takes a bit to get to but had good food. We stayed in one of their cabins when everyone else was booked.
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